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On October 18 2012 03:25 Cygoris wrote:
Is it only me or does anyone else think that the issues that they had were not that bad?
Apparently money was not the biggest problem (it usually is) but lack of communication and bloody PMS (or was it nervousness the word I was looking for) ruined it all.
You don't close the shop because of that, you just fix the damn thing and move on with your life.
Players who want to leave must leave, what's the point of keeping a player against his will, his performance will decrease anyway (MMA case for ex) players who want to stay fucking behave and that's pretty much it.
I'm quite sure there are tons of good players who would gladly join a team like Slayers, all of this makes no sense.
You don't disband a successful team because you're butt hurt.
I genuinely think a good staff meeting where everything is discussed honestly by everyone, and peacefully, would easily solve the problems.
I don't think i can agreed with this.
There is a reason why contracts exist in the real world.
It is to prevent issues like what you said.
Imagine if everyone can just leave their respective team as they wish, there will be no stability and support for the team
It happen in a similar case in the TSL case where Alive left for Fnatic and a shitstorm occured.
Coach Lee trusted Alive that he would remained with TSL without any contract signed.
But Alive left because he wished too and Coach Lee regretted.
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The good news is once this dies down we won't have to hear from Jessica again.
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On October 18 2012 03:31 eleaf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:17 LimeNade wrote:On October 18 2012 03:13 eleaf wrote:On October 18 2012 03:10 sunwentai wrote:
I think Jessica is truthful in her comments. This very much feels like someone who has been disregarded and lied to left and right, and who was never able to share her thoughts about all this. Doesn't mean that all of it is exactly right, but it does feel like this is exactly what she experienced through her relations with others. I think she feels powerless while trying hard to make things right for everyone. If you know her a little bit more, you wouldnt say this at all. He is a completely a Bxxxx and literally ruined Slayers by running the team. Eleaf if you know anything about Boxer's and Jessica then you my friend are an idiot. Yes she can be overly dramatic at times but I have yet to hear her lie with mostly anything when she speaks out especially when its pertained to boxer's career. Most of everything that is said fits and that the players are the main reason this team fell apart because they were ungrateful and selfish brats. Their egos got wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too big for their own good and ended up destroying themselves and the team basically. Anyone who can bash boxer player, team, manager, etc etc etc is in my mind an ungrateful prick. They single handedly destroyed his willingness to want to make a comeback or continue to grow slayers and for that I can never forgive these players. You got me wrong. And actually I'm bashing her because of her ego. I didnt bash Boxer's other players/manager but for Jessica ... I just cant say any good words about her. This girl has been spoiled and never be a team player, in fact he never will. Basically if you got isolated in school, that means you have problem not the whole school. You cant say that 99% of the kids are bad and only your kid is the good boy.
What? Did you even read anything? Do you know anything about jessica and boxer's history? The PLAYERS the one who were the trouble makers MADE BOXER LEAVE THE HOUSE NOT JESSICA. Learn to read and do your research before commenting. Jessica is a strong manager regardless of her dramatic emotions. She has managed much bigger things then a starcraft2 team and never have any of your comments been more WRONG when pertaining to her professionalism so please just shut it and learn your facts before making dumb comments that show your ignorance.
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On October 18 2012 03:31 eleaf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:17 LimeNade wrote:On October 18 2012 03:13 eleaf wrote:On October 18 2012 03:10 sunwentai wrote:
I think Jessica is truthful in her comments. This very much feels like someone who has been disregarded and lied to left and right, and who was never able to share her thoughts about all this. Doesn't mean that all of it is exactly right, but it does feel like this is exactly what she experienced through her relations with others. I think she feels powerless while trying hard to make things right for everyone. If you know her a little bit more, you wouldnt say this at all. He is a completely a Bxxxx and literally ruined Slayers by running the team. Eleaf if you know anything about Boxer's and Jessica then you my friend are an idiot. Yes she can be overly dramatic at times but I have yet to hear her lie with mostly anything when she speaks out especially when its pertained to boxer's career. Most of everything that is said fits and that the players are the main reason this team fell apart because they were ungrateful and selfish brats. Their egos got wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too big for their own good and ended up destroying themselves and the team basically. Anyone who can bash boxer player, team, manager, etc etc etc is in my mind an ungrateful prick. They single handedly destroyed his willingness to want to make a comeback or continue to grow slayers and for that I can never forgive these players. You got me wrong. And actually I'm bashing her because of her ego. I didnt bash Boxer's other players/manager but for Jessica ... I just cant say any good words about her. This girl has been spoiled and never be a team player, in fact he never will. Basically if you got isolated in school, that means you have problem not the whole school. You cant say that 99% of the kids are bad and only your kid is the good boy. thats the logic a typical bully would have. Everyone hates the outsider kid so he must be wrong and we are righteous to bully him... By that standard yes the startale coach is a great man and jessica is a poor misguided soul
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Bye bye Slayers, you'll be missed.
