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Cygoris
Profile Joined May 2012
Luxembourg40 Posts
October 17 2012 21:06 GMT
#1661
On October 18 2012 05:47 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 05:44 Cygoris wrote:
On October 18 2012 04:09 Kokujin wrote:
On October 18 2012 04:05 mikedebo wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:25 Cygoris wrote:
You don't disband a successful team because you're butt hurt.


+9999


No, you disband because you have no $ponsors and half your roster is unmotivated/quit


Read again please.
Money/sponsors wasn't the issue, motivation was not the issue (I'm quite sure even I can find player motivated to play for Slayers) and results were not the issue.

Drama, treason and lack of (honest) communication between the Korean SC2 community are the issue.

And yes, Slayers was disbanded because she was butt hurt and had enough basically.

Yeah but how can you lift an embargo like that... It was a conspiracy against her and now the conspirator has admitted it too


Well first of all, Slayers was a very successful team under the embargo.
Then you don't wait 2 centuries before publicly addressing the issue.
You have to openly complain about it to make it stop.
Wait... What?
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
October 17 2012 21:06 GMT
#1662
So when do we think the truth about Alicia will come out?
"En taro adun, Executor."
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 17 2012 21:07 GMT
#1663
On October 18 2012 06:04 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 05:58 ACrow wrote:
I don't get the fuzz about the embargo. It is not like Kespa pros from different teams praciice freely with each other - you want to have competent practice partners, that's what you team is for. It sounds like SlayerS didn't want to be a part of the eSF party, so they don't enjoy the benefits, what's the deal? You don't play nice with me, I don't play nice with you, easy as that.


Also.... Slayers just came 2nd in the last GSTL.... so its not like it hurt them.

Yoko Ono took over the team from John Lennon, and the rest of the band decided they wanted out. She held them in with their contracts... then John Lennon left..... now Yoko see's the writing on the wall and that everyone is going to bail on her... and rather than let that happen she decides to try and make herself look blameless on the way out by making some silly excuses.

Its clear than no one wanted to play for Jessica, they were all going to leave the first chance they got.

My guess is she didn't want to have to deal with that trickle of shame, she'd rather break up with them first.

It did..last year slayers won 2 gstls and got 2nd place in one.. Also they got two gsl titles and beginning this year they had 6 code s players
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
October 17 2012 21:07 GMT
#1664
On October 18 2012 06:04 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 05:58 ACrow wrote:
I don't get the fuzz about the embargo. It is not like Kespa pros from different teams praciice freely with each other - you want to have competent practice partners, that's what you team is for. It sounds like SlayerS didn't want to be a part of the eSF party, so they don't enjoy the benefits, what's the deal? You don't play nice with me, I don't play nice with you, easy as that.


Also.... Slayers just came 2nd in the last GSTL.... so its not like it hurt them.

Yoko Ono took over the team from John Lennon, and the rest of the band decided they wanted out. She held them in with their contracts... then John Lennon left..... now Yoko see's the writing on the wall and that everyone is going to bail on her... and rather than let that happen she decides to try and make herself look blameless on the way out by making some silly excuses.

Its clear than no one wanted to play for Jessica, they were all going to leave the first chance they got.

My guess is she didn't want to have to deal with that trickle of shame, she'd rather break up with them first.


Stop repeating this nonsense over and over. Just admit that you are sad that MMA doesn't come off squeeky clean in all of this.
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storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
October 17 2012 21:08 GMT
#1665
On October 18 2012 05:58 ACrow wrote:
I don't get the fuzz about the embargo. It is not like Kespa pros from different teams praciice freely with each other - you want to have competent practice partners, that's what you team is for. It sounds like SlayerS didn't want to be a part of the eSF party, so they don't enjoy the benefits, what's the deal? You don't play nice with me, I don't play nice with you, easy as that. It's not as if they are entitled to have other team's pros available as practice partners.

Yeah, you have a point. But if you look at the big picture, ESF is killing e-sports or what's left of it. Because they wanted to maintain their monopoly, they almost killed TSL (Coach Lee pulled a miracle out of his ass to save his team imo) and now Slayers - a two time GSTL champion with MMA i.e. Boxer's team. To me, it doesn't matter whether they were morally justified in denying Slayers practice partners. It's just so fucking stupid and petty that I can't even begin to comprehend what goes on in their tiny little brains.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 17 2012 21:08 GMT
#1666
On October 18 2012 06:04 dsousa wrote:
Also.... Slayers just came 2nd in the last GSTL.... so its not like it hurt them.

What kind of logic is that?
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
October 17 2012 21:09 GMT
#1667
I just feel sorry for poor BoxeR He spent so much time, money and dedication on his team yet the players don't give him half the respect he deserves
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 17 2012 21:09 GMT
#1668
The fact that Jessica was putting players in two categories ' GSTL one and non GSTL one" is already fucking wrong.
It seems that woman had no idea how to manage a team at all.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 17 2012 21:09 GMT
#1669
On October 18 2012 06:06 Cygoris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 05:47 farnham wrote:
On October 18 2012 05:44 Cygoris wrote:
On October 18 2012 04:09 Kokujin wrote:
On October 18 2012 04:05 mikedebo wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:25 Cygoris wrote:
You don't disband a successful team because you're butt hurt.


+9999


No, you disband because you have no $ponsors and half your roster is unmotivated/quit


Read again please.
Money/sponsors wasn't the issue, motivation was not the issue (I'm quite sure even I can find player motivated to play for Slayers) and results were not the issue.

