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VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 22 2012 02:26 GMT
#301

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
October 22 2012 02:29 GMT
#302
Until we get the social interface like BW had, I won't even be touching HotS
Jar Jar Binks
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 02:31:03
October 22 2012 02:30 GMT
#303
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 22 2012 02:35 GMT
#304
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 22 2012 02:44 GMT
#305
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


Huh, everybody I've talked to got into SC2 because of Day[9], Tasteless and all those community personality first instead of the game. They liked Day[9] unrelentling goofiness, Tasteless' jokes, and would follow them even if they do switch up games. So with their help, MLG could have totally take off with BW progaming, DH already had BW back then.

It was literally Korea vs the World in BW. But prior the release of SC2, BW foreigner's skills were at all time high with people capable of taking games off from the TBLS. So their skills were really just like the general Korean's A-teamers. With the proper domestic infrastructure, people's motivation will shoot up.

The reason why foreigners are so unaware of the progaming scene is because of the lack of internet. There are many talented player that played in my local Internet Cafe in 1 vs 1 that had no idea a pro scene existed until I've told them. They wanted to practice hard on ICCup which I ironically told them to wait until SC2 comes out because the graphic looked pretty sick back then in comparison. I apologize for that, they were fueled up for the project too.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
October 22 2012 02:45 GMT
#306
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


nobody will want to play BW because let's face it, as great and balanced as it was, that game is antique, and more and more younger generations of gamers want to play games with fancy graphics and realistic physic engines etc. etc.
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 22 2012 02:48 GMT
#307
On October 22 2012 11:44 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


Huh, everybody I've talked to got into SC2 because of Day[9], Tasteless and all those community personality first instead of the game. They liked Day[9] unrelentling goofiness, Tasteless' jokes, and would follow them even if they do switch up games. So with their help, MLG could have totally take off with BW progaming, DH already had BW back then.

It was literally Korea vs the World in BW. But prior the release of SC2, BW foreigner's skills were at all time high with people capable of taking games off from the TBLS. So their skills were really just like the general Korean's A-teamers. With the proper domestic infrastructure, people's motivation will shoot up.

The reason why foreigners are so unaware of the progaming scene is because of the lack of internet. There are many talented player that played in my local Internet Cafe in 1 vs 1 that had no idea a pro scene existed until I've told them. They wanted to practice hard on ICCup which I ironically told them to wait until SC2 comes out because the graphic looked pretty sick back then in comparison. I apologize for that, they were fueled up for the project too.


That will forever be speculation though, since we can never find that out. Life goes on. The funny thing is that I like bw too, I like sc2 as well, I find that both games have advantages and disadvantages. I just get really fed up with all of the people who have an agenda against either game and go into threads with the sole reason of trying to create more animosity. I would feel the same way if rabid sc2 fans had gone into the rip osl threads and gone out of their way to say "told you so! bw would get crushed by sc2".
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 22 2012 02:58 GMT
#308
On October 22 2012 11:48 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:44 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


Huh, everybody I've talked to got into SC2 because of Day[9], Tasteless and all those community personality first instead of the game. They liked Day[9] unrelentling goofiness, Tasteless' jokes, and would follow them even if they do switch up games. So with their help, MLG could have totally take off with BW progaming, DH already had BW back then.

It was literally Korea vs the World in BW. But prior the release of SC2, BW foreigner's skills were at all time high with people capable of taking games off from the TBLS. So their skills were really just like the general Korean's A-teamers. With the proper domestic infrastructure, people's motivation will shoot up.

The reason why foreigners are so unaware of the progaming scene is because of the lack of internet. There are many talented player that played in my local Internet Cafe in 1 vs 1 that had no idea a pro scene existed until I've told them. They wanted to practice hard on ICCup which I ironically told them to wait until SC2 comes out because the graphic looked pretty sick back then in comparison. I apologize for that, they were fueled up for the project too.


That will forever be speculation though, since we can never find that out. Life goes on. The funny thing is that I like bw too, I like sc2 as well, I find that both games have advantages and disadvantages. I just get really fed up with all of the people who have an agenda against either game and go into threads with the sole reason of trying to create more animosity. I would feel the same way if rabid sc2 fans had gone into the rip osl threads and gone out of their way to say "told you so! bw would get crushed by sc2".