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Worst part of this:
No SlayerSGoOdy:/
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... I can't read Korean. -_-
Seeker (or any other awesome wonderful translator people whose names spring into my head), your our only hope.
(Sophisticated zing, Waxangel.)
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On October 18 2012 03:30 deezy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:28 theonemav wrote:On October 18 2012 03:27 zefreak wrote:On October 18 2012 03:25 theonemav wrote:
Wow this interview with Jessica really shows how poor of a leader she is.
Slayers choose not to join the federation, then they get mad when players from the federation don't want to practice with them?
Then bashing almost all of your current and former players, because she recruited the wrong manager and kept a distance from key team members.
Take some accountability for your actions..... You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. I think you are twisting this too much. If you read the article, it points out that some of these things were out of her reach. You can't account for other peoples' actions especially when the ball isn't in your court. If anything, she deserves more respect for protecting the team and their players. If you don't believe in something, why are you going to join them, especially when they are so quick to turn against you without hearing both sides?
Twisting what? this is one side of the story (hers) which you can clearly see a lack of leadership on her part.
She is basically saying everyone was out to get her and she had no idea why this was happening, which is poor leadership at its core.
Also ripping all your players right when they are going to be looking for jobs is really bad form...
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On October 18 2012 03:36 felisconcolori wrote:... I can't read Korean. -_- Seeker (or any other awesome wonderful translator people whose names spring into my head), your our only hope. (Sophisticated zing, Waxangel.)
Also already debunked by jessica
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On October 18 2012 03:37 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:30 deezy wrote:On October 18 2012 03:28 theonemav wrote:On October 18 2012 03:27 zefreak wrote:On October 18 2012 03:25 theonemav wrote:
Wow this interview with Jessica really shows how poor of a leader she is.
Slayers choose not to join the federation, then they get mad when players from the federation don't want to practice with them?
Then bashing almost all of your current and former players, because she recruited the wrong manager and kept a distance from key team members.
Take some accountability for your actions..... You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. I think you are twisting this too much. If you read the article, it points out that some of these things were out of her reach. You can't account for other peoples' actions especially when the ball isn't in your court. If anything, she deserves more respect for protecting the team and their players. If you don't believe in something, why are you going to join them, especially when they are so quick to turn against you without hearing both sides? Twisting what? this is one side of the story (hers) which you can clearly see a lack of leadership on her part. She is basically saying everyone was out to get her and she had no idea why this was happening, which is poor leadership at its core. Also ripping all your players right when they are going to be looking for jobs is really bad form...
If what she says is accurate then the players don't deserve jobs
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On October 18 2012 03:38 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:36 felisconcolori wrote:... I can't read Korean. -_- Seeker (or any other awesome wonderful translator people whose names spring into my head), your our only hope. (Sophisticated zing, Waxangel.) Also already debunked by jessica
How is this debunked? In detail, and English, please.
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On October 18 2012 03:38 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:38 farnham wrote:On October 18 2012 03:36 felisconcolori wrote:... I can't read Korean. -_- Seeker (or any other awesome wonderful translator people whose names spring into my head), your our only hope. (Sophisticated zing, Waxangel.) Also already debunked by jessica How is this debunked? In detail, and English, please.
It was some recent chat logs, but that honestly proves little. If the chats were dated back in the days when things originally happened, it might mean a little more.
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Only one side of the story, but still pretty damn sad... whatever the true/whole reason is...
