EPTSons of Starcraft. UPDATED Oct 9/14 - Page 39
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On November 17 2013 11:20 Thrillz wrote: iirc, the kickstarter deadline was approaching to the end so he had to spot around 2k himself to ensure the goal was met. Otherwise I'm not aware of any other huge debt gone into the production? Dunno, I saw a reddit post about it. Not the best source I know.  | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On November 17 2013 11:25 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Smash was also nine years of footage for a community you know nothing about, not a retrospective on the careers of two of the most well-known figures in esports. Yea but was that what we got? an interview complication where the only question basically was "talk about tastosis" and just ask everyone in the scene. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On November 17 2013 11:25 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Smash was also nine years of footage for a community you know nothing about, not a retrospective on the careers of two of the most well-known figures in esports. But there are years of footage from the old days of SC/Tasteless/Artosis as well? Where's the history or direction? The first one looked like a glorified vblog with repeated elevator music. I hope the others are better and they actually kick up the pace and content...but... | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Final verdict: If you expect something mind blowing and ground breaking, well take a walk. However if you are massive fanboy of Tastosis, then you might enjoy it. | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:10 Wedge wrote: Ugh, this was shit. And the sad thing, is that nobody is surprised. Kudos to everyone recommending that Smash documentary, which seemed so much more like a true labor of love, and one in which you can truly feel the directors love and appreciation for the game. Hell, I dont even play Smash nor know anything about its community or its icons yet I was glued to my screen and loved the narrative and story lines that the Documentary covered. I want to say I'm disappointed in SoS, but I cant say I am. Another great example of someone exploiting the community in the name of Esports and promising big things and horribly under delivering. I knew nothing about the Smash scene or the game (never played it) but that's why the Smash doc was so good. It was riveting. You learned the history of the game, the players the scene, etc, so much so that I wanted to be *in* that scene when it was over. I fully expected SoS to have that same feel. To start in the present and quickly introduce Tastosis and why they are important, and then to flash back to the very beginning and tell each individual story in full and how they came together in the end to be so dominant. Instead we just get a bunch of interviews saying how great SC is, over and over, for the first 20 mins, and then we breeze through both of their Brood War careers in 5 mins. The music does not help matters. Nor does the editing or the interviews. The lack of any real depth here is disturbing. Any newcomer to the SC scene would have no idea WTF this was really even supposed to be about. At a certain point both these guys need to be careful as stuff like this is tarnishing their brand. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
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Fearest
854 Posts
edit: The film making crew could have made MUCH more money if they released this documentary on time with great quality. It could very well define their film making career. The community would've fund another project, but I guess 40k made you guys blind. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On November 17 2013 14:11 Klipsys wrote: I have no idea what people are talking about. This is fine. It's fine if it is just some independent project or something that someone did in their spare time. But considering the amount of money placed into it,the advertising, and how long it took... it is wildly disappointing. Just compare to some of the other recent gaming docs. They better hit the other parts out of the park...because people seriously need to stop throwing money at these type of things and having out of world expectations without some evidence of credentials. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On November 17 2013 08:54 Conti wrote: The recent EG documentary is pretty damn good. Oooh. The huk one? Ok i'l check it out. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On November 17 2013 09:03 haffy wrote: Has anyone showed this to friends who don't really follow Starcraft? Because I think the most interesting part of documentaries are when you get an insight into a world you don't know much about or previously had no interest, or a passing interest at best. I'm not really too surprised that people in the Starcraft community aren't particularly pleased by it, because the main personality's in this are pretty damn well known at this point. Personally I haven't even bothered to watch it yet because I know quite a bit about Artosis, Day9 and Tasteless already. I'm more interested in what other gaming communities have to say about the documentary specifically ones that aren't really into E-sports like Dota and LoL etc, more traditional outlets like IGN and Giantbomb. Edit: 420th post blaze up yo See, this is one of the problems in my opinion. The "documentary" (I actually think a documentary shouldn't be a commercial, but let's skip that part) seems to be aiming for the complete outsider who has never even heard of eSports or Starcraft, Starcraft 2, etc. yet we can be pretty sure (I think) that the very main audience will be Starcraft 2 fans /Tastosis fans who already are familiar with the topic, and so far I think most of them got bored with shallow information that they already knew about. It's quite a dilemma to me, because so far Sons of Starcraft seems to be aiming towards a tiny percentage of the audience, the outsider, while the audience that financed this project might be somewhat disappointed. Let's not forget that this was only part 1, so I'm hopeful that the later episodes, now that we got an introduction to the topic, will go more in depth.  | ||
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
On November 17 2013 18:10 UmberBane wrote: See, this is one of the problems in my opinion. The "documentary" (I actually think a documentary shouldn't be a commercial, but let's skip that part) seems to be aiming for the complete outsider who has never even heard of eSports or Starcraft, Starcraft 2, etc. yet we can be pretty sure (I think) that the very main audience will be Starcraft 2 fans /Tastosis fans who already are familiar with the topic If they were aiming it at complete outsiders they need to explain starcraft more than "its the hardest best game ever just trust me on this its amazing dont touch it if you arent good at it" , as others have said the opening minutes of the smash doc does a great job of this - it explains the game first at its most base levels, then goes into more detail later. | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
Calm down the judgment. | ||
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Account252508
3454 Posts
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On November 17 2013 19:27 Nuclease wrote: JESUS, people. Y'all are flipping out over this documentary and you haven't even seen more than a quarter of it. Calm down the judgment. If you saw 1/4 of a pile of shit on the road, I'm sure you would be fine judging it before seeing the other 3/4. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
to all those who didnt watch it yet: please do so. OT: "He has never done anything like this before therefore you can expect it to be bad" while that may be true, it is still allowed for people to call it bad. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
And also, what did people expect? It's good to be optimistic, but many of you paid lots of money to people that have never made a documentary before, and expect to get a BBC-quality documentary. Hopefully this teaches some people about why they shouldn't support Kickstarter-projects. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
How do you get this outside of Canada? | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 17 2013 20:26 Arnstein wrote: Where can I find the Smash Bros documentary? . http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoUHkRwnRH-KTCH3tJ9WvsWWPEgUu-y6d | ||
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