On December 05 2012 09:11 Spiffeh wrote:
Damn. Hopefully SlayerS can get MaximumBlack. GL to all involved.
Damn. Hopefully SlayerS can get MaximumBlack. GL to all involved.
?
Slayers disbanded like a month ago.
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FeyverN
United States104 Posts
On December 05 2012 09:11 Spiffeh wrote: Damn. Hopefully SlayerS can get MaximumBlack. GL to all involved. ? Slayers disbanded like a month ago. | ||
Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:09 FeyverN wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 09:11 Spiffeh wrote: Damn. Hopefully SlayerS can get MaximumBlack. GL to all involved. ? Slayers disbanded like a month ago. MaximusBlack will probably return to his ex team CheckSix. | ||
Fluid
Canada136 Posts
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Ldawg
United States328 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:13 Ryps wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 10:09 FeyverN wrote: On December 05 2012 09:11 Spiffeh wrote: Damn. Hopefully SlayerS can get MaximumBlack. GL to all involved. ? Slayers disbanded like a month ago. MaximusBlack will probably return to his ex team CheckSix. Well-played sir, well-played. | ||
AC3
Canada337 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:09 Fluid wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 10:02 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 09:59 Fluid wrote: On December 05 2012 09:57 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 09:49 Fluid wrote: How is this possible? Weren't they like the 2nd biggest team in NA? They even had a huge team house and everything. And their players were doing pretty good... Damn, this is so depressing... Because they were apparently 100% reliant on investor funding... It doesn't really matter much if you have a ton of non-guaranteed money that isn't really yours. Everyone likes to shit on EG, but in the end they are one of the few foreign teams, along with Liquid that can actually offer stable conditions for players. I think Quantic just got too big for it's own good but I guess no one really knows except those directly involved. But then how did they get the money to use that huge team house? Did the ceo just blindly accept to rent a huge house without knowing if their investors would pay them the next month? What kind of business rationale is that? By the sound of things that's exactly what happened... Are you really surprised by this point though? We've seen numerous teams fail, most of them were headed by guys with little to no business experience or education. Lots of people jumped on the opportunities that SC2 presented based on ambition alone. SC2 bubble has burst and the NA scene is especially weak on a global scale. It's true that the team is only ~1 year old, but they had some big names join them (Sase,Stc,Nani,etc...). You'd think that would make investors more relaxed since they are guaranteed advertisement in big tournaments. It still feels suspicious that such a big team with very good players can vanish instantly. Well it all depends on the management of the organization. Clearly in this case the management had no contingent plan or money of it's own. Like I said earlier, it's impossible to say with certainty what went wrong, but it seems that Quantic tried to take on too many projects and never saved/made any money. They aggressively expanded to take on ALL of Vile, a number of Korean players, Decemvre, Maximus Black and Maddelisk.... They had a massive roster, mostly players who never had a chance of placing at an event. Not really the smartest way to build a team. | ||
GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
![]() Hoping Sase, StC, Illusion, Hawk, and Apocalypse get new homes at least ![]() | ||
FeyverN
United States104 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:13 Ryps wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 10:09 FeyverN wrote: On December 05 2012 09:11 Spiffeh wrote: Damn. Hopefully SlayerS can get MaximumBlack. GL to all involved. ? Slayers disbanded like a month ago. MaximusBlack will probably return to his ex team CheckSix. MaximusBlack is a curse i tell you! Every team he joins disbands. | ||
dannystarcraft
United States179 Posts
![]() Sorry to see the team go down though :/ | ||
Fluid
Canada136 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:21 SupLilSon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 10:09 Fluid wrote: On December 05 2012 10:02 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 09:59 Fluid wrote: On December 05 2012 09:57 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 09:49 Fluid wrote: How is this possible? Weren't they like the 2nd biggest team in NA? They even had a huge team house and everything. And their players were doing pretty good... Damn, this is so depressing... Because they were apparently 100% reliant on investor funding... It doesn't really matter much if you have a ton of non-guaranteed money that isn't really yours. Everyone likes to shit on EG, but in the end they are one of the few foreign teams, along with Liquid that can actually offer stable conditions for players. I think Quantic just got too big for it's own good but I guess no one really knows except those directly involved. But then how did they get the money to use that huge team house? Did the ceo just blindly accept to rent a huge house without knowing if their investors would pay them the next month? What kind of business rationale is that? By the sound of