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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 24 2012 14:18 GMT
#141
You can't blame progamers switching from SC2 to LoL because even if they don't like the game, it makes business sense. Anyone who's played SC2 at a high level can get to the highest elo's of League because there isn't much of a skill cap. Not only that, it's insanely popular because of this generation's casuals who can't learn games with depth. ...And Riot is throwing a lot of money at the 'scene', which to me just looks to be getting closer and closer to becoming KESPA 2.0
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
October 24 2012 14:20 GMT
#142
the exodus continues. i bet we're gonna hear mkp switch next too
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 14:26:20
October 24 2012 14:26 GMT
#143
My only concern about these players switching is that some ESF teams may end up disbanding in the future.
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
October 24 2012 14:49 GMT
#144
i'm suprised he got to 2k elo while he was an sc2 pro. And can you guys please stop with the 'riot is throwing alot of money' shenanigans? LoL was pretty popular in korea even before they put up the korean server. And 'riot throwing money' (god knows what that phrase even means exactly, investing? That's a bad thing? And what about Valve?) only effects the progamers not the casuals.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 24 2012 14:57 GMT
#145
Really sad to see one of my favorite Terrans go.

I was always holding out hope that he'd make a dramatic recovery from his lung problems and return to glory.

sC vs NesTea Game 5 on Crossfire. That's all that needs to be said.

Hopefully you make it big in LoL so I can follow you there Seung Chul!~
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
October 24 2012 14:58 GMT
#146
On October 24 2012 18:06 .kv wrote:
so many countless epic games involving sC especially his series against NesTea...one of my favorite terrans to watch and I don't even play terran


Can't forget his series in the finals against DRG in the LG 3d special tournament shit.
Evil Geniuses<3
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 24 2012 15:01 GMT
#147
Most of what I remember from sC is just cheese plays of various kinds.
I think from memory he played very few non-cheesy games that I have seen, especially in the semi-recent games.

I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason for switching is because he can't get there in the game, because his playstyle isn't right for the way the game is played now.
HOLY CHECK!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 24 2012 15:01 GMT
#148
Goodluck at LoL.
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
October 24 2012 15:02 GMT
#149

He's so young, could be Flash like in the future. sigh.

mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
October 24 2012 15:06 GMT
#150
On October 24 2012 23:18 Gentso wrote:
...it makes business sense. Anyone who's played SC2 at a high level can get to the highest elo's of League because there isn't much of a skill cap.

This.

Players are switching to LoL not because SC2 is "dying, declining...etc" but because of saturation and skill cap. The top of the SC2 scene is fairly well established and the progamer population has reached a point of over saturation as it relates to major tournaments, streams, sponsorships...etc. With the boom in popularity of other eSports-scene games it makes sense that many pros would switch over from a saturated market to one with plenty of room at the top of the pyramid.

To put it in a sciency-wiency sort of way: think of progamers like electrons, the game they're playing as the conduit, and making money as the energy-output/goal. As you add more conduits to the goal, the electrons will move along those conduits as they offer less resistance to the goal.

After all, the term is progamer, not proSC2player.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
October 24 2012 15:17 GMT
#151
I feel sorry for second class pros that think they will get a new chance in LOL.

They will not. The skillcap is not there, the only challenge is coordinating with your teammates and that is it. Nothing will differentiate pro team A from pro team B in a couple or years.

It is like trying to make money by being better at flipping burgers than the the next guy. It does not work. Every good burger flipper is about as good as every other good burger flipper.

Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 24 2012 15:23 GMT
#152
On October 24 2012 23:00 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 18:20 Fionn wrote:
Starcraft was a town filled with many restaurants. Startale Burgers, LG-IM Sushi, TSL Tacos, and some others. Everything was good, and while some of the other places didn't get as many people, everyone could stay employed and continue working.

THEN OUTTA NOWHERE EIGHT NEW BIG CHAIN RESTAURANTS LIKE KT CRAB SHACK AND SK PIZZA MOVE INTO TOWN.

Guys, 100 or so players recently switched to SC2. The player field is now over saturated and those employers who could get by a while ago can't stand with so many new players coming over and taking their jobs. sC once had amazing potential and would have been a GSL champion if not for Nestea in possibly the greatest SC2 game of all-time, but he hadn't done much in over a year since his lung collapsed. He obviously has been playing LoL for a long time.



I can't say it better then this.

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On October 24 2012 22:56 Arnstein wrote:
Not a surprise. Starcraft 2 isn't good enough. I hope everyone switches back to BW, so we can have fun again. I have subscribed to GSL since season 1, but the game is too boring, it just isn't worth it any more.


