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On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser
You know Anna doesn't run EG, right? She's a content producer. She's involved in the team because Geoff is.
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On December 05 2012 09:31 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser You know Anna doesn't run EG, right? She's a content producer. She's involved in the team because Geoff is.
Seriously somebody really thought EG was RUN by Anna....???
wow
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On December 05 2012 09:30 speknek wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser Wow, this one is hard, troll or misinformed?
I refuse to believe anyone is THAT fundamentally stupid. There's too much funny shit in that post for it to not be a bad troll.
Condolences to all the players affected by this. I hope you can get sorted soon. Bad timing 
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On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media).
Yeah. I watch a lot of SC2 and I can tell you some of the sponsors of few teams. EG (Steelseries, Intel, Monster, Raidcall, Bigfootnetworks, Kingston), Teamliquid (The Little App Factory, Razer, twitch), complexity (Gamma labs, Creative Soundblaster, PNY, Origin), IM (LG, Googims), Startale (Red Bull), TSL (Handsome Nerd), Acer (Acer), Naniwa (Mionix), WhiteRa (TT esports). ROOT has twitch I think and Dignitas might have Intel. I don't know any other sponsor for a team and I certainly would not have been able to tell you a single sponsor of Quantic before they disbanded.
I'm based in North America so that probably creates a bias which causes me to know more NA team sponsors than EU sponsors. But still, if players don't pimp out their sponsors like crazy (EG, while I dislike the team, does a fantastic job at this) then I can only see more teams folding like Quantic.
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On December 05 2012 09:31 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser You know Anna doesn't run EG, right? She's a content producer. She's involved in the team because Geoff is.
What sort of content does she produce?
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Complety unexpected to me, sad day :/
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On December 05 2012 09:35 ChrysaliS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:31 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser You know Anna doesn't run EG, right? She's a content producer. She's involved in the team because Geoff is. What sort of content does she produce?
yea pretty sure she's like House Administrator or something
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So according to this thread it seems Quantic lost to RoX @ EG Master's Cup
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On December 05 2012 09:33 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:31 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser You know Anna doesn't run EG, right? She's a content producer. She's involved in the team because Geoff is. Seriously somebody really thought EG was RUN by Anna....??? wow
The funny part was he was typing like he was educating us on how EG is run.
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Such a shame, I remember their co-operation with... was it IM-MVP's team? It was definitely a good Korean team.
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On December 05 2012 09:35 ChrysaliS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:31 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser You know Anna doesn't run EG, right? She's a content producer. She's involved in the team because Geoff is. What sort of content does she produce?
Shes involved in most of the video content they put out. Everything from unburrowed to hype videos like the stephano one.
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dam whos going to pay them 50 bucks a month to play now
User was warned for this post
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On December 05 2012 09:18 Melaine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 09:14 Cattlecruiser wrote:On December 05 2012 08:47 BlackVelvet wrote:On December 05 2012 08:27 Zzoram wrote:
Not a surprise.
I still don't know who the sponsors of Quantic Gaming were.
The only teams I know the sponsors of are Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid among foreign teams.
I know StarTale and LG-IM's main sponsors too.
It's no wonder that sponsors are realizing their SC2 teams aren't worth the money when their players can't be bothered to remember to say 3 words at the end of every interview. Yeah. Makes me wonder if EG is too much at the center of things in eSports that other teams (such as Quantic) fall by the wayside. That and there's a lack of growth so its sort of a survival of the richest. Organizations that have very poor to non-existent sponsor promotion should be out of business. Poor marketing and fiscal decisions are what is killing eSports. Most NA teams are run like a nerd fraternity than a professional environment. Rigid practice schedules, consistent participation in tournaments, and product promotion are needed for survival in a developing market. The current business model of eSports is lacking. EG and Liquid hold their own online leagues, visually promote their sponsors (logos on team shirts), vocally thank their sponsors every chance they get, and actively try to create attention (ceremonies, community interaction, and social media). To be fare EG was always rich, Ann who runs it is a Celeb before Esports and had powerful finical resources and had good connections marketing wise, vs other teams that started from nothing. EG is like a Wallstreet run powerhouse that had rich people supporting it from the start, Not every team is blessed and can grab a ex supermodel to run the team. Teams need to develop a tangible products for sponsors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Prosser
This is true. The fact is these teams are branded team. If theyre players are not good at least they are very popular. That is what keeps them running, remember that any foreign team is in danger of falling to a better korean team.
I dont agree with the business model comment. I believe the problem is players seeking the best team instead of playing their game. What attracts sponsors? Wins, wins, and more wins. How can you always win if you are always taking chances at the best tournament. The money always follows the talent and talent is honed at home. This is actually what is wrong with eSports. You cant run a team like a business because it is not one. But the business you create with it keeps the team running. I was gonna say more but I really need to think about what I want to say... Ill be back.
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wow, that is so unexpected.
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Wow what... did not see this coming at all...
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Darn, best of luck to the players and staff, hope they all find a new team asap.
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Is that why Illusion didn't attend IPL5?
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wow, I was having a good day....
GL to those teamless now
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Really makes me wonder how unstable E Sports is.
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