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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2012 16:06 GMT
#361
MLG are going to end up streaming this and be hailed as the saviors of PL english broadcast...
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
December 06 2012 16:06 GMT
#362
Feels like bunch of unprofessionals trying to runm the show
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 06 2012 16:08 GMT
#363
On December 07 2012 00:55 redFF wrote:
MLG has been in talks with Kespa about this for a while, as the tweet shows. It's clear that they are responsible for this along with Kespa, and are lined up to replace OGN for the English cast.

Some of the posts in this thread are shady.



You're speaking with certainty about something you have insufficient information about. Your statement contains nothing but a leap of logic founded on a cynical assumption. It's entirely possible that KeSPA told MLG there would be no other English cast, or that MLG's cast would only be on weekdays since there was already an agreement in place with OGN for OGN to only be covering weekends.
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 16:09:05
December 06 2012 16:08 GMT
#364
On December 07 2012 00:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:56 emythrel wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago



I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples.


I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now.


Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one....


It's just about the wording here. The term "streaming" is usually meant as "live streaming".


Not in my idiolect. When I want to find a movie or tv show online I do a search with the word 'stream' in it. And it works. No presumption of live content.
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 16:09:49
December 06 2012 16:08 GMT
#365
Jaedong is playing on saturday his first game as EG... funny world
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
December 06 2012 16:11 GMT
#366
On December 07 2012 01:00 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Well, how long have you been doing so through your partnership with KeSPA really?

When I read that MLGLee tweet two days ago, I thought to myself, "Why would he tweet that? OGN are already doing it." Random and strange at best.

Now suddenly KeSPA boots OGN and their English broadcasting team around DoA that have been preparing for broadcasting Proleague for quite a while now. I hope this wasn't MLG putting that idea in KeSPA's heads to be able to get a piece of the cake. I hope you guys understand that the magic of Proleague is not just the matches, but the studio atmosphere, how the players and teams will react, and so on. Casting from replays hours later just doesn't cut it.

If MLG wants to get involved, work with OGN and Team DoA, as they will be able to be present in the studio. That way all their preparation will also not be for naught.



The broadcasts rights of Proleague are owned by KeSPA, not OGN. MLG is doing the right thing.

You know what I miss? A TL not ruined by misinformation fueled by rage.
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 06 2012 16:12 GMT
#367
Really, really stupid screw up by KesPA here.


Personal view: Proleague was one of the biggest BW tournaments. But as far as SC2 goes it doesn't have a history. It hasn't established itself yet. Regardless of its BW history it isn't a "must see" competition for SC2 at present. The current biggest SC2 tournaments are the GSL and GSTL. So their direct competitor is basically the GSTL; and the GSTL is what they are going to be measured against.

Compare and contrast...GSTL production quality with how they're approaching Proleague here...

If KesPA wants Proleague SC2 to be a success THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE DOING THIS KIND OF THING CONSTANTLY. They NEED a English broadcast for the international audience. They NEED to be seen to be putting on a high quality entertainment production. Most importantly they NEED to stop appearing like they're trying to screw people over because it pisses people off. And doing that is going to make people just not bother watching.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
December 06 2012 16:13 GMT
#368
On December 07 2012 01:06 redFF wrote:
MLG are going to end up streaming this and be hailed as the saviors of PL english broadcast...

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
December 06 2012 16:14 GMT
#369
Money grubbing MLG and Kepsa working together and screwing other people over. Surprise...
Gowa
Profile Joined October 2010
France133 Posts
December 06 2012 16:15 GMT
#370
EG-TL vs kt is going to be the most rebroadcasted match of history ^^
and to be honest, I'd rather watch a rebroadcast anyway
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
December 06 2012 16:16 GMT
#371
Assuming there's someone who's willing to rebroadcast, I actually enjoy that more than most english casts. The news is shitty, for sure, but more for what it implies than the actual damage done. I don't think it'll impact my viewer experience at all.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 06 2012 16:16 GMT
#372
On December 07 2012 01:06 redFF wrote:
MLG are going to end up streaming this and be hailed as the saviors of PL english broadcast...

Doubt it. Since they will just stream it 12h+ after the games were played. They might even revoke the sc2 spoiler rule due to this rebroadcast by MLG.

I want my PL fill before i go to work.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
December 06 2012 16:16 GMT
#373
--- Nuked ---
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
December 06 2012 16:17 GMT
#374
That's sad, though people will rebroadcast for sure. I look forward to seeing new casters showing up casting OGN.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
OrD_SC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States247 Posts
December 06 2012 16:21 GMT
#375
Disappointing news, and this is likely just one more step in Kespa's power-play. Thank you for sharing with such a level-head Doa.
Baldie disapproved of my last status, TT
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
December 06 2012 16:22 GMT
#376
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.


So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication?

MLG
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
December 06 2012 16:23 GMT
#377
On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.


So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication?

MLG


How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence?
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
December 06 2012 16:25 GMT
#378
Damn, they'd make so much money just by putting together a quick english broadcast. So dumb.
Try another route paperboy.
DeathSquire36
Profile Joined June 2011
United States167 Posts
December 06 2012 16:25 GMT
#379
On December 07 2012 01:23 Solarsail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 01:22 Oreo7 wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.


So you guys screwed OGN + Doa, + possibly the whole foreign community so that you could get broadcast rights? Is that the implication?

MLG


How can you jump to that conclusion without evidence?

Welcome to today's Starcraft community. All speculation, no facts, but they're always right.
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
December 06 2012 16:25 GMT
#380
Well, back to Korean commentaries for Proleague it is. I missed the screaming of three different people at once. In a language I don't understand :D
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