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Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 16:21:29
November 16 2013 16:20 GMT
#721
This is worse than a generic kids first attempts at cutting something together in an intro to video production class.

I honestly think there was zero story boarding done for this. The guy just filmed a bunch of bullshit while out on his joyride and then cut it together in the most haphazard way possible.
EnvyUK
Profile Joined September 2011
England467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 16:31:15
November 16 2013 16:30 GMT
#722
On November 16 2013 21:47 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:40 Hider wrote:
On November 16 2013 21:34 Conti wrote:
On November 16 2013 21:09 Hider wrote:
What I don't understand after having watched the first episode of the Smart Brothers, is why he didn't just copy the introduction formula from that episode? That does a fantastic job of introducing an outsider to the game and show them why it is beutiful. Did Alejos really think that people were interested in being told by a series of random persons multiple times that Starcraft was beutiful and a fantastic game?

Probably because by the time the other documentary came out, he was already long done with his intro, and redoing it completely would only have delayed things even more.


Oh yeh just discovered the Smash brothers documentary was just released this october.


First part of the documentary was released earlier if i recall right. It was a showcase piece to show the community/backers what its going to be like.

I actually need to check if i remember right. They discussed it on Lo3.

e. So it was a "pilot episode" the creator made for the kickstarter. Sorry for misinformation.

VoD of the interview with the producer. http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/c/3095788 (Slasher Asks about the production, making of the film etc ~1:02:45. Answer about Kickstarter/Pilot ~1:04:25)


From that interview it sounds like the documentary cost him around $15,000 to make, and he said that 2 years was enough time.
captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
November 16 2013 18:51 GMT
#723
First part was pretty legit... idk what everyone was expecting, like the 2nd coming christ or something.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 16 2013 19:01 GMT
#724
The smash bros documentary was pure amazing. As mentioned, I watched it several years back but so much emotions and so captivating. Haven't seen this yet to compare the two but it doesn't sound too good so far lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
November 16 2013 19:48 GMT
#725
On November 17 2013 04:01 BigFan wrote:
The smash bros documentary was pure amazing. As mentioned, I watched it several years back but so much emotions and so captivating. Haven't seen this yet to compare the two but it doesn't sound too good so far lol


The smash bros documentary that came out a month ago you saw several years ago?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 16 2013 19:55 GMT
#726
On November 17 2013 00:30 figq wrote:
Wow, reddit is pooping on this so hard... I feel like a complete idiot now for actually enjoying it A LOT, perhaps the most I've enjoyed a SC2-related documentary so far. I even loved the music, something must be terribly wrong with me apparently.

Anyway, keep up the good work, stay strong and looking forward to the next episodes. Oh and it touched me emotionally too, which seems to be the biggest issue reddits are bitching about. I have to admit that even tears were shed. So good.

Yeah, I'm with you there. But it may just be because I just like Artosis and Tasteless, haha :D
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 16 2013 20:20 GMT
#727
On November 17 2013 04:48 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:01 BigFan wrote:
The smash bros documentary was pure amazing. As mentioned, I watched it several years back but so much emotions and so captivating. Haven't seen this yet to compare the two but it doesn't sound too good so far lol


The smash bros documentary that came out a month ago you saw several years ago?

can't be the same one, it wasn't even fully started until nov 2011
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
November 16 2013 20:21 GMT
#728
documentary is not as bad as people are making it out to be, though it does have its issues.

dat 18 minute background music though... ~_~
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 21:41:19
November 16 2013 21:40 GMT
#729
So I know how the production cycle works in this line of business and a 30 minute sneak peak in 2 years is kind of disgusting to me. In 2 years I expect a full length 2 hour documentary fully polished and ready to be shown at multiple film shows AND probably winning awards. The next "parts" better be rolling out briskly. I feel sorry for everyone that donated to this kickstarter.

edit: That being said the first 30 minutes wasn't bad.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 22:03:10
November 16 2013 22:02 GMT
#730
This is like when you have a big project to do in school that you have like the entire semester to complete and you do it all the night before it's due. Except they've done one quarter of it the night before and they didn't even do a good job on that. And also people donated money to them to do the project. So this is a really bad analogy unless the project was to make a documentary
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 16 2013 22:12 GMT
#731
On November 17 2013 06:40 iSiN wrote:
So I know how the production cycle works in this line of business and a 30 minute sneak peak in 2 years is kind of disgusting to me. In 2 years I expect a full length 2 hour documentary fully polished and ready to be shown at multiple film shows AND probably winning awards. The next "parts" better be rolling out briskly. I feel sorry for everyone that donated to this kickstarter.

edit: That being said the first 30 minutes wasn't bad.

