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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
 I don't even... seriously what ? I can't help but wonder about Jessica's role. I mean, she said that she cared a lot and that she was completely devoted to make players feel good. But all the players testimony (even in her message) are "I don't feel right about you" "What have you done ?3 etc. etc. My sixth sense is tingling... Something doesn't feel right... Also, poor BoxeR... After all these investments... | ||
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multiversed
United States233 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:56 silent_owl wrote: If someone I trust and pay to help me tried to underhand me in my business, I'd sue the hell outta that person until that person has no money for himself, his father, mother, sons and daughters. i'm going to sue you. | ||
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wildmachine
United States5 Posts
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Arkani
Austria60 Posts
Time was given to Puzzle, Coca and Min to think about their career and they have now switched to League of Legends omg.. puzzle and coca.. 2 of my fav players.. so sad seem to be much drama in korean esports.. | ||
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tyner
176 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Well to be fair, Korea isn't unique in that aspect lol. That's a universal problem. Every week, you hear about a suicide victim of bullying and read an article about it on TL- most of them are from America. Everywhere has prejudice and ignorance and people unfairly ganging up on others, etc. I'm not dismissing the fact that SlayerS was being attacked by other teams. But a bunch of the SlayerS players did dumb things too, independent of that. There's just pretty much a lot of bad things that contributed to the downfall of the team, I'd say. No, it's not the same kind of bullying universally. Bullying in Japan is like what jellyjello described. It's like a group mentality thing, isolate specific people, very sad. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:55 Woizit wrote: When a 18 year old is touted as a "son", I would give it consideration. Imagine a son telling his father that he doesn't trust him. This. Sounds to me like Boxer and Jessica should have kept all of this strictly business. Because they invested so much emotionally they end up hurt like this. And I can't find the post anymore that says that this seems to be about a difference in mentality between generations and I think that's true, to a certain extent. I think it's just a difference of general perspective. Boxer comes from the Kespa side which is all professional and extremely dedicated to working on the game itself. Most ESF players have admitted that they moved to SC2 to relax more. | ||
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Enearde
France265 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:50 docvoc wrote: After reading through Jessica's portrayal I don't believe all of it. I don't know why, but it seems like stuff is missing, there must be a lot that is being left out because right now the narrative makes less than total sense. Probably caused by the translation imo. It's hard to have a perfect understanding of a language if it's not your native one. Especially with Asian languages. Choose to not translate a character because it seems not important but in fact change the entire meaning of the sentence. Might be true that she's leaving some things out because she forgot exactly how it was or lying/making things better for her tho. Anyway, i tend to believe her side of the story at least until i got an other point of view. Boxer leaving the team was a huge tell that something was wrong and i'm sure he would have been angry with Jessica if she was doing something bad. Another proof that managing a team is a fulltime job that takes more than just good will to be done correctly. Teams need to step up and hire qualified people to do that. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
LOL! | ||
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Ventris
Germany1226 Posts
On a side note: Puzzle and CoCa play LoL? Dafuq! | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:52 Latty wrote: jeez i liked slayres, they brought up some damn good players. i should run a sc2 team, damn would that be the best team house atmosphere ever. probably no results but who cares  I supported slayers as a boxer fan and the idea of a team for fun is awesome. Hard to find sponsors though | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Michaels
419 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:56 GunPaladin wrote: Yea, that boycotting Slayers bs is amazing. ESF is it's own worst enemy it seems. I agree with you. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:02 Telcontar wrote: I'm just really disappointed in ESF and whatever they were before that. It just seems like all we have is another Kespa on our hands. I'm actually not familiar with Kespa drama. Did they do anything similar in terms of isolating teams and such? I know they had a lot of drama with Blizzard. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:58 TheLink wrote: MMA crying with the crowd chanting his name at MLG Columbus is still my favourite moment in gaming history. If he believes Jessica was embezzling money then I'm choosing to believe that he had good reason to think so, true or not. Still coming out of this as a big MMA fan. What about the image of Boxer playing the game alone in the gaming hall when everybody has already left? | ||
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
time to hate LoL even more ;; | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:03 canikizu wrote: What about the image of Boxer playing the game alone in the gaming hall when everybody has already left? That image is my freakin' wallpaper. | ||
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:03 canikizu wrote: What about the image of Boxer playing the game alone in the gaming hall when everybody has already left? that one is priceless | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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zestzorb
Thailand776 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:59 silent_owl wrote: This. Sounds to me like Boxer and Jessica should have kept all of this strictly business. Because they invested so much emotionally they end up hurt like this. And I can't find the post anymore that says that this seems to be about a difference in mentality between generations and I think that's true, to a certain extent. I think it's just a difference of general perspective. Boxer comes from the Kespa side which is all professional and extremely dedicated to working on the game itself. Most ESF players have admitted that they moved to SC2 to relax more. I think Boxer modeled Slayers after SKT T1, which went very well. Slayers was doing quite well earlier and there was a nice team atmosphere (remember when they won their first GSTL). Not sure what happened afterwards so it's become like this in the end. Probably a mixture of mismanagement, lack of communication, and inflated egos. | ||
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