Well, for me I think that SC2 have done a great job with their MBS department and that's about it. Truthfully speaking, they should really just rehash BW's graphic into a more High Definition version of it without messing its physics too much. That would attract both new and old fans because all SC2 have done is to split the community into two halves when they could have totally build on 100% of BW legacy from the get go. The korean progamers would switch on a whim the moment it comes out, Blizzard will be known as the hero that saved modern RTS genre, foreigners will still be able to compete at high level due to reason I've explained above.

Alas, Blizzard screwed that up royally. I| use to joke to my friend that what if Blizzard goes bankrupt to which he would reply "Well they can just release SC2 in Korea, and there would be no one on the street of Seoul on the next day." Every starts laughing, we cheer up and life is beautiful again. And Blizzard have even managed to mess up sales in Korea, the sanctuary of RTS gaming.

As a RTS fan, I'm disappointed. As an economical bystander, I'm shocked. As a a consumer, I'm bored. As a TLer, I'm sad to see our community to be ripped apart by this set of action.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
October 22 2012 02:59 GMT
#309
On October 22 2012 11:44 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


Huh, everybody I've talked to got into SC2 because of Day[9], Tasteless and all those community personality first instead of the game. They liked Day[9] unrelentling goofiness, Tasteless' jokes, and would follow them even if they do switch up games. So with their help, MLG could have totally take off with BW progaming, DH already had BW back then.

It was literally Korea vs the World in BW. But prior the release of SC2, BW foreigner's skills were at all time high with people capable of taking games off from the TBLS. So their skills were really just like the general Korean's A-teamers. With the proper domestic infrastructure, people's motivation will shoot up.

The reason why foreigners are so unaware of the progaming scene is because of the lack of internet. There are many talented player that played in my local Internet Cafe in 1 vs 1 that had no idea a pro scene existed until I've told them. They wanted to practice hard on ICCup which I ironically told them to wait until SC2 comes out because the graphic looked pretty sick back then in comparison. I apologize for that, they were fueled up for the project too.


You are delusional. The last significant representation of Korea vs. World in BW was the usual massacre where Flash, Jaedong and Kal lost no games to a foreigner.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 22 2012 03:03 GMT
#310
On October 22 2012 11:59 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:44 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


Huh, everybody I've talked to got into SC2 because of Day[9], Tasteless and all those community personality first instead of the game. They liked Day[9] unrelentling goofiness, Tasteless' jokes, and would follow them even if they do switch up games. So with their help, MLG could have totally take off with BW progaming, DH already had BW back then.

It was literally Korea vs the World in BW. But prior the release of SC2, BW foreigner's skills were at all time high with people capable of taking games off from the TBLS. So their skills were really just like the general Korean's A-teamers. With the proper domestic infrastructure, people's motivation will shoot up.

The reason why foreigners are so unaware of the progaming scene is because of the lack of internet. There are many talented player that played in my local Internet Cafe in 1 vs 1 that had no idea a pro scene existed until I've told them. They wanted to practice hard on ICCup which I ironically told them to wait until SC2 comes out because the graphic looked pretty sick back then in comparison. I apologize for that, they were fueled up for the project too.


You are delusional. The last significant representation of Korea vs. World in BW was the usual massacre where Flash, Jaedong and Kal lost no games to a foreigner.


Bisu lost to PJ, chinese gamer.
Jaedong lost game to Advokate.
Pretty sure that IdrA manage to take Stork into a late game PvT which CJ's coach Cho became very impressed with those play.

Facts, sans-delusion
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1a2aMm
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Belgium47 Posts
October 22 2012 03:13 GMT
#311
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.



As a matter of fact, I saw this thread and I had read a few comments and it just made me think of those who switched to sc2 to follow the mass and now regret it, that's why I made the comment of "should've just sticked with bw boys, just saying", it was aimed at those people, nothing more nothing less, so stop trying to justify your use of the word "trolls" as you got it completely wrong.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 03:23:06
October 22 2012 03:15 GMT
#312
On October 22 2012 12:03 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:59 VManOfMana wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:44 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:35 VanGarde wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:30 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 11:26 VanGarde wrote:

"Calling us trolls because we have an opinion on something that doesn't suit you? Your arguments are getting better & better."