And in 2 years you will get the full length documentary. It's downright adorable how some people have issues with waiting a week when they've been waiting for over a full year already.

Complain about the documentary all you like. Complain about the delays, complain about the quality, whatever. You probably have a good point doing that. But that they're not showing it all in one go and make you wait a week per 'episode'? Complain about that, and you're just looking for something to complain about at this point.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
November 16 2013 22:25 GMT
#732
Not a good documentary, but isn't that bad either. The problem is that the community is pissed because of the drama stuff surrounding this project, and this is influencing how people are judging it.
YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
November 16 2013 22:32 GMT
#733
What I imagined: Seeing tasteless and artosis at home in their daily life, hard working, lost in tanslation, showing their passion about the game and how they sacrificed everything to get there.

What I got: Tasteless playing street fighter and how tastosis are great and all and Esports Esports Esports Starcraft Hard for masterminds, Esports and more circlejerking and more Esports.
Fun things are fun
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 16 2013 22:34 GMT
#734
Have it been discussed if he's making money from partnering up with Ongamers?
If it's a distribution deal I don't get why BitTorrent or Youtube could have been used instead.
The curse is real
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
November 16 2013 22:37 GMT
#735
On November 17 2013 05:20 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:48 Chaggi wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:01 BigFan wrote:
The smash bros documentary was pure amazing. As mentioned, I watched it several years back but so much emotions and so captivating. Haven't seen this yet to compare the two but it doesn't sound too good so far lol


The smash bros documentary that came out a month ago you saw several years ago?

can't be the same one, it wasn't even fully started until nov 2011


Having followed both communities, the Smash Bros doc blows this out of the water. But that one had my full confidence so was I willing to put my money to donate. People are saying you can't compare the two, but SoS had clear red flags to begin with, which is why people were justified in being skeptical.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11104 Posts
November 16 2013 22:39 GMT
#736
Kinda sad. The community and game has been screaming for a good documentary they can take and drop on their friends and persuade them to check it out. Something like Indie game the movie or that King of Kong documentary. Both times "branded" backstoppers of unknowns have kinda disappointed with putting their brand behind inferior products.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 16 2013 22:42 GMT
#737
On November 17 2013 04:48 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:01 BigFan wrote:
The smash bros documentary was pure amazing. As mentioned, I watched it several years back but so much emotions and so captivating. Haven't seen this yet to compare the two but it doesn't sound too good so far lol


The smash bros documentary that came out a month ago you saw several years ago?

oh oops missed the doc name ><; I was actually talking about the Donkey kong one lol, my bad.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
November 16 2013 22:42 GMT
#738
On November 17 2013 01:20 Snorkle wrote:
This is worse than a generic kids first attempts at cutting something together in an intro to video production class.

I honestly think there was zero story boarding done for this. The guy just filmed a bunch of bullshit while out on his joyride and then cut it together in the most haphazard way possible.


Unfortunately I'd have to agree that this is probably the gross truth, especially after seeing what Travis B. was able to do with The Smash Bros documentary with only 9k in donations. This is just a bunch of interviews clumsily mashed together with sappy music and random clips in the background. There is no organization, no direction, and no overarching theme; nor did I learn anything new about Tastosis. Artosis came off as kind of annoying in some of the clips as he was following Tasteless around babbling.

Can't say I expected much in any case...Hopefully it gets better...
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 16 2013 22:56 GMT
#739
On November 17 2013 07:25 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Not a good documentary, but isn't that bad either. The problem is that the community is pissed because of the drama stuff surrounding this project, and this is influencing how people are judging it.

Oh come on that is a piss poor excuse. Does people being pissed off changed all the awesome content in nothing else then interview after interview? Does people being pissed off changed all the great music and sound into a bad audio with 25min elevator music that drowns out the people talking sometimes?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 23:27:33
November 16 2013 23:25 GMT
#740
On November 17 2013 07:32 YuiHirasawa wrote:
What I imagined: Seeing tasteless and artosis at home in their daily life, hard working, lost in tanslation, showing their passion about the game and how they sacrificed everything to get there.

What I got: Tasteless playing street fighter and how tastosis are great and all and Esports Esports Esports Starcraft Hard for masterminds, Esports and more circlejerking and more Esports.


You seem to forget that there is three more parts coming. Trust me, most of who were disappointed -- wants something else than 'circlejerk' about e-sprots and whatever we already got, but don't count everything out just yet.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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