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eXaltedVizGG
Profile Joined July 2012
4 Posts
October 21 2012 12:19 GMT
#3481
this shit is getting too out of hand. This either needs stop and make time erase everything or let that tape out and see what really happened.

i'm scared/dissapointed/sad/mad either way.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 21 2012 12:19 GMT
#3482
On October 21 2012 21:17 Hardigan wrote:
ok cool, TB has released his/Crank's statement. Now what? Who should we trust? Who is in the wrong? According to TB, Crank is a sentimental angel who just wanted to save everyone in the Team and according to Jessica, he was exactly the opposite. Until now Jessica has more evidence backing her up and apparently she is still searching for more.

What I am interested in is point 5 that jessica has though. Rumours that has nothing to do with the matter, embezzlement rumours? That's the only rumour that has been sprouting up this week
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 21 2012 12:20 GMT
#3483
Meh, is it me or is Crank's statement pretty weak? :/ I won't say he's wrong or anything, I literally have no idea who's right about that specific part of this drama, but Crank really has nothing except a claim of his own innocence and an attempt to paint himself as a martyr.
Portvilla
Profile Joined October 2012
United States42 Posts
October 21 2012 12:20 GMT
#3484
I don't know much about the whole drama as I've been busy with school and what not, but this is the saddest news I've heard in a long time. They were my first team and only team in SC2. I guess I hope they reunite? But doubt it...

T_T
Have you ever wondered which hurts the most: saying something and wishing you had not, or saying nothing, and wishing you had?.....and yeah all that <3 Yoona + Tiffany shit bla bla bla
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
October 21 2012 12:20 GMT
#3485
lol... I'm not surprised CranK's letter was so weak. Didn't Jessica say so long ago she HAD the entire conversation recorded? And yet CranK proceeded to just say such a weak excuse (like I have expected completely.) Good going TB, you'll probably earn the wrath of the Korean Netizens
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 21 2012 12:21 GMT
#3486
I hope its a sex tape.

It better be for being nearly an hour long.
twitch.tv/medrea
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 21 2012 12:21 GMT
#3487
Should have known better than to put up a weak statement after all the evidence that Jessica has been dishing out. Now she's threatening to release the audio recording. I hope crank knows what hes doing!
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 21 2012 12:23 GMT
#3488
On October 21 2012 21:21 Tachion wrote:
Should have known better than to put up a weak statement after all the evidence that Jessica has been dishing out. Now she's threatening to release the audio recording. I hope crank knows what hes doing!

Since Crank said in his statement that he's perfectly fine with the audio recording being published, my wild guess would be... yes. He does.
lambac0re
Profile Joined August 2011
United States77 Posts
October 21 2012 12:23 GMT
#3489
Crank already said in his statement through TB that he didn't care if Jessica released the recording of his phone call with Jessica/Boxer.
The fact that Jessica is threatening to release an hour long recording means that it's more than the phone call that Crank referenced and that it involves everyone from MMA, to Alicia, to Ryung, and finally Crank.
Anybody else get the feeling that loads of shit has yet to hit the fan?
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 21 2012 12:23 GMT
#3490
I am deeply disappointed in the statement released by TotalBisquit/Axiom/Crank. First of all it's solely an audio recording, even though he's reading it verbatim. Thus a written account must exist. Why is that written account not released to the public, as that's how one should release statements in this situation. While I do applaud your effort for releasing audio, solely it's just not enough.

Secondly, it's solely based on Crank's words. No so called chatlogs or evidence has been released by TotalBisquit which he did allude to earlier. This entire statement is a farce and not nearly enough to dispell any accusations.

Because it's an audio statement it will take me a while to transcript parts of it to respond to, but I'll try to make an effort to show where I feel it's insufficient or simply a faulty thought process.
kanchome
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
44 Posts
October 21 2012 12:24 GMT
#3491
The problem with the Slayers household seems that it was becoming unsalvageable. The results only indicate that the Slayers had the players with the best potential out of all the leagues, but had the worst environment to foster their growth.
Even with all the problems, slayers players were doing decently, which is no surprise since they were pretty much handpicked by Boxer who definitely knows how to pick talent.