No, I am calling you trolls because clearly you are in these threads not to actually have a discussion about Sc2 e-sports but here to bring the same old sc2 vs bw trash discussions that we had every day during beta. You are just here to try and rub it in that you were right, you were not right ofcourse because these threads are retarded overreactions and there is no death of sc2 around the corner. But that is still your agenda here, and more people need to call you out on it.


"Oh man, our game are inferior in many aspects. I guess they were right..."

Agenda.Called.Out.


Imagine, if we had only stuck to bw, we would have had 1 million in price money for western bw tournaments now and 100k viewers per tournament and really compete with LoL. I mean we did not get to that in 10 years of Broodwar but the next year was going to be the magical one where the interest exploded.


Huh, everybody I've talked to got into SC2 because of Day[9], Tasteless and all those community personality first instead of the game. They liked Day[9] unrelentling goofiness, Tasteless' jokes, and would follow them even if they do switch up games. So with their help, MLG could have totally take off with BW progaming, DH already had BW back then.

It was literally Korea vs the World in BW. But prior the release of SC2, BW foreigner's skills were at all time high with people capable of taking games off from the TBLS. So their skills were really just like the general Korean's A-teamers. With the proper domestic infrastructure, people's motivation will shoot up.

The reason why foreigners are so unaware of the progaming scene is because of the lack of internet. There are many talented player that played in my local Internet Cafe in 1 vs 1 that had no idea a pro scene existed until I've told them. They wanted to practice hard on ICCup which I ironically told them to wait until SC2 comes out because the graphic looked pretty sick back then in comparison. I apologize for that, they were fueled up for the project too.


You are delusional. The last significant representation of Korea vs. World in BW was the usual massacre where Flash, Jaedong and Kal lost no games to a foreigner.


Bisu lost to PJ, chinese gamer.
Jaedong lost game to Advokate.
Pretty sure that IdrA manage to take Stork into a late game PvT which CJ's coach Cho became very impressed with those play.

Facts, sans-delusion


MMA lost to Goody
MC lost to Sheth
DRG lost to Socke

omg foreigners are so good at SC2!!!
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
October 22 2012 03:21 GMT
#313
On October 22 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 11:01 GTPGlitch wrote:
As long as the infestor exists, sc2 will never be as fun to watch as it was in 2011

Fungal is literally the worst spell i've ever seen designed, ever. of all time.

If someone can name 10 exciting vZ games since infestor spam became the meta (with infestors actually used), I will be very surprised.

thats a little off but i get the meaning

do you think the spell should be removed or would making it a slow instead be better? (either with or without damage)


It should either be

1) removed
2) reduce length of root, make it a projectile so that it can be dodged
3) Turned into something that is a lot less useful in every situation. Make the damage more specific to a single unit type or something, so that zergs don't get the urge to spam it over everything all the time and win :/
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 03:26:13
October 22 2012 03:24 GMT
#314
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest
1a2aMm
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Belgium47 Posts
October 22 2012 03:25 GMT
#315
On October 22 2012 12:24 iky43210 wrote:
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest



I take it you haven't read his comments on this thread, because from where I'm standing, he's quite right.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 03:31:12
October 22 2012 03:25 GMT
#316
On October 22 2012 12:24 iky43210 wrote:
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest


Hey nice meeting you too, oh random stranger from the interweb.

Some may practice optimism, I do realism.
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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 03:34:08
October 22 2012 03:30 GMT
#317
On October 22 2012 12:25 1a2aMm wrote:
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On October 22 2012 12:24 iky43210 wrote:
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest



I take it you haven't read his comments on this thread, because from where I'm standing, he's quite right.


stop being bitter about bw's death, its not coming back. The whole "should've stayed with broodwar" was completely hiliarious to read, consider the outside following of broodwar was abysmally small in comparison.

