EPTEdit: are they still participating in the Master's cup?
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McDrizzle
United States131 Posts
Edit: are they still participating in the Master's cup? | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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theonemav
United States40 Posts
Slayers choose not to join the federation, then they get mad when players from the federation don't want to practice with them? Then bashing almost all of your current and former players, because she recruited the wrong manager and kept a distance from key team members. Take some accountability for your actions..... | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:25 theonemav wrote: Wow this interview with Jessica really shows how poor of a leader she is. Slayers choose not to join the federation, then they get mad when players from the federation don't want to practice with them? Then bashing almost all of your current and former players, because she recruited the wrong manager and kept a distance from key team members. Take some accountability for your actions..... You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault | ||
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theonemav
United States40 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:27 zefreak wrote: You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2975 Posts
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redc
Australia81 Posts
...but dropping a bomb like this at the end when it hasn't worked out? Well done Slayers'Messica | ||
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thundertoss
United States1166 Posts
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deezy
United States30 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:28 theonemav wrote: uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. I think you are twisting this too much. If you read the article, it points out that some of these things were out of her reach. You can't account for other peoples' actions especially when the ball isn't in your court. If anything, she deserves more respect for protecting the team and their players. If you don't believe in something, why are you going to join them, especially when they are so quick to turn against you without hearing both sides? | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:28 theonemav wrote: uh I never said this was her fault... just pointing out this interview really points out her flaws as a leader. By your standards, FXOBoss must be a pretty poor leader too. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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eleaf
526 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:17 LimeNade wrote: Eleaf if you know anything about Boxer's and Jessica then you my friend are an idiot. Yes she can be overly dramatic at times but I have yet to hear her lie with mostly anything when she speaks out especially when its pertained to boxer's career. Most of everything that is said fits and that the players are the main reason this team fell apart because they were ungrateful and selfish brats. Their egos got wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too big for their own good and ended up destroying themselves and the team basically. Anyone who can bash boxer player, team, manager, etc etc etc is in my mind an ungrateful prick. They single handedly destroyed his willingness to want to make a comeback or continue to grow slayers and for that I can never forgive these players. You got me wrong. And actually I'm bashing her because of her ego. I didnt bash Boxer's other players/manager but for Jessica ... I just cant say any good words about her. This girl has been spoiled and never be a team player, in fact he never will. Basically if you got isolated in school, that means you have problem not the whole school. You cant say that 99% of the kids are bad and only your kid is the good boy. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:31 ssxsilver wrote: By your standards, FXOBoss must be a pretty poor leader too. Except FXO still have practice partners. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss? lol, money has been stolen but the problem is a sexist issue. | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:18 Dodgin wrote: I swear Mvp thanked MMA for practicing with him in an interview like a month ago. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367663 Mvp has a lot of pull and reputation, and a lot of the issue was the other way around in that it was hard for SlayerS players to get practice partners while eSF players just called them whenever they wanted to. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
Reading through all of the translated bits, if anything of the "tone" carries through, it sounds a lot like Jessica's previous behavior in style. She is hurt by the things that have gone on (whatever the truth behind them may be), and is sounding somewhat like a distraught mother speaking to a disappointing child. (With overtones of guilt trip laying.) That may not remotely be the case (native Korean speakers probably can say better) but is the impression I get. It seems like SlayerS was really set up in a "family" sense - BoxeR is dad, Jessica is mom, and all the players are their kids. It was an emotional endeavor - but a professional eSports team is not a family. It is a business. There doesn't seem to be separation between how Jessica feels about things and a dispassionate appraisal of business rules or practices. It would be wonderful if a company can be a family, really, but I don't know of any that have worked in that fashion without actually being a blood related family as well. The players are invested in their careers, but Jessica is invested strongly in the team name and appears to act on that basis - the players should love and revere the team and respect BoxeR and Jessica as the "parents". (There is probably a whole crap load of grey area in this, and it's interpretive, so ymmv.) I have no doubt that Jessica is telling the truth as she sees it. However, a wise old guy played by Sir Alec Guinness did once remark to the effect that truth can be subjective, especially where feelings are involved. From a certain point of view, so to speak. I would be interested in hearing more from the other people involved, but I do not think BoxeR will speak on the matter. And no matter what else people are saying with regards to respecting a person's accomplishment, BoxeR is first and foremost an amazing player, and a great coach. I would not endorse him for CEO of a corporation, though. Don't raise him on a pedestal to be worshiped as an idol - he is still a man. (And if you think people can't yell at a respected person they disagree with, you need to meet people with more interesting family lives. Even Medal of Honor recipients get complaints from their kids about bed time, and from what I see of the SlayerS team structure that isn't necessarily a bad comparison.) Of course, I could be wrong. But we might see, if this unfolds further. Sad day, no matter what the truth is - SlayerS was an institution even in the short time they existed. | ||
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Rhine
187 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:27 zefreak wrote: You are doing some real mental gymnastics to somehow make this Jessica's fault We don't know nearly enough about this to make a decision either way. But I think it would be foolish to believe Jessica is innocent whle everyone around her is out to get her. So far, Jessica is saying that everyone is awful, players are rebelling and she doesn't understand why. At the very least it's indicative of massive communication problems and at worst, Jessica has her own part in turning everyone against her. This is especially interesting considering Jessica's harsh personality on view during her multiple public outbursts. I'd wait for a second and third opinion as this whole post looks very one-sided. | ||
Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786 accounts differ significantly | ||
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