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On October 18 2012 03:38 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:38 farnham wrote:On October 18 2012 03:36 felisconcolori wrote:... I can't read Korean. -_- Seeker (or any other awesome wonderful translator people whose names spring into my head), your our only hope. (Sophisticated zing, Waxangel.) Also already debunked by jessica How is this debunked? In detail, and English, please.
jessica posted a rebuttal on playxp, with conversation records between ganzi and some unnamed player.
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On October 18 2012 03:38 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:37 theonemav wrote:On October 18 2012 03:30 deezy wrote:On October 18 2012 03:28 theonemav wrote:On October 18 2012 03:27 zefreak wrote:On October 18 2012 03:25 theonemav wrote:
Wow this interview with Jessica really shows how poor of a leader she is.
Slayers choose not to join the federation, then they get mad when players from the federation don't want to practice with them?
Then bashing almost all of your current and former players, because she recruited the wrong manager and kept a distance from key team members.
Take some accountability for your actions..... You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. I think you are twisting this too much. If you read the article, it points out that some of these things were out of her reach. You can't account for other peoples' actions especially when the ball isn't in your court. If anything, she deserves more respect for protecting the team and their players. If you don't believe in something, why are you going to join them, especially when they are so quick to turn against you without hearing both sides? Twisting what? this is one side of the story (hers) which you can clearly see a lack of leadership on her part. She is basically saying everyone was out to get her and she had no idea why this was happening, which is poor leadership at its core. Also ripping all your players right when they are going to be looking for jobs is really bad form... If what she says is accurate then the players don't deserve jobs
Yes I'm sure everyone on the team was terrible and she was an angel and the best leader of all time!!!!!
happy now?
someone must have a crush rofl...
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Holy crap I actually predicted that a week ago, that they're going to disband withing 6 months. After writing that in twitch chat I was ridiculed for even thinking of it. "Who the hell you think you are, you have no idea".
Apparently I did.
I kinda wonder if/how losing to TL and EG affected their decision tho
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On October 18 2012 03:39 achan1058 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:38 felisconcolori wrote:On October 18 2012 03:38 farnham wrote:On October 18 2012 03:36 felisconcolori wrote:... I can't read Korean. -_- Seeker (or any other awesome wonderful translator people whose names spring into my head), your our only hope. (Sophisticated zing, Waxangel.) Also already debunked by jessica How is this debunked? In detail, and English, please. It was some recent chat logs, but that honestly proves little.
The truth is a three edged sword. Jessica saying something, and then LG-IM Coach saying something, itself doesn't prove anything. Not that any particular person is deliberately lying, but because each is telling the truth based on their perception. (There can be lying, intentional and accidental (aka, "miss-spoke"), but there is side 1, side 2, etc, and then there is the truth. Rarely will we ever see the truth as a whole.)
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On October 18 2012 03:40 theonemav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:38 zefreak wrote:On October 18 2012 03:37 theonemav wrote:On October 18 2012 03:30 deezy wrote:On October 18 2012 03:28 theonemav wrote:On October 18 2012 03:27 zefreak wrote:On October 18 2012 03:25 theonemav wrote:
Wow this interview with Jessica really shows how poor of a leader she is.
Slayers choose not to join the federation, then they get mad when players from the federation don't want to practice with them?
Then bashing almost all of your current and former players, because she recruited the wrong manager and kept a distance from key team members.
Take some accountability for your actions..... You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. I think you are twisting this too much. If you read the article, it points out that some of these things were out of her reach. You can't account for other peoples' actions especially when the ball isn't in your court. If anything, she deserves more respect for protecting the team and their players. If you don't believe in something, why are you going to join them, especially when they are so quick to turn against you without hearing both sides? Twisting what? this is one side of the story (hers) which you can clearly see a lack of leadership on her part. She is basically saying everyone was out to get her and she had no idea why this was happening, which is poor leadership at its core. Also ripping all your players right when they are going to be looking for jobs is really bad form... If what she says is accurate then the players don't deserve jobs Yes I'm sure everyone on the team was terrible and she was an angel and the best leader of all time!!!!! happy now? someone must have a crush rofl...
If what she says is accurate then the players don't deserve jobs
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