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Ramone
Canada85 Posts
If you had/have an issue with the way Eclypsia is doing things, there's better ways than making a public message on TL calling them cheaters...You could raise a discussion and probably even contact Eclypsia directly. Eclypsia meme competition was stupid though, glad someone got fired over that...the april fools thing was blown wayyy out of proporation by some touchy people around here though. I personally found that kinda funny. Cheers, Ramone | ||
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Iblis
904 Posts
Now that the SC2 community is reluctant to associate with them or even look at their stream or contents, they are trying to get a higher base of viewers for their contents even if the target audience has no interest in what they offer. Most of this audience will not invest time in the gaming community and even less in the SC2 community in the long run. But EC doesn't care they just want to artificially boost their "look how much people are interested in us numbers" so that they can maybe score some audience from people not knowing EC or how they do what they do and their history. Numbers of views, subscribers, and interest from the public is EVERYTHING internet wise, what would prevent to use the numbers they bought to advertise themselves to sponsors or get help to organize events that they would represent. The last thing I want to see is a company that doesn't care about players, tournament or engagements they talk about and is just on the Esport scene to try to make profit no matter what means they can use. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On October 11 2012 03:11 heyoka wrote: Anyone able to do a proper translation of the EC statement? I'd be interested in seeing what they said in a way that was closer to the source. I wasn't able to find it on the aAa website (boolean errors) or on the Eclypsia website period. I can give it a shot if I can find it. Although if that Google translate is any indication its mostly fluff. I just want to see if they mentioned daily motion anywhere in the release since they're the only ones that matter when it comes to the implications for the advertiser. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 11 2012 03:40 howLiN wrote: This is actually a pretty cool marketing strategy. People are really just flipping their shit because it's Eclypsia. It isnt marketing if nobody sees what youre marketing. It is fraud. | ||
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swtchrt
France9 Posts
On October 11 2012 03:40 howLiN wrote: This is actually a pretty cool marketing strategy. People are really just flipping their shit because it's Eclypsia. Indeed. Since the departure of fan-favorites like Desrow and Scarlett people hate Eclypsia for anything they do. You have to know that Eclypsia is a team run by people who have no experience and no knowledge of e-sports, hence a lot of stupid moves, but there's nothing shady about them. | ||
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bonse
125 Posts
On October 11 2012 03:47 TheRabidDeer wrote: It isnt marketing if nobody sees what youre marketing. It is fraud. You just said a couple of posts above that the stream is "visible" so why now you say that nobody sees the stream? | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On October 11 2012 03:40 howLiN wrote: This is actually a pretty cool marketing strategy. People are really just flipping their shit because it's Eclypsia. true, if this was EG people would be all "oh great marketing once again EG, more teams need to do this etc" | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On October 11 2012 03:47 TheRabidDeer wrote: It isnt marketing if nobody sees what youre marketing. It is fraud. you mean like every advertisement on every website? :D | ||
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TapetalKarma
United States127 Posts
ITS NOT SMART ITS NOT OKAY and they will pay for it for sure. User was warned for this post | ||
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Orzabal
France287 Posts
Whereas I am not on their website and not interested in their stream, I count for one viewer. Neither dailymotions, nor annoncers /sponsors (who paid Eclypsia, according to the number of their viewers) know that. It pretty seems to be cheating to me. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On October 11 2012 04:11 TapetalKarma wrote: people saying this isnt bad or its good marketing are RETARDED this is fraud its ILLEGAL ITS NOT SMART ITS NOT OKAY and they will pay for it for sure. how is it fraud? | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On October 11 2012 04:12 Orzabal wrote: Ok so if I go on one of this websites to see for exemple funny video, there is a "commercial" of eclypsia running their stream. (it would be not visible for adbloker users) Whereas I am not on their website and not interested in their stream, I count for one viewer. Neither dailymotions, nor annoncers /sponsors (who paid Eclypsia, according to the number of their viewers) know that. It pretty seems to be cheating to me. You need to learn to read We have done with the agreement of our distribution platform, and advertisers. | ||
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britneysbeers
United Kingdom22 Posts
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
That's assuming the advertisers really did know. If not then hit inflation is fraud, much like click fraud. | ||
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Rataplan
Netherlands109 Posts
On October 11 2012 04:11 TapetalKarma wrote: people saying this isnt bad or its good marketing are RETARDED this is fraud its ILLEGAL ITS NOT SMART ITS NOT OKAY and they will pay for it for sure. I don't know much about advertisement and all the rules that are involved with it. So can you please explain to me why this is fraud and why this is so much different from any other ad on websites (expect that this one is a stream instead of a picture). In my eyes this is just a way (maybe not the best) to expose your team to a bigger audience, and so also your team, sponsors and e-Sports as a whole. I just don't see what is wrong with it. And, We have done with the agreement of our distribution platform, and advertisers | ||
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