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[Interview] Code S RO8 Day 1 2012 GSL Season 4

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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 15:15:23
October 03 2012 12:27 GMT
#1
(P)SKTelecomT1_Rain

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Source: This Is Game

I would like to hear your thoughts on reaching the semifinals of both the GSL and the OSL.

I wasn't sure that I would win today, so I'm amazed that I won 3-0. I'm even surprised myself. I've reached the semifinals of both leagues, but instead of trying to grasp straight for a championship, my initial goal is to reach the finals of at least one of the two tournaments.

You've been called the top KeSPA Protoss.

I still think it's too early to say that. I would like people to call me that after I win something (laughs).

PvP is called a matchup where victory and defeat are decided by build orders.

Build orders are especially important in PvP. If you're at a build order disadvantage, you can lose even to an amateur. I feel that my win rate is so good because I'm good at choosing my builds based on the situation at hand.

How did you prepare for your match against HerO today?

I wanted to practice on ladder, but because it was Chuseok, I was being put up against masters. But still, I couldn't let my hands get stiff, so I made sure to play one or two games, and I focused on image training by watching VODs of HerO's games.

The community is abuzz with talk about your talents. I'm curious to hear about your thoughts about this.

I'm winning today, but I don't see that as a guarantee that I'll keep winning in the future. I think that my performance is due to 30% talent and 70% effort. All players practice during the same period of time, but each player spends that time in a different way, and I feel that that's where differences in player skill emerge. BW and SC2 require different sets of talents, and I think I'm showing such good results because SC2 is more appropriate for me (laughs).

You're very good at engaging while at max supply. Is your performance in this regard a product of practice?

I do think my results are because of practice. I don't think about it too much, but when I look at my and my opponent's situations, I can usually predict the outcome.

There has been talk that Protoss is OP.

Absolutely not. I think Zerg is OP. When Zerg players said in interviews that their race was weak, my heart ached. Even on ladder, I have trouble beating Zergs.

Who would you like to meet in the semifinals?

Both Mvp and Symbol are strong, but personally, I would prefer to face a Terran, so I would like to see Mvp make it through.

(T)IM_Mvp

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I would like to hear your thoughts on making it up to the semifinals.

I'm very happy about reaching the semis. My head was aching before the match, so I anticipated that the pain would make my match a difficult one, but my coach gave me a massage. I think I was able to win thanks to my coach.

Were you satisfied with today's results?

I was. I haven't played a best of X series against Zerg in a very long while, so I'm happy to win like this.

Today, you demonstrated some great macro fights.

I think my TvZ results continue to be good because I keep preparing against Zerg. Previously, I only practiced to prepare for an individual matchup, but recently, even when I'm scheduled to face a Zerg, I play against other races in order to loosen up my hands, and I think I'm doing better because it helps me maintain my feel for the game.

How did you prepare for your games today?

Because it was Chuseok, I couldn't find anyone to play against, so I couldn't practice properly. After the end of the holiday, IM_True helped me a lot.

You've secured yourself a chance to win another GSL.

Whenever I get involved heavily in one season, I have trouble concentrating during the next one, so I don't think I perform poorly for lack of skill. This season, now that I'm at the semifinals, I want to seize my opportunity to win.

Your next opponent is Rain.

I've wanted to face him since a while back, so I'm glad that I'm able to meet him like this. Rain is a player who has lot to learn, so I hope he learns a lot from this match.

Rain is a player who has shown some excellent results. Are you confident about facing him?

I do feel confident. I haven't gotten acquainted with Rain yet, so I would like to take this chance to get to know him more. But as for the match, I want to be the one to win (laughs).

Today, you've made use of both bio and mech compositions.

In the past, I had more confidence in my mech play, so I primarily used mech compositions, but nowadays, I've built up confidence in my bio play, too, through practice. I think that mixing up my unit compositions gives Zerg players a harder time.

Zerg players have been looking very strong lately.

My win rate during practice hasn't been good, so I used to feel a lot of stress. Now, I play with the mindset that tournament results are what really matter, so I feel less anxious than before.

Before, Terran looked like the most powerful race, but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

Terran is not as good [as it used to be], but I think the race is strong enough to get me through.

Since Symbol is the one who took down several of your teammates, you must have felt some nervousness.

He is a good player, but I wanted to win against him even more after he beat my teammates. I think I was able to win because I went up against Symbol rather than a different player.

You've revealed your confidence in playing in best of X series. Are you confident going into your match against Rain, too?

I still feel confident. Now that Rain has won so often, I think it's time that he lost (laughs). If Rain reads this interview, I want to tell him that it's time for him to lose (laughs).

Any last words?

I would like send my thanks to IM_True and my team's Terran players, who helped me with practice. IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly. I also want to thank my parents for always cheering for me. I'm grateful to LG, SteelSeries, NVidia, Coca-Cola, and Googims, my team's sponsors. Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 03 2012 12:29 GMT
#2
Thanks a lot. Hopefully you told Seeker about your effort beforehand, haha.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 03 2012 12:31 GMT
#3
i hope this is real unlike that other dude which made a fake interview thread
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 12:43:42
October 03 2012 12:32 GMT
#4
On October 03 2012 21:31 X3GoldDot wrote:
i hope this is real unlike that other dude which made a fake interview thread

wozzot is known for sniping interviews while Seeker already is doing them, haha.

