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On September 25 2012 12:41 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
I am not entirely clueless and innocent , I already told you guys this
I am not an Angel , I am a DeathAngel.. I am a bad guy.. that's why I did this , I am not perfect.. I will never be.. I will be like this all my life I guess , I don't like being a saint
but I never thought ppl would came to book coaching from veralynn.. I thought vera likes to brag with her gm account and feels good like a gosu girl acting in balla style and being happy .. I was always skeptic about paid coaching.. seemed to me like ppl wanted only freecoaching and because veralynn was missing some aspects in the coaching.. they would just keep theyr mouths shut to be nice guys.. and continue.. but never pay for any coaching..
didn't even seemed to me like vera was interested in money.. but mostly in having a good time.. as the guy above posted.. she didn't even took the money that I won in the showmatches.. she refused it
my opinion.. she wanted to feel the GM balla lifestyle
I am an evil person , but I didn't wanted to make ppl donate millions of dollars to veralynn.. I would rather ask ppl to take coaching from me and make money myself :D
but I asked vera and she told me that ppl didn't took many paid coaching lessons from her as ppl say here .. so I really don't know who is right here.. I would mostly believe her.. rlly
This all kind of makes sense, except for the part where you do "terrible terrible damage" to the women's scene by smurfing as a women in an all-women's tournament. That's not helping you, that's not helping her (except to give her bragging rights beyond "the GM balla lifestyle") and it only does tremendous harm to a scene where women players are few and far between.
You don't always have to be a saint, but there's a difference between not being a saint and basically ruining the sanctity of a competition and ruining other people's chances to make it in this scene.
Again, I don't think you should be banned for life or anything, but saying on "TL, I'm a bad person, I came forward, forgive me" doesn't really cut it. Take a 5 month break from major competition or something if you really want to prove you're sorry. People will remember you when you come back and you'll be in everyone's good graces again.
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On September 25 2012 12:48 Angry.Zerg wrote:
did someone has brought the case with Major doing the almost the same some years ago? playing on a girl's account on a only girl tournament? (if I remember well, but I can be wrong)
Major played on a SEA only tourney, the female one i don't think he did that o:
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deathangel is fuckin great, I'm on board
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i think we can close this up.
vera is pretty much done with esport and i would wonder when any major tournament would except deathangel in the next 6-12 month.
thx for the content for next's sotg,itg,lo3,2gd,sc2pro though
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On September 25 2012 12:49 WilDMousE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:48 Angry.Zerg wrote:
did someone has brought the case with Major doing the almost the same some years ago? playing on a girl's account on a only girl tournament? (if I remember well, but I can be wrong) Major played on a SEA only tourney, the female one i don't think he did that o:
That SEA only tournament was in SC2... what I'm talking about happened on BW days.
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On September 25 2012 12:41 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
I am not entirely clueless and innocent , I already told you guys this
I am not an Angel , I am a DeathAngel.. I am a bad guy.. that's why I did this , I am not perfect.. I will never be.. I will be like this all my life I guess , I don't like being a saint
but I never thought ppl would came to book coaching from veralynn.. I thought vera likes to brag with her gm account and feels good like a gosu girl acting in balla style and being happy .. I was always skeptic about paid coaching.. seemed to me like ppl wanted only freecoaching and because veralynn was missing some aspects in the coaching.. they would just keep theyr mouths shut to be nice guys.. and continue.. but never pay for any coaching..
didn't even seemed to me like vera was interested in money.. but mostly in having a good time.. as the guy above posted.. she didn't even took the money that I won in the showmatches.. she refused it
my opinion.. she wanted to feel the GM balla lifestyle
I am an evil person , but I didn't wanted to make ppl donate millions of dollars to veralynn.. I would rather ask ppl to take coaching from me and make money myself :D
but I asked vera and she told me that ppl didn't took many paid coaching lessons from her as ppl say here .. so I really don't know who is right here.. I would mostly believe her.. rlly
lol at this. your attitude towards this whole situation is extremely immature, but hey, its pretty immature to do what you did in the first place. sorry, but i hope you get blacklisted by the community.