I do think it's unfair to pick on Crank, when Crank wasn't the reason why the team was dismantled nor MMA for that matter. They were simply the results of all the troubles that were brewing and the explosion that finally arrived when things were not fixed.
megacrack
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia171 Posts
October 21 2012 12:24 GMT
#3492
On October 21 2012 21:11 megacrack wrote:
this shit is like ultimatum...
ill try and somewhat translate it for now till someone else does it.
im current in Thailand filming with a deadly schedule.
i really wanted to forget and rest
but you dont let me be.
i saw what cranks team had to say.
1.you said you were going to prove that what i wrote in the initial statement was wrong. you have to specify where i got it wrong and you have to prove to your best of abilities.

2. you heard cranks point of view and posted a statement (recording) based on his view, if you didnt do proper research on what is truth and what is wrong and just posted that up, you got to be ready for your consequences.
like the trickster, fruitdealer incident where the team only listened to their players for example.
3.while im at thailand working i double checked the recording between crank, boxer and i that goes for 57 minutes and 48 seconds.
if axiom does not provide proper evidence and keep on pushing that crank is in the wrong, i will provide this recording in front of media, myself and coach cella. if i only small portion of the recording, there maybe people thinking that it may be manipulated, so i will provide the whole file.
4. ill tell you this story has crank and 3 other people involved, truthfully, even the parts that i do not want to show because of the good bond and bad bond ( korean saying) that we had before, will be shown. so for the other people involved i want you to think carefully.
5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously.

i will make sure and as soon as i arrive to korea i will start planning..
i will arrive in korea on monday 8:10am and have another shooting at 10am so i will finish late at night.
i will make adjustments with the journalists for time schduling .
i want to forget everything and forgive, but people cannot see this.
im not doing this because i want to do thi, but im doing the way crank wants it to be.

to whoever can translate this, please send it to cranks team
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 21 2012 12:24 GMT
#3493
If all Jessica threatened with was the recording then you won't hear anything from Crank since he said he had no problem with Jessica releasing it. so it sounds like empty threats from Jessica's side.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 12:26:29
October 21 2012 12:25 GMT
#3494
lol, I still find it funny though. First it was ESF disbanded my team, then out comes Crank,mma,ryung (and who else?) disbanded my team. Wtf...its never about her
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 21 2012 12:26 GMT
#3495
On October 21 2012 21:20 Seraphic wrote:
lol... I'm not surprised CranK's letter was so weak. Didn't Jessica say so long ago she HAD the entire conversation recorded? And yet CranK proceeded to just say such a weak excuse (like I have expected completely.) Good going TB, you'll probably earn the wrath of the Korean Netizens




Already happening... LOL
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 21 2012 12:27 GMT
#3496
On October 21 2012 21:01 farnham wrote:
TB you just got mail from jessica
최재원소속팀에 알려드립니다.



아직도 태국에서 정말 죽음의 일정으로 촬영중인데,,
이젠 정말 모든걸 잊고 쉬고싶었는데...
절 가만두지 않네요.
최재원의 소속팀에서 올린 글 잘보았습니다.

1.제가 슬레이어스팀의 대하여 올릴때 최재원 에 대하여 기술한 부분이 틀리다는
반박 자료를 공개한다고 했는데.
제가 명확히 어느부분은 말한것인지 그 논점에 대해 최대한 반박을 하셔야 할것입니다.

2.현재 최재원의 얘기만 듣고 이를 그대로 올린다는 것인데.
그것이 사실인지 아닌지 그것의 정황여부나 진실 조사없이 올릴경우 팀대 팀으로서의
파장을 감수하셔야할것입다.

서기수 김원기 사건과 같이 사건 파악없이 선수말만 듣고 팀의 입장을 발표했을경우를 예시로 제시합니다.