things that's exactly what happened... Are you really surprised by this point though? We've seen numerous teams fail, most of them were headed by guys with little to no business experience or education. Lots of people jumped on the opportunities that SC2 presented based on ambition alone. SC2 bubble has burst and the NA scene is especially weak on a global scale. It's true that the team is only ~1 year old, but they had some big names join them (Sase,Stc,Nani,etc...). You'd think that would make investors more relaxed since they are guaranteed advertisement in big tournaments. It still feels suspicious that such a big team with very good players can vanish instantly. Well it all depends on the management of the organization. Clearly in this case the management had no contingent plan or money of it's own. Like I said earlier, it's impossible to say with certainty what went wrong, but it seems that Quantic tried to take on too many projects and never saved/made any money. They aggressively expanded to take on ALL of Vile, a number of Korean players, Decemvre, Maximus Black and Maddelisk.... They had a massive roster, mostly players who never had a chance of placing at an event. Not really the smartest way to build a team. But most progaming teams are like this too, right? I mean they have their A-team which is the players that they send to win tourneys and their B-team which are like "pros-in-training", which are just really good players who are there to learn from the actual pros and maybe become pro themselves after 1 year or so. | ||
LTY
United States223 Posts
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DeathDyingDoomKiller
Canada91 Posts
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ProteiNSheikH
South Africa49 Posts
Sad day, good luck everyone! | ||
AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
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-ForeverAlone-
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
Sad news but this is business. You make bad decisions, you fail. | ||
Zenniv
United States545 Posts
Very very surprised.... | ||
rhs408
United States904 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:27 LTY wrote: what?? why.. investors pulled their funding - Quantic was not making any money for them in the present nor did they foresee them making any money for them in the future. Can't keep injecting non-stop money into a business that is making zero profit (unless your name is Sundance) | ||
Cricketer12
United States13965 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On December 05 2012 10:25 Fluid wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 10:21 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 10:09 Fluid wrote: On December 05 2012 10:02 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 09:59 Fluid wrote: On December 05 2012 09:57 SupLilSon wrote: On December 05 2012 09:49 Fluid wrote: How is this possible? Weren't they like the 2nd biggest team in NA? They even had a huge team house and everything. And their players were doing pretty good... Damn, this is so depressing... Because they were apparently 100% reliant on investor funding... It doesn't really matter much if you have a ton of non-guaranteed money that isn't really yours. Everyone likes to shit on EG, but in the end they are one of the few foreign teams, along with Liquid that can actually offer stable conditions for players. I think Quantic just got too big for it's own good but I guess no one really knows except those directly involved. But then how did they get the money to use that huge team house? Did the ceo just blindly accept to rent a huge house without knowing if their investors would pay them the next month? What kind of business rationale is that? By the sound of things that's exactly what happened... Are you really surprised by this point though? We've seen numerous teams fail, most of them were headed by guys with little to no business experience or education. Lots of people jumped on the opportunities that SC2 presented based on ambition alone. SC2 bubble has burst and the NA scene is especially weak on a global scale. It's true that the team is only ~1 year old, but they had some big names join them (Sase,Stc,Nani,etc...). You'd think that would make investors more relaxed since they are guaranteed advertisement in big tournaments. It still feels suspicious that such a big team with very good players can vanish instantly. Well it all depends on the management of the organization. Clearly in this case the management had no contingent plan or money of it's own. Like I said earlier, it's impossible to say with certainty what went wrong, but it seems that Quantic tried to take on too many projects and never saved/made any money. They aggressively expanded to take on ALL of Vile, a number of Korean players, Decemvre, Maximus Black and Maddelisk.... They had a massive roster, mostly players who never had a chance of placing at an event. Not really the smartest way to build a team. But most progaming teams are like this too, right? I mean they have their A-team which is the players that they send to win tourneys and their B-team which are like "pros-in-training", which are just really good players who are there to learn from the actual pros and maybe become pro themselves after 1 year or so. Yea but you need to start off smaller. You can't have like 3 players who can potentially place at an event and 30 that can barely make GM league. | ||
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