It looks real for sure, so thanks! Surprising for me that Rain thinks Z is OP... he dominated every PvZ i've seen him play so far.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#5
On October 03 2012 21:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Thanks a lot. Hopefully you told Seeker about your effort beforehand, haha.

to be honest it's first come first served, same with LRs, etc ;D
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zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 03 2012 12:37 GMT
#6
Rain vs Mvp will be one of the most anticipated match-ups in a while
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 03 2012 12:39 GMT
#7
On October 03 2012 21:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 21:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Thanks a lot. Hopefully you told Seeker about your effort beforehand, haha.

to be honest it's first come first served, same with LRs, etc ;D

sure, i agree, but i'd imagine it to be really shit to see that you have your interview translated and at the moment you wanna post it, someone else has done it already. and it's pretty much a given these days that Seeker translates, although he probably hasn't started yet
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 03 2012 12:46 GMT
#8
So... Rain says zerg is op. Now I can't think of any protoss who hasn't stated it.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 03 2012 12:48 GMT
#9
lol, Rain having trouble with zergs on ladder? Are there some hidden zerg bonjwa on korean ladders we do not know about? Of course, I am sure guys like Leenock, Life, DRG, Symbol would give him a run for his money. But I would say they are even at best. From the Kespa side, only Roro seems to be close to that level right now. Or course, with few games from Kespa, it is hard to tell.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 03 2012 12:49 GMT
#10
On October 03 2012 21:37 zerious wrote:
Rain vs Mvp will be one of the most anticipated match-ups in a while


As far as GSL goes we seem to get an amazing semi final almost every season on paper at least.

I mean, last season we had DRG vs MC. On paper that's amazing, just ended up a bit poor. I know I was anticipating the crap out of it in advance though.

But yes. Rain vs MVP I think everyone is looking forward to.
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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 12:53:46
October 03 2012 12:51 GMT
#11
I gotta say that I'm rooting for him to win this.
Didn't expect him to make it this far! Now I want to see him go all the way.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 03 2012 12:53 GMT
#12
Come on people, Rain is doing Korean interview 101. Dont act suprised.
Stork[gm]
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 14:53:48
October 03 2012 12:53 GMT
#13
-snip-
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storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
October 03 2012 12:57 GMT
#14
On October 03 2012 21:39 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 21:35 opterown wrote:
On October 03 2012 21:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Thanks a lot. Hopefully you told Seeker about your effort beforehand, haha.

to be honest it's first come first served, same with LRs, etc ;D

sure, i agree, but i'd imagine it to be really shit to see that you have your interview translated and at the moment you wanna post it, someone else has done it already. and it's pretty much a given these days that Seeker translates, although he probably hasn't started yet

i 'could' cause chaos by translating before anyone else
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#15
On October 03 2012 21:39 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 21:35 opterown wrote:
On October 03 2012 21:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Thanks a lot. Hopefully you told Seeker about your effort beforehand, haha.

to be honest it's first come first served, same with LRs, etc ;D

sure, i agree, but i'd imagine it to be really shit to see that you have your interview translated and at the moment you wanna post it, someone else has done it already. and it's pretty much a given these days that Seeker translates, although he probably hasn't started yet


I mean it really is first come first serve.

Nobody is the designated translator of GSL interviews, and if we really started telling people, no you can't translate this because seeker or someone else gets to... well that would be pretty stupid and counterintuitive.

Monopolizing something because of ego is pretty bad, and we've seen more than one outburst from Seeker after someone takes his LR thread / etc. Don't have anything against the guy, but its far from given that Seeker is the main translator or something.
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 03 2012 13:06 GMT
#16
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?

Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
October 03 2012 13:10 GMT
#17
He'd rather face Mvp over Leenock.. what? haha THIS GUY!!!!!
eSports or die tryin'
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
October 03 2012 13:13 GMT
#18
On October 03 2012 22:10 Bedrock wrote:
He'd rather face Mvp over Leenock.. what? haha THIS GUY!!!!!


Over Symbol

On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



Dont read them then, no need to annoy others with your negativity.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
October 03 2012 13:20 GMT
#19
On October 03 2012 22:13 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:10 Bedrock wrote:
He'd rather face Mvp over Leenock.. what? haha THIS GUY!!!!!


Over Symbol

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



Dont read them then, no need to annoy others with your negativity.


Thanks for the correction. I guess I would be a bit more scared by Symbol.
eSports or die tryin'
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
October 03 2012 13:26 GMT
#20
Awesome, especially his honest answer on balance. ^^
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 13:31:14
October 03 2012 13:30 GMT
#21
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
October 03 2012 13:33 GMT
#22
On October 03 2012 21:57 storywriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 21:39 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 03 2012 21:35 opterown wrote:
On October 03 2012 21:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Thanks a lot. Hopefully you told Seeker about your effort beforehand, haha.

to be honest it's first come first served, same with LRs, etc ;D

sure, i agree, but i'd imagine it to be really shit to see that you have your interview translated and at the moment you wanna post it, someone else has done it already. and it's pretty much a given these days that Seeker translates, although he probably hasn't started yet

i 'could' cause chaos by translating before anyone else

Storywriter so OP
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 03 2012 13:33 GMT
#23
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?
Stork[gm]
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 03 2012 13:39 GMT
#24
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
October 03 2012 13:40 GMT
#25
incredible Rain
@taefoxy
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
October 03 2012 13:43 GMT
#26
There has been talk that Protoss is OP.

Absolutely not. I think Zerg is OP. When Zergs said in interviews that their race was weak, my heart ached. Even on ladder, I have trouble beating Zergs.


hahahah, this is gold, please rain take both GSL and OSL you're an incredible player
protoss living in da ghetto
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 03 2012 13:43 GMT
#27
First time I see an ex-BW guy say straight up that SC2 suits him better, I think.

Not counting people who were total flakes in BW like MKP and MC.
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 13:44:58
October 03 2012 13:44 GMT
#28
I really like Rain's mindset. Humble and confident at the same time. That said can't wait for MVP's interview. He always has something insightful to say.

Thanks for translating wozzot.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
October 03 2012 13:57 GMT
#29
haha mvp so awesome
''you got to yolo things up to win''
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
October 03 2012 13:57 GMT
#30
Ty mvp i will try my best not to catch a cold Also gogo 5th championship
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
October 03 2012 13:58 GMT
#31
Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.


