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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 06 2012 15:53 GMT
#341
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago



"streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me


he literally just explained that tweet and you're doubting him? Why would kespa kick out their long term partner in OGN for MLG? Answer, they wouldn't.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2012 15:55 GMT
#342
MLG has been in talks with Kespa about this for a while, as the tweet shows. It's clear that they are responsible for this along with Kespa, and are lined up to replace OGN for the English cast.

Some of the posts in this thread are shady.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 15:56:18
December 06 2012 15:55 GMT
#343
On December 07 2012 00:53 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago

https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945

"streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me


he literally just explained that tweet and you're doubting him? Why would kespa kick out their long term partner in OGN for MLG? Answer, they wouldn't.


For moneyzzzzz and more international recognition. I wouldn't put it beyond KeSPA, whether or not MLG was intentionally involved with this I can't say. Could very well be the reason why KeSPA did what they did though without MLG actually plotting anything at all.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
December 06 2012 15:55 GMT
#344
Sayle ftw, we need you now
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 15:56:42
December 06 2012 15:55 GMT
#345
Well I know what I WONT be watching now. Only if there's a really good match will I watch this now. I refuse to support an organization who doesn't give a damn about the foreign audience. You can't sit here and tell me Kespa is good for esports, you just can't. If MLG goes the English stream, fine, but otherwise, I'm out. Yes I am mad about this.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#346
On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago

https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945


I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples.


I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now.


Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one....
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
December 06 2012 15:56 GMT
#347
Is there any way for us non-Korean fans to express our displeasure at Kespa's involvement resulting in no English streams?

If so, we should be up in arms petitioning for them to change this.

They added a foreign team to increase non-Korean viewers.... this is practically taking 1 step forward, 3 steps backward
Skiblet
Profile Joined August 2011
South Africa206 Posts
December 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#348
Esports authorities honestly have to do something about this.....MLG and GOM must get them to allow english streams. Those are the only names i can think of lol but its true, something HAS to be done
"Just fucking kill 'em" Day[9]
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
December 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#349
Well, as long as there is some form of English casted stream, I am content.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 06 2012 15:57 GMT
#350
On December 07 2012 00:56 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago

https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945


I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples.


I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now.


Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one....


It's just about the wording here. The term "streaming" is usually meant as "live streaming".
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
December 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#351
Presumably best proleague season ever aproaching..... Aaaand KeSPA mess it up again. Im still cheering for eg-tl and kt though, I always watched proleague on korean streams, so it wont be any diferent for me. I enjoy korean broadcast. Hope english stream is up soon for the most new foreigners watching proleague as they may not be used to watch it in korean, understanding nothing but emotions haha ha
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
December 06 2012 15:59 GMT
#352
I suppose that now OGN cast in Korean and MLG in english.
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
December 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#353
Thanks MLG_Adam. Even if you don't get it sorted out it's great that you're keeping us updated.
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 16:01:10
December 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#354
I for one support KeSPA.

I feel that part of the reasons BW was so superior to SC2 on the esports side is because of KeSPA, and I can reasonably say that most English casters have yet to achieve the consistent quality level of Korean casts, so I personally enjoy them more.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#355
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Well, how long have you been doing so through your partnership with KeSPA really?

When I read that MLGLee tweet two days ago, I thought to myself, "Why would he tweet that? OGN are already doing it." Random and strange at best.

Now suddenly KeSPA boots OGN and their English broadcasting team around DoA that have been preparing for broadcasting Proleague for quite a while now. I hope this wasn't MLG putting that idea in KeSPA's heads to be able to get a piece of the cake. I hope you guys understand that the magic of Proleague is not just the matches, but the studio atmosphere, how the players and teams will react, and so on. Casting from replays hours later just doesn't cut it.

If MLG wants to get involved, work with OGN and Team DoA, as they will be able to be present in the studio. That way all their preparation will also not be for naught.

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
December 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#356
On December 07 2012 00:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:56 emythrel wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:53 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:50 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago

https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945


I'm guessing you're not reading what I wrote. We wanted to have nightly content during US prime time hours that leveraged Pro League matches. This is not apples to apples.


I did read, "streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me. And it seems weird to have it casted in English by 2 different organisations. But well, I can only take your words for now.


Why is that weird? In the UK premiership football is broadcast live by Sky Sports and then shown in highlights by BBC later that night. Its actually quite common for sports to be broadcast live by one organisation and then rebroadcast by another one....


It's just about the wording here. The term "streaming" is usually meant as "live streaming".

Someone hasn't been on the internet very long...
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
December 06 2012 16:02 GMT
#357
sorry Doa. For what its worth I've been loving the job you guys have done with the LoL broadcast. Its 10x better than it was last season.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
December 06 2012 16:02 GMT
#358
While I like the idea of a rebroadcast at EST prime time, that means I can't watch it live because KESPA are being douchebags, and I have to watch an event later in the day after I'll probably be spoiled on the TL main page (which I've never minded before, but still). For a company that allowed EG-TL into the league, this is pretty fucking stupid. You've instantly lost a chunk of your viewing base the minute you cut out the English cast. Not everyone wants to watch Korean casters yelling in a language we don't understand.

And now I'm supposed to trust that MLG will keep the Proleague stream free. Just like we could trust OGN and Kespa, right?
RaelSan
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium223 Posts
December 06 2012 16:02 GMT
#359
On December 06 2012 21:54 mjuuy wrote:
It's ok.

Always looking for korean streams for SC2 anyway, so won't effect me..


Cool story bro, too bad he didnt write that only for you though
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2012 16:04 GMT
#360
On December 07 2012 00:53 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:49 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:44 00Visor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:41 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 00:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
Working on it guys.

Good stuff. Any way to throw money at you guys right away?

Cmon don't get fooled. MLG asked on twitter 2 days ago if they should cast proleague. They are not stepping in as the saviours now, they were in contact with KeSPA back then and may have caused OGN to get kicked out.


I can tell you right now we never caused anyone to get kicked out. This is news to us as well. We wanted to cast Pro League as a rebroadcast in EST prime time hours, we didn't know there would be no English cast. Again, we're working on it now.


this is news to you now? I don't think so
MLGLee tweeted this 2 days ago

https://twitter.com/MLGLee/status/276069676562386945

"streamed" doesnt sound like rebroadcast to me


he literally just explained that tweet and you're doubting him? Why would kespa kick out their long term partner in OGN for MLG? Answer, they wouldn't.

hahaha

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