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On December 07 2012 01:11 VManOfMana wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:00 Proseat wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Well, how long have you been doing so through your partnership with KeSPA really? When I read that MLGLee tweet two days ago, I thought to myself, "Why would he tweet that? OGN are already doing it." Random and strange at best. Now suddenly KeSPA boots OGN and their English broadcasting team around DoA that have been preparing for broadcasting Proleague for quite a while now. I hope this wasn't MLG putting that idea in KeSPA's heads to be able to get a piece of the cake. I hope you guys understand that the magic of Proleague is not just the matches, but the studio atmosphere, how the players and teams will react, and so on. Casting from replays hours later just doesn't cut it. If MLG wants to get involved, work with OGN and Team DoA, as they will be able to be present in the studio. That way all their preparation will also not be for naught. The broadcasts rights of Proleague are owned by KeSPA, not OGN. MLG is doing the right thing. You know what I miss? A TL not ruined by misinformation fueled by rage.
That was never TL. KeSPA has been hated, pitchfork, torch, boycott and all, for killing eSports since before killing eSports was a thing. I can't remember a time where the majority of TL was in support of Kespa, and I've been hanging around here for ~5 years now.
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There is bound to be an english stream. After all, having EG-TL was pretty much solely for getting more viewers (foreign). And if you have foreign viewers, you probably should have a foreign (english) stream for it.
But the whole scenario sounds very Kespa. I might watch the KR streams if I come across it, but probably won't go out of my way to see any matches now.
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On December 07 2012 01:23 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication? MLG  How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence?
The evidence is right here though. The tweet, the "working on it" and the fact that OGN have been booted from Proleague is all the evidence we need.
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fuck you kespa, just stop annoying the community
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so they fire Moletrap, and then just cancel english broadcasts altogether? smart business decision, NOT
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Does this mean the esportstv channel on youtube will have PL again? It was always up so fast :D, or possibly the return of Nevake  ?
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Doa, I feel for you man
To work so hard for you dream and to see it crushed like that due to some stupid corporation bullshit
That must be devastating
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Man, what the hell is going on over in Korea? I really can't believe that this wasn't all sorted out months in advance.
If MLG does pick up the English stream, who is going to cast it? They can't just go "Oh, we'll just call up Day9 and Apollo, it'll be fine." Their system is set up for a few big events a year, not a very long tournament that is going to go on for months.
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On December 06 2012 22:09 Fenrax wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gcAti.jpg) User was temp banned for this post.
That was honestly the first thing that popped in my mind. 
On topic: Kespa still sucks.
Of topic again: Is it possible for me to find out why the hell fenrax was banned for this!?
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On December 07 2012 01:28 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:23 Solarsail wrote:On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication? MLG How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence? The evidence is right here though. The tweet, the "working on it" and the fact that OGN have been booted from Proleague is all the evidence we need.
No, moron, it isn't all the evidence we need. Jesus, I hope you are never selected for jury duty.
This situation sucks enough without having a bunch of idiot conspiracy theorists mucking up the thread with baseless finger-pointing and blame games. Can you all try to at least do something productive with all that teenage angst? Send KeSPA an e-mail, or something. It might not have any effect, but it sure as hell would be more likely to change things than word-vomit on TL.
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Im going to agree that this is just a move to eventually get mlg to have the english cast
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Why do MLG have to meddle in this? Stay away from korean eSports, please.
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On December 07 2012 01:12 Lightspeaker wrote:
Really, really stupid screw up by KesPA here.
Personal view: Proleague was one of the biggest BW tournaments. But as far as SC2 goes it doesn't have a history. It hasn't established itself yet. Regardless of its BW history it isn't a "must see" competition for SC2 at present. The current biggest SC2 tournaments are the GSL and GSTL. So their direct competitor is basically the GSTL; and the GSTL is what they are going to be measured against.
Compare and contrast...GSTL production quality with how they're approaching Proleague here...
If KesPA wants Proleague SC2 to be a success THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE DOING THIS KIND OF THING CONSTANTLY. They NEED a English broadcast for the international audience. They NEED to be seen to be putting on a high quality entertainment production. Most importantly they NEED to stop appearing like they're trying to screw people over because it pisses people off. And doing that is going to make people just not bother watching.
For anyone who doubts that Proleague could become marginalized in an SC2 world; all you have to do is see how WCG has fallen by the wayside as a major tournament.
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On December 07 2012 01:23 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication? MLG How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence?
Dude it's the internet. There's no gravity here. People can jump wherever they want
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Whatever the situation may be, to do it with so little warning is beyond unprofessional. I'm so sorry for Doa and wish him some happy news to make up for this.
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This is truly awful. This is really sad for Doa as well. I remember meeting him at IPL TAC in SF and he was so looking forward to this (and rightfully so). Fucking Kespa -_-.
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On December 07 2012 01:38 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:12 Lightspeaker wrote:
Really, really stupid screw up by KesPA here.
Personal view: Proleague was one of the biggest BW tournaments. But as far as SC2 goes it doesn't have a history. It hasn't established itself yet. Regardless of its BW history it isn't a "must see" competition for SC2 at present. The current biggest SC2 tournaments are the GSL and GSTL. So their direct competitor is basically the GSTL; and the GSTL is what they are going to be measured against.
Compare and contrast...GSTL production quality with how they're approaching Proleague here...
If KesPA wants Proleague SC2 to be a success THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE DOING THIS KIND OF THING CONSTANTLY. They NEED a English broadcast for the international audience. They NEED to be seen to be putting on a high quality entertainment production. Most importantly they NEED to stop appearing like they're trying to screw people over because it pisses people off. And doing that is going to make people just not bother watching. For anyone who doubts that Proleague could become marginalized in an SC2 world; all you have to do is see how WCG has fallen by the wayside as a major tournament.
Most of WCG's laurels rested on the fact that it was the only major BW event for foreigners, bringing in a lot of other games to fill time while the 3 korean representatives battled to see what order they would place on the podium. It was bound to falter once more foreign events started up with SC2, especially once Blizzard stole their only reason for existing.
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I'm really interested in what the thoughts of this are to EG and TL, cause without an english broadcast I don't think they'll be getting the attention they were hoping for when they decided to devote themselves to this year long league.
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On December 07 2012 01:38 Al Bundy wrote:
Why do MLG have to meddle in this? Stay away from korean eSports, please.
Why are some of you people so desperately trying to paint MLG as the bad guys, when they obviously are trying to help out here?
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The only problem is do kespa allow restream.
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