God is considerate
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 03 2012 13:58 GMT
#32
On October 03 2012 22:39 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.

Im sorry but im slowly starting to lose patience here.

Both Kespa and ESF are pretty ass boring on average compared to 'foreigners' in interviews.

Comparing only 1 party with omitting other is only hurtful comparison for 1st, and a good way to discredit someone. Why did you make this so excplicit in your first post to even add that Fantasy and Bisu (which are again an icons of Kespa not ESF) are now the dishwashers.

If you wanted to be more objective and closer to the truth you would say:

"Korean players are all pretty tame in comparison to controversial 'foreigners'"

Stork[gm]
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 03 2012 14:00 GMT
#33
That Mvp comment about the weather made me spill my drink slightly. That's such an odd thing to say, although at the same time very considerate.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 03 2012 14:00 GMT
#34
Rain is gonna eat MVP alive

GO GO GO !!!!!!!!!!!
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 03 2012 14:02 GMT
#35
Nothing too amazing in the MVP interview, but it's good that he feels confident. Weather comment was cute though.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 03 2012 14:03 GMT
#36
Mvp not afraid to throw down the gauntlet as well. Can't wait for the Mvp vs Rain match
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 03 2012 14:04 GMT
#37
Lololol, gotta love Mvp. <3

Let's GO! Time to derail that Rain hype train.
Long live the King of Wings
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
October 03 2012 14:04 GMT
#38
On October 03 2012 22:58 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:39 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.

Im sorry but im slowly starting to lose patience here.

Both Kespa and ESF are pretty ass boring on average compared to 'foreigners' in interviews.

Comparing only 1 party with omitting other is only hurtful comparison for 1st, and a good way to discredit someone. Why did you make this so excplicit in your first post to even add that Fantasy and Bisu (which are again an icons of Kespa not ESF) are now the dishwashers.

If you wanted to be more objective and closer to the truth you would say:

"Korean players are all pretty tame in comparison to controversial 'foreigners'"



Please don't accuse Mvp of being boring, thank you. Also, a lot of these Korean interviews are stripped of inflection and formalized before being published, so you don't get to see much display of emotion from them
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 03 2012 14:10 GMT
#39
On October 03 2012 22:58 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:39 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.

Im sorry but im slowly starting to lose patience here.

Both Kespa and ESF are pretty ass boring on average compared to 'foreigners' in interviews.

Comparing only 1 party with omitting other is only hurtful comparison for 1st, and a good way to discredit someone. Why did you make this so excplicit in your first post to even add that Fantasy and Bisu (which are again an icons of Kespa not ESF) are now the dishwashers.

If you wanted to be more objective and closer to the truth you would say:

"Korean players are all pretty tame in comparison to controversial 'foreigners'"



Rofl, chill out. I didn't mean it at all as a kespa vs eSF thing. Although Kespa's manner classes have a bit to do with it. Even when the first koreans started doing interviews that were translated by the community (players like Mvp, Nestea, MKP, MC, etc), it was known that 'koreans' were much more 'tame' and gave more 'cookie-cutter' responses and things like korean culture and Kespa mannerism classes were bought out. I used the Fantasy and Bisu as something controversial that Rain wouldn't say.

Not sure why I have to be objective when I wasn't even trying to compare the two. If I was, I would have said "Kespa pros interviews are lame and eSF pros are so much better". Just seems to me you just got ultra defensive towards Kespa for no apparent reason.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
October 03 2012 14:12 GMT
#40
On October 03 2012 22:58 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:39 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.

Im sorry but im slowly starting to lose patience here.

Both Kespa and ESF are pretty ass boring on average compared to 'foreigners' in interviews.

Comparing only 1 party with omitting other is only hurtful comparison for 1st, and a good way to discredit someone. Why did you make this so excplicit in your first post to even add that Fantasy and Bisu (which are again an icons of Kespa not ESF) are now the dishwashers.

If you wanted to be more objective and closer to the truth you would say:

"Korean players are all pretty tame in comparison to controversial 'foreigners'"



All I see is waaah waaah waaah. If you hate Korean interviews so much stop reading them. You're like a little kid banging your head on a wall, then complaining that your head hurts. Most sensible people will realise to just stop...
Quit your bitchy little whining and go watch your foreigners, and leave the rest of us who prefer to watch the best play and read their post game afterthoughts . Nobody likes a little nagging whiner and I'm sure you don't either, so don't be an enemy of yourself.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 03 2012 14:12 GMT
#41
On October 03 2012 23:04 wozzot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:58 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:39 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.

Im sorry but im slowly starting to lose patience here.

Both Kespa and ESF are pretty ass boring on average compared to 'foreigners' in interviews.

Comparing only 1 party with omitting other is only hurtful comparison for 1st, and a good way to discredit someone. Why did you make this so excplicit in your first post to even add that Fantasy and Bisu (which are again an icons of Kespa not ESF) are now the dishwashers.

If you wanted to be more objective and closer to the truth you would say:

"Korean players are all pretty tame in comparison to controversial 'foreigners'"



Please don't accuse Mvp of being boring, thank you. Also, a lot of these Korean interviews are stripped of inflection and formalized before being published, so you don't get to see much display of emotion from them


Actually, a lot of pros did have interesting things in their interviews. But it seems a lot of people like the Idra style where he just shats on all the other progamers and call them nubs who are lucky.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
October 03 2012 14:12 GMT
#42
On October 03 2012 21:27 wozzot wrote:
Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.

Mvp why you so damn amazing?
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 03 2012 14:14 GMT
#43
On October 03 2012 23:00 Kasaraki wrote:
That Mvp comment about the weather made me spill my drink slightly. That's such an odd thing to say, although at the same time very considerate.