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On September 25 2012 12:41 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
I am not entirely clueless and innocent , I already told you guys this
I am not an Angel , I am a DeathAngel.. I am a bad guy.. that's why I did this , I am not perfect.. I will never be.. I will be like this all my life I guess , I don't like being a saint
but I never thought ppl would came to book coaching from veralynn.. I thought vera likes to brag with her gm account and feels good like a gosu girl acting in balla style and being happy .. I was always skeptic about paid coaching.. seemed to me like ppl wanted only freecoaching and because veralynn was missing some aspects in the coaching.. they would just keep theyr mouths shut to be nice guys.. and continue.. but never pay for any coaching..
didn't even seemed to me like vera was interested in money.. but mostly in having a good time.. as the guy above posted.. she didn't even took the money that I won in the showmatches.. she refused it
my opinion.. she wanted to feel the GM balla lifestyle
I am an evil person , but I didn't wanted to make ppl donate millions of dollars to veralynn.. I would rather ask ppl to take coaching from me and make money myself :D
but I asked vera and she told me that ppl didn't took many paid coaching lessons from her as ppl say here .. so I really don't know who is right here.. I would mostly believe her.. rlly
I would hope that she wouldn't take money that she didn't earn.
With that said, I don't know if it is me not understanding your English well......but 75% of the stuff you are saying is completely incoherent and irrelevant.
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First of all, I'm glad I got caught and I can finally end this - My intentions were to help grow e-sports which I achieved through running Z33K.TV, but this has obviously turned out horribly wrong and has accomplished the complete opposite to what my intentions were:
I'm a masters Zerg player and needed coaching to help me to get to Grandmasters. I contacted a website for a coach and was put in touch with Deathangel. However, instead of coaching, we discussed that he'd boost my account to Grandmasters to give me that initial boost to help me.
Once it got to grandmasters, he continued to play the account for me regularly to keep bonus pool down/keep it active. While this happened, I put up a coaching profile to coach people. As I had never coached people, I did numerous hours of free coaching on my stream. This was known to Deathangel.
While this happened, Deathangel continued to play the account and I tried to do some coaching etc. In total, I had 3 paid coaching students. Any feedback on coaching I received was from free coaching and NOT paid coaching. I have since refunded those students and apologise if it was not helpful.
As people requested to see me stream, I asked Deathangel to stream on the account for me. He streamed regularly but charged $20-$30 an hour for each stream he did. Outside of streaming, each game that Deathangel played, he charged $3 per game, and as he regularly played for me, he did mini-discounts.
When I was invited to play any event - Millenium Girl Tournament & AGL Invitational - that he played, he took the entire prize, which I have also refunded to the organisers - I am sorry for this being under false pretenses. I have refunded the money that I never received as I gave it to DeathAngel.
We subsequently agreed to play Showmatches and he was very happy to do them - I gave him 100% of the prizes. I did not invoice SixPoolGaming for the showmatch against Sjow or Cytoplasm and so never received any money from them - However, I sent the relevant prize to DeathAngel immediately. I never received the MilleniumTV Tarson Showmatch money (yet), but I have already sent him the prize for that.
The entire thing was a terrible idea, and I apologise to all people who were hurt by this.
I am especially sorry to Z33K.TV and Z33K.Com as I grew the casting organisation with the casters and am sorry to leave it. Rifkin, Badfatpanda, Pengwin, and the rest - You guys were so close to me and this spiralled out of control. Z33K.TV grew to cast Dreamhack Valencia, TSL Qualifiers, Pokerstrategy.com League and run its own $1,000 Team league and If I had stopped it earlier, perhaps we could've continued on to grow it more - I apologise for misleading you like this.