3.태국에서 일하는 짬짬이 제가 가진 최재원,저 그리고 임요환선수가 통화한 음성파일
57분 48초 짜리를 다시 한번 체크했고
만약 최재원소속팀에서 이번 일에 대한 명확한 자료 제시없이 일방적인 주장을 하게 될경우

이를 매체 기자님들. 저 그리고 연관이 되어있는 홍승표코치 까지 대동한 자리에서 공개하겠습니다.

이 녹음 내용은 일부 편집만 공개할시에 조작의 의혹을 낳을수도 잇으므로

어쩔수없이 전체를 공개할것입니다.

4.미리 말씀 드리면 이 내용은 최재원 외 3명의 얘기가 들어가있으며
사실상 그래도 마지막까지 미운정 고운정때문이라도 조금은 감춰주고싶었던 부분도
함께 공개될것입니다. 함께 하고있는 사람들을 위해서라도 신중한 선택을 하길 바랍니다.

5.최재원의 잘못을 대한 저의 인터뷰 내용과 무관한 제 개인적인 인성이나,,사적인 부분을 들먹이며
이 사건과 무관한 루머를 유포시엔 저의 소속사 차원에서 엄중히 다룰것임을 미리 알려드립니다.

저도 확인하고 서울가는대로 일을 진행할테니
제가 월요일 아침8시10분에 도착하여 바로 10시부터 촬영이라 밤 늦게 끝납니다.
기자님들 스케줄을 조정하여 빠른시간 내에 처리하도록 하겠습니다.

정말 모든것 잊고 용서하고 떠나려는 제 마음을 이리도 몰라주는지 답답하지만
저도 이건 제가 원해서가 아니라
최재원이 선택하는 방향에 맞춰 하겠습니다.



이글을 번역이 되시는 분은 최재원 소속팀 쪽으로 전달 좀 해주셨으면 합니다.


I am currently shooting in Thailand so its hard to respond. I wanted to close all this but they are not leaving me alone. I have seent he statement of Axiom and crank.

1. I heard that you will give us proof that my accusations where wrong. Please specify where I was wrong.

2. I believe you just heard what Crank said and posted it. If you did not investigate the situation this is a team to team matter. Same as the Trickster, Fruit Dealer situation, if there is no investigation and only a team statement that only bases on the players words.

3. i have a audio file that is 57 minutes and 48 seconds long. I have checked the file over and over again. i will publish this if you dont give us the proof of your one sided accusations in front of journalists and Cella. I will have to disclose the whole file since partial disclosure will lead to misunderstandings.

4. This file contains background about crank, mma, alici and ryung. i did not want to disclose this since I do still have feelings ("정" hard to translate) for them. please select the best way for the people you are with.

5. i will also have to warn you that you we will not tolerate rumors that have nothing to do witht he matter.

I will be finished with the shooting monday night. I will do this as fast as I can. I wanted to finish this as is but crank seems to want more.

"I will publish an audio recording that will hurt third parties (MMA, Alicia, Ryung) unless you do exactly as I say. And it'll be totally your fault because you dared to respond to my accusations."

Wow. Just wow.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 21 2012 12:28 GMT
#3497
TB is a pretty fiery dude, liable to be provoked into flaming pretty hard. I can see this getting pretty nasty between him and Jessica because you know she's not going to back down.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 21 2012 12:29 GMT
#3498
On October 21 2012 21:27 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 21:01 farnham wrote:
TB you just got mail from jessica
최재원소속팀에 알려드립니다.



아직도 태국에서 정말 죽음의 일정으로 촬영중인데,,
이젠 정말 모든걸 잊고 쉬고싶었는데...
절 가만두지 않네요.
최재원의 소속팀에서 올린 글 잘보았습니다.

1.제가 슬레이어스팀의 대하여 올릴때 최재원 에 대하여 기술한 부분이 틀리다는
반박 자료를 공개한다고 했는데.
제가 명확히 어느부분은 말한것인지 그 논점에 대해 최대한 반박을 하셔야 할것입니다.

2.현재 최재원의 얘기만 듣고 이를 그대로 올린다는 것인데.
그것이 사실인지 아닌지 그것의 정황여부나 진실 조사없이 올릴경우 팀대 팀으로서의
파장을 감수하셔야할것입다.