If I remember correctly, this was not the first time from Mvp. I remember pretty much the same comment in an interview a few months back (or end of last year?).
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
October 03 2012 14:15 GMT
#44
HAHA mvp being a boss about playing rain next.

"I've wanted to face him since a while back, so I'm glad that I'm able to meet him like this. Rain is a player who has lot to learn, so I hope he learns a lot from this match."

What a boss
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#45
MVP, this man is classy AND a boss.
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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
October 03 2012 14:22 GMT
#46
thank you for the translations wozzot
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
October 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#47
Ty so much from the interview. 5th GSL on the way for King JJ!
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 14:42:08
October 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#48
On October 03 2012 23:12 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:58 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:39 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:33 bgx wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



He is a Kespa pro who isn't firebathero... What is he going to say? That he used to wash dishes for Fantasy and Bisu and now they wash the dishes for him?

Have you actually read the Kespa interviews before or you are just blindly bitching around?


Yes, most Kespa interviews are pretty tame compare to the controversial 'foreigners'. That was the point I was trying to say.

Im sorry but im slowly starting to lose patience here.

Both Kespa and ESF are pretty ass boring on average compared to 'foreigners' in interviews.

Comparing only 1 party with omitting other is only hurtful comparison for 1st, and a good way to discredit someone. Why did you make this so excplicit in your first post to even add that Fantasy and Bisu (which are again an icons of Kespa not ESF) are now the dishwashers.

If you wanted to be more objective and closer to the truth you would say:

"Korean players are all pretty tame in comparison to controversial 'foreigners'"



All I see is waaah waaah waaah. If you hate Korean interviews so much stop reading them. You're like a little kid banging your head on a wall, then complaining that your head hurts. Most sensible people will realise to just stop...
Quit your bitchy little whining and go watch your foreigners, and leave the rest of us who prefer to watch the best play and read their post game afterthoughts . Nobody likes a little nagging whiner and I'm sure you don't either, so don't be an enemy of yourself.

I forgot to put emphasize that i tried to make my point from his point of view. So closer to the truth was meant to the truth he believed.

I personally enjoy reading korean interviews, thats why i called him on presenting facts in a way he did("Kespa players are boring besides FBH"). From his answer to my post you couldnt decipher whether its ESF vs Kespa again or simple opinion. Ambiguous comments like that make a bad reading.

So yes i also made a mistake while calling someone's mistake for that im sorry.

Lets bury this shit.

and btw. you overreacted.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#49
On October 03 2012 23:15 See.Blue wrote:
HAHA mvp being a boss about playing rain next.

"I've wanted to face him since a while back, so I'm glad that I'm able to meet him like this. Rain is a player who has lot to learn, so I hope he learns a lot from this match."

What a boss

Such a senior vs junior quote

Mvp's success certainly made him an interesting character, thanks for interview
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#50
prepare to lose rain.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#51
IM team of diseases
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 03 2012 14:43 GMT
#52
"I wanted to practice on ladder, but because it was Chuseok, I couldn't find any Masters to play against"


Ive read the korean interview, its more like "I wanted to practice on ladder, but because it was Chusok, I was

continually matched up against master league players"


I think this implies that all the GMs were on holiday

lol
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Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
October 03 2012 14:43 GMT
#53
GJ MVP!
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Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
October 03 2012 14:45 GMT
#54
I'll be sure to wrap myself warm, Mvp.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 14:47:29
October 03 2012 14:45 GMT
#55

How did you prepare for your match against HerO today?

I wanted to practice on ladder, but because it was Chuseok, I couldn't find any Masters to play against.

The exact translation to this part of the interview is "...there were so few people that I was being matched up against masters". So yes, he is a GM, for anyone wondering.

You're very good at engaging while at max supply. Is your performance in this regard a product of practice?

...I don't think it's a particular strength of mine, but when you look at my situation, many of my wins do happen to be decided by max supply battles.

Actually he said "I really don't think that much about it but when I look at my situation and my opponent's, I can usually predict the outcome"

Otherwise, wonderful translations! Thank you.
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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
October 03 2012 14:48 GMT
#56
On October 03 2012 23:45 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +

How did you prepare for your match against HerO today?

I wanted to practice on ladder, but because it was Chuseok, I couldn't find any Masters to play against.

The exact translation to this part of the interview is "...there were so few people that I was being matched up against masters". So yes, he is a GM, for anyone wondering.

Show nested quote +
You're very good at engaging while at max supply. Is your performance in this regard a product of practice?

...I don't think it's a particular strength of mine, but when you look at my situation, many of my wins do happen to be decided by max supply battles.

Actually he said "I really don't think that much about it but when I look at my situation and my opponent's, I can usually predict the outcome"

Otherwise, wonderful translations! Thank you.

Fixed
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pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
October 03 2012 14:51 GMT
#57
rain, please CRUSH mvp
EG-TL!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 03 2012 14:59 GMT
#58
On October 03 2012 23:14 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 23:00 Kasaraki wrote:
That Mvp comment about the weather made me spill my drink slightly. That's such an odd thing to say, although at the same time very considerate.


If I remember correctly, this was not the first time from Mvp. I remember pretty much the same comment in an interview a few months back (or end of last year?).


Oh yeah, I think I remember that... Can't remember when though. Hmmm.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 15:02:13
October 03 2012 15:01 GMT
#59
MVP isn't going to win this time. Rain is going to destroy him.

ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
October 03 2012 15:07 GMT
#60
Rain vs MvP will finally give Rain some real challenge. Sad though that Mvp has that injury. If he loses, people will blame that.
tuoli9
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland211 Posts
October 03 2012 15:11 GMT
#61
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 03 2012 15:19 GMT
#62
On October 03 2012 23:00 Kasaraki wrote:
That Mvp comment about the weather made me spill my drink slightly. That's such an odd thing to say, although at the same time very considerate.