Drama, treason and lack of (honest) communication between the Korean SC2 community are the issue.

And yes, Slayers was disbanded because she was butt hurt and had enough basically.

Yeah but how can you lift an embargo like that... It was a conspiracy against her and now the conspirator has admitted it too



Well first of all, Slayers was a very successful team under the embargo.
Then you don't wait 2 centuries before publicly addressing the issue.
You have to openly complain about it to make it stop.


You cannot do that in korea and expect to continue. This kind of revelation was possible because jessica is disbanding slayers.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 17 2012 21:10 GMT
#1670
i never liked MMA or SlayerS, but this is still sad news.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 17 2012 21:10 GMT
#1671
On October 18 2012 06:09 Noocta wrote:
The fact that Jessica was putting players in two categories ' GSTL one and non GSTL one" is already fucking wrong.
It seems that woman had no idea how to manage a team at all.

Thats what alicia is saying and his explanation why he didnt wanted to participate in gstl is very childish
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 17 2012 21:11 GMT
#1672
On October 18 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 06:09 Noocta wrote:
The fact that Jessica was putting players in two categories ' GSTL one and non GSTL one" is already fucking wrong.
It seems that woman had no idea how to manage a team at all.

Thats what alicia is saying and his explanation why he didnt wanted to participate in gstl is very childish


I don't think so.
I would not want to participate if I was blamed for every loss.

That's not how you motivate a player to do better.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
October 17 2012 21:11 GMT
#1673
On October 18 2012 06:09 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 06:06 Cygoris wrote:
On October 18 2012 05:47 farnham wrote:
On October 18 2012 05:44 Cygoris wrote:
On October 18 2012 04:09 Kokujin wrote:
On October 18 2012 04:05 mikedebo wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:25 Cygoris wrote:
You don't disband a successful team because you're butt hurt.


+9999


No, you disband because you have no $ponsors and half your roster is unmotivated/quit


Read again please.
Money/sponsors wasn't the issue, motivation was not the issue (I'm quite sure even I can find player motivated to play for Slayers) and results were not the issue.

Drama, treason and lack of (honest) communication between the Korean SC2 community are the issue.

And yes, Slayers was disbanded because she was butt hurt and had enough basically.

Yeah but how can you lift an embargo like that... It was a conspiracy against her and now the conspirator has admitted it too



Well first of all, Slayers was a very successful team under the embargo.
Then you don't wait 2 centuries before publicly addressing the issue.
You have to openly complain about it to make it stop.


You cannot do that in korea and expect to continue. This kind of revelation was possible because jessica is disbanding slayers.

Seriously, why are there people who still do not get this? You can't go on running an SC2 team after shitting on basically everyone else in the scene (even if it's justified).
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eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
October 17 2012 21:11 GMT
#1674
On October 18 2012 05:58 ACrow wrote:
I don't get the fuzz about the embargo. It is not like Kespa pros from different teams praciice freely with each other - you want to have competent practice partners, that's what you team is for. It sounds like SlayerS didn't want to be a part of the eSF party, so they don't enjoy the benefits, what's the deal? You don't play nice with me, I don't play nice with you, easy as that. It's not as if they are entitled to have other team's pros available as practice partners.


Exactly. At first Slayer dont want to join ESF (yet we all know the fact rich kid dont want to hang out with poor ones), and after a year poor kid got money and the rich kid got cut off financial support. So now the rich kid blame that he has no friend and poor kids dont want to play with him because they are bad and evil?
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
October 17 2012 21:12 GMT
#1675
:/ Well that is certainly not pleasant at all. I hope the players, BoxeR, and Jessica all do well in whatever they decide to do in the future.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
delayed reflex
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada358 Posts
October 17 2012 21:13 GMT
#1676
On October 18 2012 06:06 Chriscras wrote:
So when do we think the truth about Alicia will come out?

Hot off the presses - ESFI World has an interview with him today, via Reddit.
daRyo
Profile Joined September 2010
4 Posts
October 17 2012 21:13 GMT
#1677
Boxer and Jessica had good intentions and they were very productive in process of making them come true. It seems, however, that they spoiled the kids. Jessica is probably egocentric to some degree, but professional gaming is not a child's play. The kids should have appreciated the opportunity more. At least that's what it looks like.. As a Puzzle's fan, I'm disappointed. Really? LoL? LOL!
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 21:15:40
October 17 2012 21:13 GMT
#1678
Obviously the liar doesn't deny that they lied... Is there really a lie or anything, we won't know unless there's legal action taken and we hear from different sides.

Right now, we heard from SlayersJessica, and to me, it sounds like she's willing to take everyone down with her while expressing her feelings for her players as someone who loves them and wants them to do their very best. It's hard to believe this Manager J had such an influence on everyone. It's like he single handedly destroyed Slayers, while at the same time making eSf and the players look like the bad guys.

On October 18 2012 06:13 delayed reflex wrote:
Hot off the presses - ESFI World has an interview with him today, via Reddit.


Looks like I was right.

Can we have all the article links put in the OP? That way it makes it easier for us to read it. There's currently like 80 pages to go through... This thread will probably get up to like 300.
Desiire
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia191 Posts
October 17 2012 21:14 GMT
#1679
that's so sad
#AllKingsMustDieButHeIsAGod
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33693 Posts
October 17 2012 21:14 GMT
#1680
it wouldn't be that surprising if they ganged up on dirty scabs
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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