The head of ESF steps down from his position - Page 8

Gladiator6

Sweden7024 Posts

October 19 2012 11:40 GMT

#141

On October 19 2012 20:12 Sent. wrote:
"I am truly sorry to Team Slayers" hahahahahaa... It's ridiculous. He's very sorry not because he did bad stuff, but because bad stuff was revealed.

The irony of life!

mikedebo

Canada4341 Posts

October 19 2012 11:40 GMT

#142

On October 19 2012 20:00 farnham wrote:

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On October 19 2012 19:19 silent_owl wrote:

On October 19 2012 18:56 TeeTS wrote:

On October 19 2012 18:49 Telcontar wrote:
Are you people delusional? He wouldn't step down or apologise like this if what Jessica said wasn't true (well, mostly). This damages him, his team, and the eSF organisation. He isn't being noble or sacrificing himself for the greater good. He's taking responsibility for fucking up, for which I applaud him. Still, it should never have happened in the first place and this just shows how immature and fucking amateurish a lot of the people in the scene are. I wouldn't be surprised if eSF breaks up like SC2Con did previously. They'll probably just reform under a different name to try and start again with a blank slate. However, with the same people in charge nothing will change.

Of course there is truth in what she said. But do you see where this goes? I mentioned yesterday in the other post, that this attack by Jessica has only the reason to weaken or destroy the eSF. Otherwise she would've acted in a total different way. And by reading some comments of the korean scene, I have to admit: she was pretty successful.
eSF is in big trouble now, they were not prepared at all for such a case. They made one big mistake in the past and now everything they build up besides that is destroyed by a single person.
I say it again: It's absolutely impossible, that the practice embargo has caused Slayers to disband!

But now eSF and probably its teams with the organisation is going fall apart. Well done Jessica!

What's ironic is TSL was also victimized by this and TSL was victimized in the past by Coach Won as someone pointed out up there.

Jessica is not the only affected party here and bringing down a bully organization is justice, not just for Boxer and Jessica, but for TSL too. Props to TSL, they've already recuperated from all the accusations pushed against their coach. Jessica did what was right, unfortunately, Boxer and Jessica weren't as lucky as TSL in these matters.

Shiny world? The eSF deserves to burn because of this. Without the eSF, the teams would still survive and they'd DO BETTER in forming another organization with better and more clear-cut policies on dealing with inter-team politics. If the eSF is weakened at all by this, THANK GOD!

EDIT: When sc2con disbanded, did the teams disband too? NO! Your argument that they'd disband as well as eSF is unfounded.

TSL is a miracle. they lost fd,trickster, killer, puma, alive, jyp, clide.... dunni how coach lee did it. i think slayers had the potential to bounce back with miya, arthur, miso, genius etc. but yeah... would have been hard

Maybe because coach lee focused on rebuilding the team instead of dumping a 10 meg emo broadcast all over the interwebs

Edit: Actually maybe TSL should get the 'incredible miracle' moniker

renaissanceMAN

United States1840 Posts

October 19 2012 11:43 GMT

#143

I regained a little respect for the ESF now...

Glad to see at least the puzzle is coming together.

Deleted User 135096

3624 Posts

October 19 2012 11:47 GMT

#144

as others have said, this kind of smells like a political damage control move rather than a genuinely right one, but I don't know if we'll ever know which one it is (nor do I know Korean culture enough to say with any authority). What it does say however is that there was indeed some legitimacy to Jessica's claims.

Mefano

Sweden190 Posts

October 19 2012 11:48 GMT

#145

I guess everyone that wanted to blame Jessica for everything will have to bite their tounge.

Honestly it's really brave of someone to accept responsibility for their actions. To even step down from his position? It's sad that it's come to this but Won really rose in my eyes now. I just wish the ESF players that accepted the "no practice" orders without a fight would issue an apology, because it's a shame some didnt.