Actually many of the BW winner's interviews I translated during the winter months included statements like "dress warmly and don't get sick."

lol @ Sun saying Zerg is OP
lol @ Mvp telling Sun it's time to lose
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 15:29:18
October 03 2012 15:29 GMT
#63
Well, it's good to know Rain also thinks Zerg is too strong. God, Rain is so incredibly good though. Like, it's unreal how perfect his play is. That said, if anyone can beat him, it's MVP.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 15:32:45
October 03 2012 15:31 GMT
#64
IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly.


An eye disease? That's not good.

Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.


Lord Mvp cares about his subjects so much, what a kind king.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 03 2012 15:33 GMT
#65
MVP to smash Rain!!! Love him too! But also love Rain to win the entire GSL... mixed emotions..lol
Live and Let Die!
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
October 03 2012 15:46 GMT
#66
Im hoping so much for Rain.... We need a Protoss hero (no pun intended). Its gonna be tough though, because MVP will pull out some gangster cheese as always
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 03 2012 15:49 GMT
#67
On October 04 2012 00:31 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly.


An eye disease? That's not good.
Show nested quote +

Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.


Lord Mvp cares about his subjects so much, what a kind king.

Probably just pink eye. Nothing serious, but you still can't really play with it.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 03 2012 15:56 GMT
#68
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
October 03 2012 16:12 GMT
#69
MVP's interview is pretty badass. Would like to see Rain go down even as a kespa fan. Sorry SKT... just hard to root for you guys .
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 03 2012 16:14 GMT
#70
On October 03 2012 21:27 wozzot wrote:
Any last words?

I would like send my thanks to IM_True and my team's Terran players, who helped me with practice. IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly. I also want to thank my parents for always cheering for me. I'm grateful to LG, SteelSeries, NVidia, Coca-Cola, and Googims, my team's sponsors. Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.

Scumbag MVP, predicts my future -- tells me after I catch a cold
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:32:35
October 03 2012 16:32 GMT
#71
Is Mvp's final comment somehow an ironic poke at Rain? Or am I the only one who thought that.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 03 2012 16:32 GMT
#72
On October 04 2012 01:14 QuanticIllusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 21:27 wozzot wrote:
Any last words?

I would like send my thanks to IM_True and my team's Terran players, who helped me with practice. IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly. I also want to thank my parents for always cheering for me. I'm grateful to LG, SteelSeries, NVidia, Coca-Cola, and Googims, my team's sponsors. Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.

Scumbag MVP, predicts my future -- tells me after I catch a cold


ahahah please someone make a meme of "scumbag mvp"

and I was going to say he's the greatest terran ever because he cares about everyone else so that they don't get sick
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37010 Posts
October 03 2012 16:34 GMT
#73
Thank you for doing the interview wozzot.

I needed a break
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 03 2012 16:39 GMT
#74
On October 04 2012 00:19 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 23:00 Kasaraki wrote:
That Mvp comment about the weather made me spill my drink slightly. That's such an odd thing to say, although at the same time very considerate.


Actually many of the BW winner's interviews I translated during the winter months included statements like "dress warmly and don't get sick."

lol @ Sun saying Zerg is OP
lol @ Mvp telling Sun it's time to lose


Ahh, that's very interesting, thanks.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 03 2012 16:47 GMT
#75
now that's some bad ass korean interview

but let's hope Rain doesn't bite him back
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 03 2012 17:08 GMT
#76
On October 04 2012 00:49 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:31 Dodgin wrote:
IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly.


An eye disease? That's not good.

Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.


Lord Mvp cares about his subjects so much, what a kind king.

Probably just pink eye. Nothing serious, but you still can't really play with it.


Translations are tough. For all we know, the original says "IMHorror decided to become a pirate."
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Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
October 03 2012 17:22 GMT
#77
MVp is god!!!!!
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 03 2012 17:25 GMT
#78
On October 04 2012 01:34 SeeKeR wrote:
Thank you for doing the interview wozzot.

I needed a break

Seeker I am disappoint! I really looked forward to some unserious rambling from you

I love both of these players and can't decide who should/will win. Both are such badasses!
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 03 2012 17:48 GMT
#79
PvP is called a matchup where victory and defeat are decided by build orders.

Build orders are especially important in PvP. If you're at a build order disadvantage, you can lose even to an amateur. I feel that my win rate is so good because I'm good at choosing my builds based on the situation at hand.


Rain paying proper respects to the PvP gods and not making the same mistake Oz did.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:00:18
October 03 2012 17:59 GMT
#80
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.

secret - never again
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 03 2012 18:02 GMT
#81
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 03 2012 18:07 GMT
#82
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:12:18
October 03 2012 18:10 GMT
#83
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When you get overconfident you react badly to unforeseen losses and in general, you will not take your opponent seriously enough to adequately prepare.

On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
October 03 2012 18:12 GMT
#84
rain is soooooooo good.
woried about mvp, I really want him in the finals against taeja
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 03 2012 18:13 GMT
#85
On October 04 2012 03:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When you get overconfident you react badly to unforeseen losses and in general, you will not take your opponent seriously enough to adequately prepare.

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport.


If Parting didn't take Mvp seriously that's laughable, I refuse to believe that.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
October 03 2012 18:14 GMT
#86
I find that "Squirtle choked" excuse really stupid. He was 3-0 down and came back to 3-3 thats not choking under pressure. More like playing unbelievably good under pressure... Anyways, Rain has been playing really well, but it looks like royal roaders will always be doomed to lose so i think Mvp has this .

CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:31:43
October 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#87
On October 04 2012 03:13 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When you get overconfident you react badly to unforeseen losses and in general, you will not take your opponent seriously enough to adequately prepare.

On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport.


If Parting didn't take Mvp seriously that's laughable, I refuse to believe that.


