On October 05 2012 23:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:
OMG, that is so awesome, became an instant fan of TOP because of this! :D
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Zvenn3n
Sweden1196 Posts
On October 05 2012 23:19 NovemberstOrm wrote: OMG, that is so awesome, became an instant fan of TOP because of this! :D | ||
Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On October 06 2012 00:56 Bumblebee wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote: On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote: Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam. Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious. Can sb tell me what is he talking about? DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast. Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. User was warned for this post | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Gogo Sleep, NightEnd, TOP, TLO! | ||
Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:49 Kabras wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 00:56 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote: On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote: Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam. Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious. Can sb tell me what is he talking about? DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast. Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. Illegally scamming money is kind of serious mr. fanboy... | ||
Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:52 Whatson wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 02:49 Kabras wrote: On October 06 2012 00:56 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote: On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote: Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam. Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious. Can sb tell me what is he talking about? DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast. Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. Illegally scamming money is kind of serious mr. fanboy... I agree, but it was actually veralynn who scammed for money. And you can't count the invite tournaments as "scamming" since it wasn't an all-girl tournament or something like that. He took out seriously good players to win said money so to me, it sounds fair. The fact that VeraLynn actually decided to piggy-back and charge for coaching is pretty scummy, I totally agree with penalties for that, but I'm not sure that DA had any part of that. Either way, throwing words like Jail and Fraud around is silly. This isn't a legalized activity, I doubt Idra or whoever else does coaching pays taxes for it, so please, let's not get ahead of ourselves, okay? ![]() | ||
Mackus
England1681 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:43 Manimal_pro wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 02:33 CuteZergling wrote: This thread has been strange to read. It's weird to me that people would defend fraud. no one has the authority to actually do something to DeathAngel for his shenanigans, he will be in all EU tournaments in the future as well. I suppose kennygyt gave him a permaban on the forum but that's pretty much it You'd atleast think Tournament organisers would have the dignity to suspend them, if this were a Korean player I'm pretty sure ESF or Kespa would disown them. I can't believe there's people within this game who defend players who go against the law and commit a criminal act, I'm gonna sound pretty blunt but they're as scum as the ones who commit the offence and that they're allowed to freely mouth off their stupid biased opinions actually hurts the scene | ||
renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 02:34 renaissanceMAN wrote: On October 06 2012 02:20 trekala wrote: I wish ppl would talk about deathangel-veralynn in the dedicated thread.... I for one am very exited about this event and will definitely attend. All this talk about the fraud incident is bringing a negative vibe to the tournament when it actualy has nothing to do with Dreamhack. on topic, I was hoping Sea would attend. Could have been a good tournament for him to start in sc2. Nothing to do with Dreamhack? Except for everything involving the fact that a player who committed fraud was invited to the tournament. If you're going to defend your countryman at least have reasoning that stands on its own... He was not invited, it is an open tournament with first 64 guys, who sign up, being able to play. Dreamhack does´nt invite players. He's still in the tournament, invited or not. | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:56 CubEdIn wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 02:52 Whatson wrote: On October 06 2012 02:49 Kabras wrote: On October 06 2012 00:56 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote: On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote: Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam. Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious. Can sb tell me what is he talking about? DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast. Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. Illegally scamming money is kind of serious mr. fanboy... I agree, but it was actually veralynn who scammed for money. And you can't count the invite tournaments as "scamming" since it wasn't an all-girl tournament or something like that. He took out seriously good players to win said money so to me, it sounds fair. The fact that VeraLynn actually decided to piggy-back and charge for coaching is pretty scummy, I totally agree with penalties for that, but I'm not sure that DA had any part of that. Either way, throwing words like Jail and Fraud around is silly. This isn't a legalized activity, I doubt Idra or whoever else does coaching pays taxes for it, so please, let's not get ahead of ourselves, okay? ![]() I doubt coaches don't pay taxes. That is actually retarded, these teams have a lot of money (thinking of EG right now since we're talking IdrA) and if they are paying their employees (the players) under the table and it gets found out they get fucked by the government. I doubt that the team managers are dumb enough to leave themselves open by allowing their players to earn an untaxed income. | ||
renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:49 Kabras wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 00:56 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote: On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote: Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam. Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious. Can sb tell me what is he talking about? DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast. Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. troll alert or you're just oblivious. google fraud. | ||
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:49 Kabras wrote: Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. On October 06 2012 02:56 CubEdIn wrote: I agree, but it was actually veralynn who scammed for money. And you can't count the invite tournaments as "scamming" since it wasn't an all-girl tournament or something like that. He took out seriously good players to win said money so to me, it sounds fair. The fact that VeraLynn actually decided to piggy-back and charge for coaching is pretty scummy, I totally agree with penalties for that, but I'm not sure that DA had any part of that. Either way, throwing words like Jail and Fraud around is silly. This isn't a legalized activity, I doubt Idra or whoever else does coaching pays taxes for it, so please, let's not get ahead of ourselves, okay? ![]() This thread is taking a turn for the worst. It is pretty unfortunate that you two don't know any of the details about the subject when your countryman committed fraud. And let's try to keep other player's name out of this, especially listing players who never cheated together with players who admitted to frauding and or hacking. | ||
Thug[ro]
Romania340 Posts
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:56 CubEdIn wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 02:52 Whatson wrote: On October 06 2012 02:49 Kabras wrote: On October 06 2012 00:56 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote: On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote: On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote: Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam. Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious. Can sb tell me what is he talking about? DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast. Not to sound like a fanboy but i don't see this being such a big deal. I thought he cheated in a match, like Spades did or some shit. So he posed as as a girl on her stream? ROFL, the drama lovers on TL really put reddit to shame. Jesus, will you people loosen up a little? IdrA, Orb, Spades, Destiny and probably many others did a lot more seriously offensive crap and never had any REAL problems. On the contrary, idra and destiny got 90% of their fans only because of retarded drama. And even if he gets sued (lmao) i don't see any court taking this shit seriously, unless maybe the stream owner is the one that sues him. Have to say i'm really disappointed in TL, so much useless drama over nothing. Yea, nothing! Fuckin grow up already. Illegally scamming money is kind of serious mr. fanboy... I agree, but it was actually veralynn who scammed for money. And you can't count the invite tournaments as "scamming" since it wasn't an all-girl tournament or something like that. He took out seriously good players to win said money so to me, it sounds fair. The fact that VeraLynn actually decided to piggy-back and charge for coaching is pretty scummy, I totally agree with penalties for that, but I'm not sure that DA had any part of that. Either way, throwing words like Jail and Fraud around is silly. This isn't a legalized activity, I doubt Idra or whoever else does coaching pays taxes for it, so please, let's not get ahead of ourselves, okay? ![]() No but if you don't apply for self-employment you don't receive a pension. Money doesn't come free, stop talking about what you don't know. | ||
kuan888
Canada305 Posts
On October 06 2012 00:56 Waxangel wrote: I wonder what team the ex-oGs guys and Sleep joined that hasn't been announced yet Team MarN !! | ||
Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On October 06 2012 02:58 renaissanceMAN wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote: On October 06 2012 02:34 renaissanceMAN wrote: On October 06 2012 02:20 trekala wrote: I wish ppl would talk about deathangel-veralynn in the dedicated thread.... I for one am very exited about this event and will definitely attend. All this talk about the fraud incident is bringing a negative vibe to the tournament when it actualy has nothing to do with Dreamhack. on topic, I was hoping Sea would attend. Could have been a good tournament for him to start in sc2. Nothing to do with Dreamhack? Except for everything involving the fact that a player who committed fraud was invited to the tournament. If you're going to defend your countryman at least have reasoning that stands on its own... He was not invited, it is an open tournament with first 64 guys, who sign up, being able to play. Dreamhack does´nt invite players. He's still in the tournament, invited or not. Because he signed up. There is a big difference in inviting someone and him being tolerated. The former would seem wrong so short after, the ladder does´nt, considering the incident has nothing to do with Dreamhack. | ||
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