I don't even know how u guys aren't tired of bw vs sc2 fights. Go find a different game to immerse yourself in, stop trying to bother people who have different tastes from you or games that are clearly not designed for people like you
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 22 2012 03:35 GMT
#318
On October 22 2012 12:30 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 12:25 1a2aMm wrote:
On October 22 2012 12:24 iky43210 wrote:
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest



I take it you haven't read his comments on this thread, because from where I'm standing, he's quite right.


stop being bitter about bw's death, its not coming back. The whole "should've stayed with broodwar" was completely hiliarious to read, consider the outside following of broodwar was abysmally small in comparison. There is no "mass switch to sc2" consider there isn't even a sizable NA/euro BW fanbase in the first place


That's where you are being ignorant. Half of the guys in High School either plays CS or BW at the school computers over here.

And stop shooting yourself in the foot when evidence is being displayed with massive amount of foreigners switch to SC2 from the beta, Day9, IdrA, InControl, Infernal, Machine, Ret, Sen, White-ra all switched because of the initial boost in monetary price from Blizzard.

And hey BW is still here with SSL having way higher quality of gameplay than any GSL games I've seen. As matter of fact, I am never more happier than the BW scene as we are truly one unite legion of players. You are just plainly mad because you couldn't experience BW because of your close mind-ness.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 03:57:38
October 22 2012 03:36 GMT
#319
On October 22 2012 12:30 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 12:25 1a2aMm wrote:
On October 22 2012 12:24 iky43210 wrote:
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest



I take it you haven't read his comments on this thread, because from where I'm standing, he's quite right.


stop being bitter about bw's death, its not coming back. The whole "should've stayed with broodwar" was completely hiliarious to read, consider the outside following of broodwar was abysmally small in comparison.

I don't even know how u guys aren't tired of bw vs sc2 fights. Go find a different game to immerse yourself in, stop trying to bother people who have different tastes from you or games that are clearly not designed for people like you

It's just human nature to piss on the grave of your mother's murderer bro. And give the killer of your enemy a pat on the back. Go LoL!

EDIT: Although I will admit, things are looking bright for SC2's future in Korea where it matters most (not even being sarcastic here):

"ESF has lost too much creditability already that damage control is already past the point of zone where things can be salvaged. As things are headed people are more likely to embrace Kespa taking control of the scene."

Yussss
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
1a2aMm
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Belgium47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 03:45:50
October 22 2012 03:37 GMT
#320
On October 22 2012 12:30 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 12:25 1a2aMm wrote:
On October 22 2012 12:24 iky43210 wrote:
Xiphos has a personal vendetta against sc2 since release. Everything he sprouts was along the line of how sc2 is bad and bw is better, along with alot of jargons and Blizzard conspiracies theories, and he will never fails to trout some more bw vs sc2 at every opportunity

half of his posts on LR threads are gloating about how kespa players and bw superiority. Guy just can't give it a rest



I take it you haven't read his comments on this thread, because from where I'm standing, he's quite right.


stop being bitter about bw's death, its not coming back. The whole "should've stayed with broodwar" was completely hiliarious to read, consider the outside following of broodwar was abysmally small in comparison. There is no "mass switch to sc2" consider there isn't even a sizable NA/euro BW fanbase in the first place


I'm not even close to being bitter so please, stop acting like you're some kind of mind reading wizard.

1) I hardly play games in general nowadays + I hardly even read anything gaming related as I just don't care, I got way better things to do most of the time.
2) I don't care about bw dying nor do I care about sc2 still being alive, in fact I'm happy it is, for those who do play it.
3) It's hilarious* not hiliarious.

So please, for once, stop spouting the silly "stop being bitter" comments as you're nowhere close and you're just making yourself look like an utter tool.


Have a nice day.

edit: oh, nice edit right there lad, "I don't even know how u guys aren't tired of bw vs sc2 fights. Go find a different game to immerse yourself in, stop trying to bother people who have different tastes from you or games that are clearly not designed for people like you"

I'm not bothering those who do play sc2, I just made a simple comment aimed at a select group of people and a couple of sc2 fanatics immediately try to jump on me taking the comment for a whole lot more than I meant it to be, so really, the only reason we're still here is because the likes of you are the ones who are 1) bitter, 2) mad, 3) thick headed) and keep on targeting us claiming we're trying to have a bw vs sc2 festival going which isn't the case. So please, pretty please, just stop talking to us.
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