It's just as laughable when K-Brad starting feeling himself in the SF4:AE finals at Season's Beatings and almost got downloaded by Infiltration? Or when Life didn't prepare for his Code A match and got stomped by Leenock? You underestimate how much overconfidence can cloud your judgment, and Mvp was not one of the favorites in that season. People thought that his injuries were too big of an obstacle to overcome. Even Mvp was not that confident in his interviews and Parting is known for being cocky. Remember that the series happened just after Mvp failed to win the NVIDIA Gaming Festival (which should have been a freebie given the competition there) and he was looking incredibly weak in the months leading up to it.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#88
On October 04 2012 03:14 Darrkhan wrote:
I find that "Squirtle choked" excuse really stupid. He was 3-0 down and came back to 3-3 thats not choking under pressure. More like playing unbelievably good under pressure... Anyways, Rain has been playing really well, but it looks like royal roaders will always be doomed to lose so i think Mvp has this .


if you saw the first three games it was quite obvious that he was making mistakes we did not see him do anytime during the tournament up to that point, like rallying immortals across the map for nothing etc
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37010 Posts
October 03 2012 18:25 GMT
#89
On October 04 2012 02:25 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:34 SeeKeR wrote:
Thank you for doing the interview wozzot.

I needed a break

Seeker I am disappoint! I really looked forward to some unserious rambling from you

I love both of these players and can't decide who should/will win. Both are such badasses!

No more drama. I'm sick of it
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
October 03 2012 18:27 GMT
#90
On October 04 2012 03:14 Darrkhan wrote:
I find that "Squirtle choked" excuse really stupid. He was 3-0 down and came back to 3-3 thats not choking under pressure. More like playing unbelievably good under pressure... Anyways, Rain has been playing really well, but it looks like royal roaders will always be doomed to lose so i think Mvp has this .


He would have won easily if he played at his usual level in at least 4 games...
Yes he choked, there is a reason he lost in a lot of finals.
WriterMaru
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
October 03 2012 18:28 GMT
#91
On October 04 2012 01:14 QuanticIllusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 21:27 wozzot wrote:
Any last words?

I would like send my thanks to IM_True and my team's Terran players, who helped me with practice. IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly. I also want to thank my parents for always cheering for me. I'm grateful to LG, SteelSeries, NVidia, Coca-Cola, and Googims, my team's sponsors. Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.

Scumbag MVP, predicts my future -- tells me after I catch a cold


LOL.

Oh. Almost forgot why I came here.

SKT! SKT! SKT! ...SKT! Hope Sun does well :D
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 03 2012 18:28 GMT
#92
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When people play overconfident they tend to do things they normally wouldn't do. I would just call that the reality of the situation and not an excuse, let alone a pitiful one.
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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
October 03 2012 18:30 GMT
#93
On October 04 2012 03:25 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:25 Hryul wrote:
On October 04 2012 01:34 SeeKeR wrote:
Thank you for doing the interview wozzot.

I needed a break

Seeker I am disappoint! I really looked forward to some unserious rambling from you

I love both of these players and can't decide who should/will win. Both are such badasses!

No more drama. I'm sick of it

why do you hate popcorns
as1
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 03 2012 18:36 GMT
#94
On October 04 2012 02:08 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:49 Dosey wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:31 Dodgin wrote:
IM_horror came down with an eye disease, so I hope that he gets better quickly.


An eye disease? That's not good.

Finally, the weather has gotten chilly recently, so I hope everyone takes care not to catch a cold.


Lord Mvp cares about his subjects so much, what a kind king.

Probably just pink eye. Nothing serious, but you still can't really play with it.


Translations are tough. For all we know, the original says "IMHorror decided to become a pirate."


Hahahaha, how awesome would that be. He actually does look like a pirate to me:

[image loading]

Or maybe that's my sleep deprived mind talking.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 03 2012 18:58 GMT
#95
you heard it here first. It's time for you to lose Rain!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
October 03 2012 19:05 GMT
#96
On October 03 2012 21:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So... Rain says zerg is op. Now I can't think of any protoss who hasn't stated it.


yeah yeah protoss stating zerg is op. Yet every time I look protoss everywhere
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 02:52:50
October 03 2012 19:14 GMT
#97
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


Remember when MVP beat Naniwa in ro4 (if I'm not mistaken)? He realizes his wrist problems and when someone is in a better condition than him. And also the weaknesses and strengths of Protoss/Terran early game. I don't think he will allow for rain to take advantage of them

Although, Rain is 10x more solid than Naniwa looked back then, and any of the other three. Except Parting maybe, but a player who is on such a dominant streak can be shaken if it doesn't go his way very easily.
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#98
whoever wins, rain or MVP, they'll win the GSL
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
October 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#99
MVP is a mother fucking boss. If he wins this season despite his injury, I will cry with joy.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 03 2012 19:48 GMT
#100
On October 04 2012 04:25 renaissanceMAN wrote:
whoever wins, rain or MVP, they'll win the GSL


As much as I want this (them being my two favorite players left), Taeja really isn't a force to be counted out like that. I would give rain a better shot against taeja than MVP though. On second thought, Taeja has showed some tvt weakness recently notably going down 0-2 to forgg.
esports
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37010 Posts
October 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#101
On October 04 2012 03:30 skyflyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:25 SeeKeR wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:25 Hryul wrote:
On October 04 2012 01:34 SeeKeR wrote:
Thank you for doing the interview wozzot.

I needed a break

Seeker I am disappoint! I really looked forward to some unserious rambling from you

I love both of these players and can't decide who should/will win. Both are such badasses!