서기수 김원기 사건과 같이 사건 파악없이 선수말만 듣고 팀의 입장을 발표했을경우를 예시로 제시합니다.

3.태국에서 일하는 짬짬이 제가 가진 최재원,저 그리고 임요환선수가 통화한 음성파일
57분 48초 짜리를 다시 한번 체크했고
만약 최재원소속팀에서 이번 일에 대한 명확한 자료 제시없이 일방적인 주장을 하게 될경우

이를 매체 기자님들. 저 그리고 연관이 되어있는 홍승표코치 까지 대동한 자리에서 공개하겠습니다.

이 녹음 내용은 일부 편집만 공개할시에 조작의 의혹을 낳을수도 잇으므로

어쩔수없이 전체를 공개할것입니다.

4.미리 말씀 드리면 이 내용은 최재원 외 3명의 얘기가 들어가있으며
사실상 그래도 마지막까지 미운정 고운정때문이라도 조금은 감춰주고싶었던 부분도
함께 공개될것입니다. 함께 하고있는 사람들을 위해서라도 신중한 선택을 하길 바랍니다.

5.최재원의 잘못을 대한 저의 인터뷰 내용과 무관한 제 개인적인 인성이나,,사적인 부분을 들먹이며
이 사건과 무관한 루머를 유포시엔 저의 소속사 차원에서 엄중히 다룰것임을 미리 알려드립니다.

저도 확인하고 서울가는대로 일을 진행할테니
제가 월요일 아침8시10분에 도착하여 바로 10시부터 촬영이라 밤 늦게 끝납니다.
기자님들 스케줄을 조정하여 빠른시간 내에 처리하도록 하겠습니다.

정말 모든것 잊고 용서하고 떠나려는 제 마음을 이리도 몰라주는지 답답하지만
저도 이건 제가 원해서가 아니라
최재원이 선택하는 방향에 맞춰 하겠습니다.



이글을 번역이 되시는 분은 최재원 소속팀 쪽으로 전달 좀 해주셨으면 합니다.


I am currently shooting in Thailand so its hard to respond. I wanted to close all this but they are not leaving me alone. I have seent he statement of Axiom and crank.

1. I heard that you will give us proof that my accusations where wrong. Please specify where I was wrong.

2. I believe you just heard what Crank said and posted it. If you did not investigate the situation this is a team to team matter. Same as the Trickster, Fruit Dealer situation, if there is no investigation and only a team statement that only bases on the players words.

3. i have a audio file that is 57 minutes and 48 seconds long. I have checked the file over and over again. i will publish this if you dont give us the proof of your one sided accusations in front of journalists and Cella. I will have to disclose the whole file since partial disclosure will lead to misunderstandings.

4. This file contains background about crank, mma, alici and ryung. i did not want to disclose this since I do still have feelings ("정" hard to translate) for them. please select the best way for the people you are with.

5. i will also have to warn you that you we will not tolerate rumors that have nothing to do witht he matter.

I will be finished with the shooting monday night. I will do this as fast as I can. I wanted to finish this as is but crank seems to want more.

"I will publish an audio recording that will hurt third parties (MMA, Alicia, Ryung) unless you do exactly as I say. And it'll be totally your fault because you dared to respond to my accusations."

Wow. Just wow.

Aka, keep your mouth shut, even if you don't fear the audio recording it can destroy 3 other people.
Isn't this intimidation? my goodness..
malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 12:33:30
October 21 2012 12:29 GMT
#3499
whats with all the voice recordings and secret calls?

wtf is this the watergate scandal of sc2? :/

so pathetic! just let the team die and get on with life.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 12:30:53
October 21 2012 12:30 GMT
#3500
On October 21 2012 21:29 malaan wrote:
whats with all the voice recordings and secret calls?

wtf is this the watergate scandal of sc2? :/

so pathetic! just let the team die and get on with life

Ahhh...might want to edit out the part I backspaced for you dude...bashing will get you banned here
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