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The head of ESF steps down from his position - Page 7
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
Ostracizing players from training was a bitch move, but then, SlayerS not joining eSF also was. Having one hand on each others´ throats must fuck up you hot keys badly. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On October 19 2012 19:56 Daswollvieh wrote: Why can´t there ever just be good guys? Ostracizing players from training was a bitch move, but then, SlayerS not joining eSF also was. Having one hand on each others´ throats must fuck up you hot keys badly. How was that a bitch move? Do you join unions just because without seeing if you agree with what they do / represent as a group? | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
It's OK, if you need a new coach I hear there's this guy called Cella who is pretty awesome and might be looking for a team if he's planning to continue in Starcraft. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On October 19 2012 19:19 silent_owl wrote: What's ironic is TSL was also victimized by this and TSL was victimized in the past by Coach Won as someone pointed out up there. Jessica is not the only affected party here and bringing down a bully organization is justice, not just for Boxer and Jessica, but for TSL too. Props to TSL, they've already recuperated from all the accusations pushed against their coach. Jessica did what was right, unfortunately, Boxer and Jessica weren't as lucky as TSL in these matters. Shiny world? The eSF deserves to burn because of this. Without the eSF, the teams would still survive and they'd DO BETTER in forming another organization with better and more clear-cut policies on dealing with inter-team politics. If the eSF is weakened at all by this, THANK GOD! EDIT: When sc2con disbanded, did the teams disband too? NO! Your argument that they'd disband as well as eSF is unfounded. TSL is a miracle. they lost fd,trickster, killer, puma, alive, jyp, clide.... dunni how coach lee did it. i think slayers had the potential to bounce back with miya, arthur, miso, genius etc. but yeah... would have been hard | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On October 19 2012 19:56 Daswollvieh wrote: Why can´t there ever just be good guys? Ostracizing players from training was a bitch move, but then, SlayerS not joining eSF also was. Having one hand on each others´ throats must fuck up you hot keys badly. not joining an org like esf is a bitch move... okay | ||
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Starp
Canada199 Posts
bullying have to stop at any and all levels | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On October 19 2012 19:56 Daswollvieh wrote: Why can´t there ever just be good guys? Ostracizing players from training was a bitch move, but then, SlayerS not joining eSF also was. Having one hand on each others´ throats must fuck up you hot keys badly. By the way: there are totally good guys around. You just don't hear shit from them. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9285 Posts
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Enearde
France265 Posts
On October 19 2012 20:00 Lonyo wrote: It's OK, if you need a new coach I hear there's this guy called Cella who is pretty awesome and might be looking for a team if he's planning to continue in Starcraft. Choya is a very good coach and all around good player. He looks like a very genuine person. Esf did badly but there is no reason to fuck someone's life over just to calm the kids down. It's not like SlayerS disbanded for the sole reason Esf did some bullying, it's a combination of things like this J manager guy + gullible players + Esf bullying etc etc. Esf admitted their fault through their head representative who stepped down and apologize, no need to sanction this further IMO. It's already bad enough we lost a team, the pitchforks have to be brought down now. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
fxo.... man if fxo.boss knew about this and made that comment about boxer and slayers not being part of esf..... | ||
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blamekilly
466 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On October 19 2012 20:15 Enearde wrote: Choya is a very good coach and all around good player. He looks like a very genuine person. Esf did badly but there is no reason to fuck someone's life over just to calm the kids down. It's not like SlayerS disbanded for the sole reason Esf did some bullying, it's a combination of things like this J manager guy + gullible players + Esf bullying etc etc. Esf admitted their fault through their head representative who stepped down and apologize, no need to sanction this further IMO. It's already bad enough we lost a team, the pitchforks have to be brought down now. the thing is that the same shit happened with tsl.. they accused him and when the facts were revealed coach won steppes down and organized a new association soon afterwards | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
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Enearde
France265 Posts
On October 19 2012 20:20 farnham wrote: the thing is that the same shit happened with tsl.. they accused him and when the facts were revealed coach won steppes down and organized a new association soon afterwards I don't know, it might be true and i can't pretend knowing him at all. He might not be the best to fulfill any political job but i think Choya does a great job at coaching the FXO guys. He might be very bad at politics and maybe needs to be brought down to earth. In this case, it was not an individual decision, if every Esf members have to be sanctionned, i think no team would have a coach right after this. That's taking things out of proportion IMO. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:27 TeeTS wrote: haha you don't know how this world works, do you? He stepped down, because of the pressure that ignorant fans put on him, believing everything they are said first without thinking "what?" and "why?". He is a scapegoat to calm down the athmosphere, nothing more nothing less. This proves nothing, especially not justice. But yeah, live on in your shiny world of good and bad! Nothing will satisfy a sad, sad person such as yourself. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:27 TeeTS wrote: haha you don't know how this world works, do you? He stepped down, because of the pressure that ignorant fans put on him, believing everything they are said first without thinking "what?" and "why?". He is a scapegoat to calm down the athmosphere, nothing more nothing less. This proves nothing, especially not justice. But yeah, live on in your shiny world of good and bad! Because you have ALL the sources in the world right? God, its people like you that create the effect you're talking about in the first place. Meta-hypocritical. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4744 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:15 TechNoTrance wrote: Seems like something that could have been addressed before Slayers was destroyed completely :/ Yeah, thats what i am thinking. Why did Jessica waited so long before bringing this matter up? She was worried that people wont treat this matter seriously enough perhaps? | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
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