TeeTS, nice of you to laugh in this situation, but even if he is a scapegoat this proves Jessica was right. I guess you just can't accept that. But the saddest thing is that she will come out okay, and so will Won. The only ones that will be affected in the long run by the actions of ESF and Jessica are the SlayerS players, which if you believe some sources werent all that innocent either.

bearhug

United States999 Posts

October 19 2012 11:48 GMT

#146

On October 19 2012 18:13 Sub40APM wrote:
so...Jessica was right...Esports federation + some slayers members killed Boxers team ?

+ Jessica's poor management

MrShankly

United Kingdom371 Posts

October 19 2012 11:52 GMT

#147

Wow that is ridiculous, Can't believe it was true.. thats kinda crazy...

Mutalisk

288 Posts

October 19 2012 12:07 GMT

#148

I don't care about his apology. The damage is already done and all this situation caused all this ruckus and shattered boxers dream. I won't even forgive him or ESF teams who participated in that embargo.

MildSeven

Canada311 Posts

October 19 2012 12:11 GMT

#149

Interesting, I knew it couldn't be Jessica's fault with the way she openly publicized this blitzkrieg style, I had originally thought she may not be malicious, but certainly incompenent

Confession b the IEF says differently though, clearly they intentionally tried to ostricized Slayers, one factor to Jessica and Boxer's woes

Jehct

New Zealand9115 Posts

October 19 2012 12:11 GMT

#150

On October 19 2012 20:40 mikedebo wrote:

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On October 19 2012 20:00 farnham wrote:

On October 19 2012 19:19 silent_owl wrote:

On October 19 2012 18:56 TeeTS wrote:

Maybe because coach lee focused on rebuilding the team instead of dumping a 10 meg emo broadcast all over the interwebs

Edit: Actually maybe TSL should get the 'incredible miracle' moniker

No, he threw a massive bitchfit all across the interwebs first (alive etc. drama). Why do people make out that Jessica has been the only one to take this route =/

Logginurkeyz

United States375 Posts

October 19 2012 12:11 GMT

#151

One thing I still don't understand about this kind of situation these days- everytime something like this happens, someone writes out a short apology and steps down to dodge the hail storm rather than actually shouldering the responsibility of fixing the mess they have created... If everything worked that way, the entire world would be 'third-world'...

DucK-

Singapore11446 Posts

October 19 2012 12:13 GMT

#152

Hi guys. I'm not that updated with esports news. Could I have a very very short simple summary of what happened? Or a link to where I can possibly find it without searching through the pages?

Jehct

New Zealand9115 Posts

October 19 2012 12:13 GMT

#153

On October 19 2012 21:11 Logginurkeyz wrote:
One thing I still don't understand about this kind of situation these days- everytime something like this happens, someone writes out a short apology and steps down to dodge the hail storm rather than actually shouldering the responsibility of fixing the mess they have created... If everything worked that way, the entire world would be 'third-world'...

A third party can't exactly un-disband a team rofl

This is taking about as much responsibility as possible. "I fucked up, I shouldn't keep doing this. Here, this guy will do it better".

Tsutchie

Australia951 Posts

October 19 2012 12:13 GMT

#154

On October 19 2012 20:48 bearhug wrote:

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+ Jessica's poor management

what else did she do poorly besides allowing mr J to sabotage everything he touched?

Gianttt

Netherlands194 Posts

October 19 2012 12:13 GMT

#155

I didn't really understand why he stepped out of his position still. Due the conflict yeah, but he was very serious (atleast this looked like it) in apologizing for what happened. People make mistakes.

OopsOopsBaby

Singapore3425 Posts

October 19 2012 12:16 GMT

#156

On October 19 2012 21:13 Gianttt wrote:
I didn't really understand why he stepped out of his position still. Due the conflict yeah, but he was very serious (atleast this looked like it) in apologizing for what happened. People make mistakes.

not the first time. he fucked with tsl previously.