No more drama. I'm sick of it

why do you hate popcorns

?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
October 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#102
On October 04 2012 04:48 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:25 renaissanceMAN wrote:
whoever wins, rain or MVP, they'll win the GSL


As much as I want this (them being my two favorite players left), Taeja really isn't a force to be counted out like that. I would give rain a better shot against taeja than MVP though. On second thought, Taeja has showed some tvt weakness recently notably going down 0-2 to forgg.




then winning 3 games in a row to win the whole tournement........
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 03 2012 20:00 GMT
#103
Thanks for the interview!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
October 03 2012 20:01 GMT
#104
MVP is a winner. He is officially the first terran player for me to become a fan of. This guy is just magic.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
October 03 2012 20:26 GMT
#105
Anyone find it ironic that MVP commented about the weather when his next opponent will be "Rain" in which case MVP predicted the weather forecast of their next match to be a cold and rainy day :D

ALso that the game is made by Blizzard which also associates with cold.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 20:30:18
October 03 2012 20:27 GMT
#106
Mvp vs By.Sun in Las Vegas?

edit :nm that's GSL season 5
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
October 03 2012 20:42 GMT
#107
I can't stand the hype train that Rain's success has created. Sure, he's sick good but people were saying this kind of shit of forgg when he crushed through code A in the past.

Anyways damn I'm excited for how this GSL is going to unfold! I hope mvp doesn't get his fifth title cos he's had enough...
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
October 03 2012 20:53 GMT
#108
On October 03 2012 22:13 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:10 Bedrock wrote:
He'd rather face Mvp over Leenock.. what? haha THIS GUY!!!!!


Over Symbol

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:06 Azurues wrote:
as usual ultra humble interview from korean.

can't we just get something a little out of the usual?



Dont read them then, no need to annoy others with your negativity.


mvp's interviews are always nice
can i get my estro logo back pls
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
October 03 2012 21:24 GMT
#109
On October 04 2012 03:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:13 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When you get overconfident you react badly to unforeseen losses and in general, you will not take your opponent seriously enough to adequately prepare.

On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport.


If Parting didn't take Mvp seriously that's laughable, I refuse to believe that.


It's just as laughable when K-Brad starting feeling himself in the SF4:AE finals at Season's Beatings and almost got downloaded by Infiltration? Or when Life didn't prepare for his Code A match and got stomped by Leenock? You underestimate how much overconfidence can cloud your judgment, and Mvp was not one of the favorites in that season. People thought that his injuries were too big of an obstacle to overcome. Even Mvp was not that confident in his interviews and Parting is known for being cocky. Remember that the series happened just after Mvp failed to win the NVIDIA Gaming Festival (which should have been a freebie given the competition there) and he was looking incredibly weak in the months leading up to it.


I know that Mvp hasn't always been up to his top level, but the NVIDIA Gaming Festival can't be used as an example as it was twitted everywhere before the matches that Mvp had food poisoning. Plus you've got to remember that Mvp is not treated on the same standard as every other pro.
As soon as he loses a match, everybody says he is in a slump (remember GSL S1 when he only lost twice to Gumiho, but still a lot of people were going crazy on how Mvp was never going to win ever again and he took the next GSL).
The fact is that he's been more inconsistent since the beginning of 2012 and he plays so few tournaments than as soon as he gets eliminated from GSL, everybody considers that he is playing bad.

But at the moment, he is in great form and I definitely think that Mvp can stop Rain. I'm not saying he is the clear favourite, but we only had the occasion to watch Rain win in three big TvPs yet (Byun, Polt and Taeja), and two of those players are definitely worse than Mvp at the moment. He may very well not play up to his level in those games or show some weaknesses that we haven't seen before. Considering he has lost against Happy once already this season, there is nothing certain for me at the moment.

Conclusion, Mvp has taught me to trust him in every situation and he seems both motivated and confident, so I have a good feeling toward this semi-final. It's going to be great anyway !
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 03 2012 21:56 GMT
#110
On October 04 2012 05:42 herMan wrote:
I can't stand the hype train that Rain's success has created. Sure, he's sick good but people were saying this kind of shit of forgg when he crushed through code A in the past.

Anyways damn I'm excited for how this GSL is going to unfold! I hope mvp doesn't get his fifth title cos he's had enough...


It's impossible for him to ever live up to the hype, even if he wins GSL.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#111
Mvp's going to take this GSL home! His Ro8 games certainly left a message for us to see:

He told us the weather was cold and we should prevent ourselves from getting a cold.
You know what also gives colds? By.Rain!
By giving us this warning, he has saved us from getting a cold...

it's obviously subliminal messaging that Mvp will save GSL from Rain and claim the trophy for non-Kespa players once more!
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#112
rains debut is alot more amazing than forgg, but mvp will still beat him!!!!

but truth be told i think rain is stronger than mvp. but i want mvp to win. rain can win osl.
Kevinshi3
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States148 Posts
October 03 2012 22:05 GMT
#113
Don't worry guys, MVP will protect us from the Rain
yo mamaship so fat it couldn't fit in the expansion
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 22:15:49
October 03 2012 22:09 GMT
#114
On October 04 2012 06:24 ColtraneL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:13 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When you get overconfident you react badly to unforeseen losses and in general, you will not take your opponent seriously enough to adequately prepare.

On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport.


If Parting didn't take Mvp seriously that's laughable, I refuse to believe that.


It's just as laughable when K-Brad starting feeling himself in the SF4:AE finals at Season's Beatings and almost got downloaded by Infiltration? Or when Life didn't prepare for his Code A match and got stomped by Leenock? You underestimate how much overconfidence can cloud your judgment, and Mvp was not one of the favorites in that season. People thought that his injuries were too big of an obstacle to overcome. Even Mvp was not that confident in his interviews and Parting is known for being cocky. Remember that the series happened just after Mvp failed to win the NVIDIA Gaming Festival (which should have been a freebie given the competition there) and he was looking incredibly weak in the months leading up to it.


