EPTIf Korean teams of this profile fall apart due to management issues nobody is likely to be safe.
Unless of course it is a one-off due to Jessica.
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pmp10
3398 Posts
If Korean teams of this profile fall apart due to management issues nobody is likely to be safe. Unless of course it is a one-off due to Jessica. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
except incontrol was in the picture too. justsaiyan (@ work so won't be able to find full image) | ||
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
Out of all the progamers I've met over the years none of them have been as nice and sincere as MMA... I hope all the misunderstandings are cleared up as soon as possible. | ||
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Jintoss
Hong Kong117 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:00 Enearde wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2012 00:50 docvoc wrote: After reading through Jessica's portrayal I don't believe all of it. I don't know why, but it seems like stuff is missing, there must be a lot that is being left out because right now the narrative makes less than total sense. Probably caused by the translation imo. It's hard to have a perfect understanding of a language if it's not your native one. Especially with Asian languages. Choose to not translate a character because it seems not important but in fact change the entire meaning of the sentence. Might be true that she's leaving some things out because she forgot exactly how it was or lying/making things better for her tho. Anyway, i tend to believe her side of the story at least until i got an other point of view. Boxer leaving the team was a huge tell that something was wrong and i'm sure he would have been angry with Jessica if she was doing something bad. Another proof that managing a team is a fulltime job that takes more than just good will to be done correctly. Teams need to step up and hire qualified people to do that. No such thing as qualified people for this kind of managerial role. They are managing a competitive esports team, not a KFC. You hire on relationships and judge of character. Unfortunately the people who appear the most capable and go-getting are usually covering things up and/or have a tendency to put themselves first! I'm going with Jessica's sense at least with manager J. | ||
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algue
France1436 Posts
So sad to here but important to know. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11089 Posts
That said the same community got confused over whether stephano raped a 14yr old so I suppose we should preprare for ESF = KESPA equivocation threads. | ||
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Jebotres
Croatia48 Posts
Im confused >.> | ||
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snorlax1
Singapore233 Posts
Very sorry for off-topic but where can I have that photo please? | ||
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Kohonski
United States150 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:58 TheLink wrote: MMA crying with the crowd chanting his name at MLG Columbus is still my favourite moment in gaming history. If he believes Jessica was embezzling money then I'm choosing to believe that he had good reason to think so, true or not. Still coming out of this as a big MMA fan. I wish we could get the full details on that. I mean he is 23, not to say he is immune to being swayed but I could see the younger players being much more subject to a managers influence than older players. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:06 Clefairy wrote: @LGIMMvp Out of all the progamers I've met over the years none of them have been as nice and sincere as MMA... I hope all the misunderstandings are cleared up as soon as possible. IIRC Mvp thanked MMA for practicing with him for his OSL match with Baby. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I had so much respect for this team. I would never have imagined that all this would happen behind the scenes. I'm seriously at a loss for words. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
Korean e-sports scene is absolutely F***** Up. Seriously. If this is all true, I'm glad I'm not part of that drama. And the whole switching to LoL thing, I can understand I guess. I mean its easier to win as a team than it is to win as an individual. Further, if they can make more money or retain a less hardcore practice schedule and still do well thats fine. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:04 zestzorb wrote: I think Boxer modeled Slayers after SKT T1, which went very well. Slayers was doing quite well earlier and there was a nice team atmosphere (remember when they won their first GSTL). Not sure what happened afterwards so it's become like this in the end. Probably a mixture of mismanagement, lack of communication, and inflated egos. I blame foreign money. Boxer's generation built up the BW proscene from the ground up, it was all or nothing. These SC2 kids, they see players in foreign countries half as good as them making twice the money even though Starcraft is supposedly Korea's game. In that regard it isn't too surprising to see MMA, Alicia and Crank act the way they did. | ||
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Fawkes
Canada1935 Posts
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SaWse
Belgium102 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:56 TeeTS wrote: yeah it definately is. And as allways there will be some truth in it, but also a lot of exaggerations. Especially that bully thing. Maybe there were single examples of Slayers players being bullied. I highly doubt, that eSF orders its teams and players to bully every player on Slayers. There is just simply no reasoning behind it and it would cause major damage to the federation if evidents for it came out. Truth may be revealed in the next days. I definately see a statement from eSF incoming. Let's wait for that. TL and reddit just blame jessica for everything, crank leaving and lying about it? Jessica is upset, guess what it was her fault that he lied. Oh lying is fine? Tell that to orb who lost his job over overly obsessive people because he lied about calling someone else a "nigger". Same shit over and over again, open your eyes blind man. | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
Also, unless there is some sort of statement from MMA, Ganzi and Co. or other slayers players, I can't find myself beliving the whole "Jessica and Boxer are victims"-picture. I don't know if thats just imprecise translation, but them "not liking" that people were "hanging around" MMA sounds like Crank's "Who do you think you are?" was more than justified. Also, Jessica relying on some contracts when shit gets deeply personal is just pathetic. | ||
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frostalgia
United States178 Posts
Since it is so much more popular in Korea right now, this hopefully is not the start of a trend. Otherwise this will be known as the 'Sad 17th' indeed. Really would be nice to see MMA return to glory someday again. He deserves it. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:09 Dodgin wrote: IIRC Mvp thanked MMA for practicing with him for his OSL match with Baby. IMMMA has a nice ring to it. Just sayin'  | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:08 snorlax1 wrote: Very sorry for off-topic but where can I have that photo please? I can try to find it but boxer wasn't alone. The image was cropped to exclude someone else 6 computers down :O | ||
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