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On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me
he literally just explained that tweet and you're doubting him? Why would kespa kick out their long term partner in OGN for MLG? Answer, they wouldn't.
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MLG has been in talks with Kespa about this for a while, as the tweet shows. It's clear that they are responsible for this along with Kespa, and are lined up to replace OGN for the English cast.
Some of the posts in this thread are shady.
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Austria24422 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:53 emythrel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945"streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me he literally just explained that tweet and you're doubting him? Why would kespa kick out their long term partner in OGN for MLG? Answer, they wouldn't.
For moneyzzzzz and more international recognition. I wouldn't put it beyond KeSPA, whether or not MLG was intentionally involved with this I can't say. Could very well be the reason why KeSPA did what they did though without MLG actually plotting anything at all.
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Sayle ftw, we need you now 
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Well I know what I WONT be watching now. Only if there's a really good match will I watch this now. I refuse to support an organization who doesn't give a damn about the foreign audience. You can't sit here and tell me Kespa is good for esports, you just can't. If MLG goes the English stream, fine, but otherwise, I'm out. Yes I am mad about this. 
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On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945 I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples. I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now.
Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one....
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Is there any way for us non-Korean fans to express our displeasure at Kespa's involvement resulting in no English streams?
If so, we should be up in arms petitioning for them to change this.
They added a foreign team to increase non-Korean viewers.... this is practically taking 1 step forward, 3 steps backward
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Esports authorities honestly have to do something about this.....MLG and GOM must get them to allow english streams. Those are the only names i can think of lol but its true, something HAS to be done
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Well, as long as there is some form of English casted stream, I am content.
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Austria24422 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:56 emythrel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945 I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples. I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now. Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one....
It's just about the wording here. The term "streaming" is usually meant as "live streaming".
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Presumably best proleague season ever aproaching..... Aaaand KeSPA mess it up again. Im still cheering for eg-tl and kt though, I always watched proleague on korean streams, so it wont be any diferent for me. I enjoy korean broadcast. Hope english stream is up soon for the most new foreigners watching proleague as they may not be used to watch it in korean, understanding nothing but emotions haha ha
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I suppose that now OGN cast in Korean and MLG in english.
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Thanks MLG_Adam. Even if you don't get it sorted out it's great that you're keeping us updated.
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I for one support KeSPA.
I feel that part of the reasons BW was so superior to SC2 on the esports side is because of KeSPA, and I can reasonably say that most English casters have yet to achieve the consistent quality level of Korean casts, so I personally enjoy them more.
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On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.
Well, how long have you been doing so through your partnership with KeSPA really?
When I read that MLGLee tweet two days ago, I thought to myself, "Why would he tweet that? OGN are already doing it." Random and strange at best.
Now suddenly KeSPA boots OGN and their English broadcasting team around DoA that have been preparing for broadcasting Proleague for quite a while now. I hope this wasn't MLG putting that idea in KeSPA's heads to be able to get a piece of the cake. I hope you guys understand that the magic of Proleague is not just the matches, but the studio atmosphere, how the players and teams will react, and so on. Casting from replays hours later just doesn't cut it.
If MLG wants to get involved, work with OGN and Team DoA, as they will be able to be present in the studio. That way all their preparation will also not be for naught.
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On December 07 2012 00:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:56 emythrel wrote:On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945 I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples. I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now. Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one.... It's just about the wording here. The term "streaming" is usually meant as "live streaming".
Someone hasn't been on the internet very long...
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sorry Doa. For what its worth I've been loving the job you guys have done with the LoL broadcast. Its 10x better than it was last season.
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While I like the idea of a rebroadcast at EST prime time, that means I can't watch it live because KESPA are being douchebags, and I have to watch an event later in the day after I'll probably be spoiled on the TL main page (which I've never minded before, but still). For a company that allowed EG-TL into the league, this is pretty fucking stupid. You've instantly lost a chunk of your viewing base the minute you cut out the English cast. Not everyone wants to watch Korean casters yelling in a language we don't understand.
And now I'm supposed to trust that MLG will keep the Proleague stream free. Just like we could trust OGN and Kespa, right?
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On December 06 2012 21:54 mjuuy wrote:
It's ok.
Always looking for korean streams for SC2 anyway, so won't effect me..
Cool story bro, too bad he didnt write that only for you though
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On December 07 2012 00:53 emythrel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys. Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away? Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out. I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now. this is news to you now? I don't think so MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945"streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me he literally just explained that tweet and you're doubting him? Why would kespa kick out their long term partner in OGN for MLG? Answer, they wouldn't.
hahaha
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