I know that Mvp hasn't always been up to his top level, but the NVIDIA Gaming Festival can't be used as an example as it was twitted everywhere before the matches that Mvp had food poisoning. Plus you've got to remember that Mvp is not treated on the same standard as every other pro.
As soon as he loses a match, everybody says he is in a slump (remember GSL S1 when he only lost twice to Gumiho, but still a lot of people were going crazy on how Mvp was never going to win ever again and he took the next GSL).
The fact is that he's been more inconsistent since the beginning of 2012 and he plays so few tournaments than as soon as he gets eliminated from GSL, everybody considers that he is playing bad.

But at the moment, he is in great form and I definitely think that Mvp can stop Rain. I'm not saying he is the clear favourite, but we only had the occasion to watch Rain win in three big TvPs yet (Byun, Polt and Taeja), and two of those players are definitely worse than Mvp at the moment. He may very well not play up to his level in those games or show some weaknesses that we haven't seen before. Considering he has lost against Happy once already this season, there is nothing certain for me at the moment.

Conclusion, Mvp has taught me to trust him in every situation and he seems both motivated and confident, so I have a good feeling toward this semi-final. It's going to be great anyway !


The point was not that Mvp was inconsistent but that Parting had a reason to be overconfident for his Ro8 series in Season 2. Even discounting the NVIDIA Gaming Festival (I was unaware of the circumstances, thank you for mentioning them) Mvp was performing far below expectations.
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Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
October 03 2012 22:12 GMT
#115
if MVP wins, is he the umbrella terran?
Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
October 03 2012 22:15 GMT
#116
Oh man, MVP vs Rain is going to be sick
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
October 03 2012 22:20 GMT
#117
Mvp, don't let Kespa win the first GSL they attend! GOGO KingJJ
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ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 03 2012 22:59 GMT
#118
On October 04 2012 07:12 Crisco wrote:
if MVP wins, is he the umbrella terran?


Yes, works against both Sun and Rain.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
October 03 2012 23:04 GMT
#119
A lot of people are saying Rain will win both OSL and GSL.

DRG will stop Rain in the OSL.
MVP will stop rain in the GSL.
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 03 2012 23:09 GMT
#120
On October 03 2012 21:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So... Rain says zerg is op. Now I can't think of any protoss who hasn't stated it.

Does this mean anything really?

I can't think of any Zerg player (save Stephano) who hasn't said Toss was favoured.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 03 2012 23:10 GMT
#121
On October 04 2012 08:04 smOOthMayDie wrote:
A lot of people are saying Rain will win both OSL and GSL.

DRG will stop Rain in the OSL.
MVP will stop rain in the GSL.

last and leenock, man!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
October 03 2012 23:26 GMT
#122
GSL would only be half as fun without those interview translations.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 12:11:29
October 04 2012 12:11 GMT
#123
I wish people would stop trying to make excuses for parting and squirtle, mvp beat them because he was and is better than them.

MVPPPPPP <3.
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malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
October 04 2012 21:00 GMT
#124
wow no one wants the elephant prophecy to come true it seems

I still think rain has a good chance over mvp
dumchu
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Profile Joined May 2012
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 00:44:55
October 05 2012 00:34 GMT
#125
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.

No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

lol WHAT? he was the favourite in both matches, and most people thought he had no chance to take a map? do you realise how absurd this statement is?

On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

they lost and they are much worse, despite huge injury


On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport. [/QUOTE]
oh it means nothing. so veterans have the same average mental quality as nonveterans?

On October 04 2012 03:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 03:13 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:07 Dodgin wrote:
On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


" Parting lost because he got overconfident "

So you play worse when you get overconfident or what? If that's the excuse It's a pretty pitiful one.


When you get overconfident you react badly to unforeseen losses and in general, you will not take your opponent seriously enough to adequately prepare.

On October 04 2012 03:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 02:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 04 2012 00:11 tuoli9 wrote:
MVP is such a badass. "It's time for Rain to lose." Rain should be scared shitless!

...does Rain look like the kind of person to get intimitated by that to you?

Should be an amazing semifinals no matter what, but I'm gonna have to agree on Rain 3-1. Mvp is looking as strong as ever, but Rain is looking nigh unbeatable. Yes, the same could be said for PartinG/Squirtle/Symbol in the last seasons but this is something else. Rain is crushing everyone everywhere no matter what, and with his lategame PvT skills and Mvp's wrists in a drawn out session, the stars would really have to align for Mvp if he's gonna make his way out of this one.


No, the exact same was said for Parting Squirtle when MVP won last time. They were dominating UNBELIEVABLY hard, harder than Rain has been doing. Squirtle didn't drop a single fucking map. They were crushing favorites, and nobody, besides the most diehard MVP fans thought he even stood a chance of taking a map.

But nope, MVP rolled them because thats what he does. Time and time again he proves us wrong, because he's a winner. And winners win.


Parting lost because he got overconfident.
Squirtle lost because he choked under pressure.

Rain is a veteran in a different way though. Yes, it's his first time in anything big in SC2, but he's got the BW experience that the others lacked on a top level. I'm fairly confident Rain will stand up for himself in a way that the other tosses were unable to, and quite frankly that's all he needs.


The BW experience means nothing. Plenty of veterans lack the mental discipline that Rain possesses right now, and this is the same case in every sport.


If Parting didn't take Mvp seriously that's laughable, I refuse to believe that.

You underestimate how much overconfidence can cloud your judgment, and Mvp was not one of the favorites in that season.

i dont know how retarded one would have to be to think a match where youre not the favourite is a virtually given win. just where are you getting this from?
yes he wasnt one of the favourites, he was the favourite
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4492 Posts
October 05 2012 00:36 GMT
#126
'sure if he makes it that far'

Life you fkn boss. You've just earned yourself a new fan you cheeky koont ^^
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
October 05 2012 00:39 GMT
#127
On October 05 2012 06:00 malady wrote:
wow no one wants the elephant prophecy to come true it seems

I still think rain has a good chance over mvp

I do! BW pros ftw!
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