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On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.
Rebroadcast in EST prime time hours? My god, this would be fantastically amazing!!!
So many '09-'10 nights I would stay up and watch SPL. This would certainly be a dream come true.
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On December 07 2012 01:38 Al Bundy wrote:
Why do MLG have to meddle in this? Stay away from korean eSports, please.
MLG and KeSPA have a partnership. I'm not saying that they necessarily had a part in KeSPA booting OGN from the broadcast so MLG could take that portion over but that doesn't mean that wasn't KeSPA's intentions. I have to think that KeSPA knows that they need a way to appeal to the foreign community so I sincerely doubt they would kill their only english broadcast option without a backup plan in mind.
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On December 07 2012 01:28 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:23 Solarsail wrote:On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication? MLG  How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence? The evidence is right here though. The tweet, the "working on it" and the fact that OGN have been booted from Proleague is all the evidence we need.
Lmao @ your evidence. You take the statement "we're working on it" as evidence that they were already conspiring? Or as evidence that they're covering something up? Um no. Smarten up.
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So and now just calm down guys and lets see what they've got for us.  I honestly dont think that KeSPA is that dumb to ignore the complete western fanbase.
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On December 07 2012 01:44 lemonbone wrote:
The only problem is do kespa allow restream.
If there is no official english option, they kind of have to to let their event reach the rest of the world. That might be ideal in this situation, as I'm not entirely sure MLG is equipped to handle this on their own.
If restreams get shutdown, we can always just watch the korean stream. It's what we did in the past, we'll manage until this is all sorted out next season.
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Lol it'll be just like when I was in college, only I won't be able to stay up to watch the korean broadcast anymore
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wow, this is fucked up...I was going to actually watch proleague this season.
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On December 07 2012 01:46 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:28 redFF wrote:On December 07 2012 01:23 Solarsail wrote:On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication? MLG How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence? The evidence is right here though. The tweet, the "working on it" and the fact that OGN have been booted from Proleague is all the evidence we need. Lmao @ your evidence. You take the statement "we're working on it" as evidence that they were already conspiring? Or as evidence that they're covering something up? Um no. Smarten up.
They've clearly been in talks with Kespa lol...
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MLG working on it? Great, now we have to pay 100$ to watch.
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I watched BW ProLeague in Korean the whole time (didn't even know there were English streams). But seriously KeSPA, stop being so stubborn.
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On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples.
Its just that they think you lie.
Reason + Show Spoiler +MLG & Kespa exclusives deals in the past You comments on the PPV model + your price politics in the past + fake viewer numbers for every event = your word is worth nothing...
I personal dont care who streams it tho. + Show Spoiler +I will watch restreams with commentators muted anyway...
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I hope OGN ends up still doing it cause I can't imagine the communication fiasco in trying to commentate live across the world in the middle of the night. God forbid any problems happen and the commentators are stuck with thumbs up their asses not knowing wtf is going on because MLG isn't in the OGN studio to find out immediately.
Really, I don't care who broadcasts it but it's just so much more convenient to let OGN do it's thing with English live and have MLG just rebroadcast for US times. Maybe that was the original intention and things got screwed up in translation or something.
Also what dreadful timing, so fucking stupid.
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Kespa strikes again. I'm sure some level of political defense will appear to uphold their decision for kespa supporters to spew but ultimately kespa screwing over parties not named kespa. Nothing new here. Players, gom, mlg, and now ogn. Gg
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On December 07 2012 01:52 Arnstein wrote:
MLG working on it? Great, now we have to pay 100$ to watch.
Yea, this is something I'm worried about as well.
MLG "working on it" doesn't mean much to me because I always assume they'll go with a PPV model like so much of their other programming.
I REALLY, REALLY hope they don't jump on trying to capitalize on this, but I don't really blame them if they go with PPV for the event.
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I don't want a MLG english stream . I want DoA !
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I can't believe how many of you don't care. KeSPA is basically trying to become the center of the SC2 world when a ton of its viewership doesn't even come from its own country. Maybe that will change with the apparent death of BW, but I don't care. I'm done with this fuckery and foolishness. Fuck KeSPA. And if MLG, or whoever may takes up the English broadcast starts charging to stream as PPV, then fuck them too.
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Personally, since I would have spent $60+ on a GSTL ticket if Liquid or EG were in that, I'd be prepared to spend that for MLG-cast VODs with good commentators.
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Well, I'd be pretty down with Axslav doing some Proleague commentary. But this does seem somewhat strange.
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YAYAYAYYAYYAYYYYYYY SAYYLEEE FOR OSL! :D
wish it was bw... but we take what we can get amirite?
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On December 07 2012 01:26 phyre112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:11 VManOfMana wrote:On December 07 2012 01:00 Proseat wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Well, how long have you been doing so through your partnership with KeSPA really? When I read that MLGLee tweet two days ago, I thought to myself, "Why would he tweet that? OGN are already doing it." Random and strange at best. Now suddenly KeSPA boots OGN and their English broadcasting team around DoA that have been preparing for broadcasting Proleague for quite a while now. I hope this wasn't MLG putting that idea in KeSPA's heads to be able to get a piece of the cake. I hope you guys understand that the magic of Proleague is not just the matches, but the studio atmosphere, how the players and teams will react, and so on. Casting from replays hours later just doesn't cut it. If MLG wants to get involved, work with OGN and Team DoA, as they will be able to be present in the studio. That way all their preparation will also not be for naught. The broadcasts rights of Proleague are owned by KeSPA, not OGN. MLG is doing the right thing. You know what I miss? A TL not ruined by misinformation fueled by rage. That was never TL. KeSPA has been hated, pitchfork, torch, boycott and all, for killing eSports since before killing eSports was a thing. I can't remember a time where the majority of TL was in support of Kespa, and I've been hanging around here for ~5 years now.
Five years ago it was about reading translated Korean netizen reactions and joke about it. TL was about having having fun out of the rage, and certainly was not the source of the rage.
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