Yeah, sc2 is not good enough, it's so boring, so people switch to an easier game that is much more boring? I challenge you, show a sc2 game to your non-gaming friends and show a LoL game to your non-gaming friends and see what makes them more excited. Kespa players joined a few months ago, and some of them are already code S level. Give it a few more months and we will see much more sick games.


This is not about my non-gaming friends, but pros that play 12+ hours a day.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Elison
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
111 Posts
October 24 2012 15:30 GMT
#153
This makes me so sad, sC has been one of my absolute favourite players since his epic run in GSL May 2011. He played an aggressive style that reminded me of MKP, so when MKP got knocked out early in GSL at the time I found myself cheering for sC to win instead. I will never forget the awesome first game against LosirA in the round of 8 of GSL May where he just attacked with like 15 marines rallied constantly and then used great micro to win, now from time to time referred to as "the sC style". Since then I have always rooted for sC in every match he has played, except for when he was facing MKP, but that's not relevant. Then the health problems started, which made me even sadder than I am right now.

But this is not that unexpected. If you have followed sC on Twitter or read his interviews you know that he's been playing LoL seemingly quite a lot. If he feels this is the best course of action then I am sure it is and I think he will be just as great at LoL as he was with WoL. I will continue to cheer for you sC and wish you all the best as you walk down this new path in life.

For me, today WoL lost one of it's brighest stars.
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Eko200
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
October 24 2012 15:31 GMT
#154
On October 25 2012 00:06 mythandier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 23:18 Gentso wrote:
...it makes business sense. Anyone who's played SC2 at a high level can get to the highest elo's of League because there isn't much of a skill cap.

This.

Players are switching to LoL not because SC2 is "dying, declining...etc" but because of saturation and skill cap. The top of the SC2 scene is fairly well established and the progamer population has reached a point of over saturation as it relates to major tournaments, streams, sponsorships...etc. With the boom in popularity of other eSports-scene games it makes sense that many pros would switch over from a saturated market to one with plenty of room at the top of the pyramid.

To put it in a sciency-wiency sort of way: think of progamers like electrons, the game they're playing as the conduit, and making money as the energy-output/goal. As you add more conduits to the goal, the electrons will move along those conduits as they offer less resistance to the goal.

After all, the term is progamer, not proSC2player.


Wait... so because the top of SC2 is already saturated some of the players already at the top are going to leave? Doesn't make much sense, its safe to assume LoL is so popular in Korea that some of the people who dreamed of becoming a household name like Boxer see a better chance of that in LoL. A part of me wants to say "good riddance" because I much prefer the best players to actually love the game then just do it for money and fame.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 24 2012 15:31 GMT
#155
why not easier game that needs much less effort
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
October 24 2012 15:32 GMT
#156
T_T but sC played LoL a lot alongside with practicing SC2 according to interviews with him and other MVP players.
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
October 24 2012 15:32 GMT
#157
So sad.... I was a pretty big fan of him but ah well... I guess with illness you have to switch to a less mechanically demanding game.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 24 2012 15:36 GMT
#158
Good luck in LoL sC!
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 24 2012 15:38 GMT
#159
On October 25 2012 00:31 Eko200 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 00:06 mythandier wrote:
On October 24 2012 23:18 Gentso wrote:
...it makes business sense. Anyone who's played SC2 at a high level can get to the highest elo's of League because there isn't much of a skill cap.

This.

Players are switching to LoL not because SC2 is "dying, declining...etc" but because of saturation and skill cap. The top of the SC2 scene is fairly well established and the progamer population has reached a point of over saturation as it relates to major tournaments, streams, sponsorships...etc. With the boom in popularity of other eSports-scene games it makes sense that many pros would switch over from a saturated market to one with plenty of room at the top of the pyramid.

To put it in a sciency-wiency sort of way: think of progamers like electrons, the game they're playing as the conduit, and making money as the energy-output/goal. As you add more conduits to the goal, the electrons will move along those conduits as they offer less resistance to the goal.

After all, the term is progamer, not proSC2player.


Wait... so because the top of SC2 is already saturated some of the players already at the top are going to leave? Doesn't make much sense, its safe to assume LoL is so popular in Korea that some of the people who dreamed of becoming a household name like Boxer see a better chance of that in LoL. A part of me wants to say "good riddance" because I much prefer the best players to actually love the game then just do it for money and fame.

sC is at the top?
He dropped out of Code A in April and hasn't done anything of note since then, except some losses in WCS Korea and in GSTL.
He's at best middle of the pack, and that pack is pretty large. He's basically nowhere, so moving on to something else where he can try and be someone makes sense.
HOLY CHECK!
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
October 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#160
NOOOOO NOT SC
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
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