I am happy to step away from my position as head of Z33K.TV and will happily assist in any handover procedures necessary.
I am also sorry to sixpoolgaming.com for any damage caused to their reputation - they are a great site and helped me so much and I apologise to them.
What I have said here is 100% the truth from my perspective, and thus I do not intend to make any follow up posts regarding this - I am happy to step away from the Starcraft 2 Community in a professional capacity and bid you all farewell.
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On September 25 2012 12:29 Swords wrote:
Why are so many people letting DeathAngel off so easily here? His claim that he wanted to get showmatches makes no sense because none of the people watching knew it was him, so there was no way for him to actually gain anything (exposure, more matches, etc.) through his play. Even if he could gain exposure via Veralynn, he's pretending to be someone else so he could get showmatches because he couldn't get them on his own merit. There are lots of players out there deserving of a chance at the spotlight and DeathAngel/Veralynn took advantage of the concept of a woman gamer to steal that chance from others. Either way it's pretty shady and fucked up.
I don't think he really needs to be punished for life - he didn't cheat or anything. But, looking at those records provided by Kawaii, this was a pretty shady and coordinated operation between the two (even if poorly thought out). I really don't see how this was some innocent mistake on DA's part.
I can actually understand wanting the showmatches. You just want the pressure, the intensity of the mindgames of a BoX. Same reason clans have CWs with each other for no purpose. It's more for the thrill of the experience.
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On September 25 2012 12:43 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:25 ECHOZs wrote:On September 25 2012 12:08 rd wrote:On September 25 2012 12:07 ECHOZs wrote:On September 25 2012 11:10 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:On September 25 2012 11:07 goswser wrote:
I vote we ban deathangel from all showmatches from here on out. I would never got into any showmatch anyway because I don't posses a vagina , but thank you for comming with this smart idea sir , 100 hats down to you. Yeah because Sjow, DesRow and ToD all have vaginas right? I think the point is behind you -- splattered on the wall. It'd appear it went over your head. He comes off to me like he's entitled to be in showmatches for whatever reason. Most players get in showmatches because they work their ass off and make a name for themselves. Some get there because of their gender its how it works because its what brings in viewers. Look at what he said in his post "and I never got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited..". Here's a question why should he get invited? Most people probably didn't even know who he was until today. He comes off to me like he's pointing out the irony that at his level no one really cares to see him play high level show matches -- yet you put a vagina into the mix and suddenly everyone is interested. I think you're extruding a lot of assumptions out of bias.
I'm sorry, but who really wants to see a showmatch featuring a relatively unknown mid tier EU GM? Obviously a vagina is going to draw more attention in a penis dominated sport. People need to get over the extra attention some girls get in the scene. They are inherently more unique than most male gamers and obviously that will help them get some attention, there's nothing really wrong with that, nor is it ironic. It's called supply and demand.
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DeathAngel is an accomplice no matter how you look at this.
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Well, I might be stupid for it, but I'm gonna say from the little bit of evidence put in front of me, that I actually think DeathAngel might have just tangled up in something a bit above him.
There is the interesting point - his performances clearly merited the showmatches he played in. Why can't he get showmatches against people? His English is not up to the level of being able to 'network' like people have written repeatedly. Seems like he is someone who could have done with a team to firstly market him, and secondly guide him.
My two cents
Edit: with the post above by Vera, whoops, I am stupid 
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On September 25 2012 12:56 BounceDJC wrote:
Well, I might be stupid for it, but I'm gonna say from the little bit of evidence put in front of me, that I actually think DeathAngel might have just tangled up in something a bit above him.
There is the interesting point - his performances clearly merited the showmatches he played in. Why can't he get showmatches against people? His English is not up to the level of being able to 'network' like people have written repeatedly. Seems like he is someone who could have done with a team to firstly market him, and secondly guide him.
My two cents
There are tons of pros at Deathangel's level who don't get showmatches against people.
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On September 25 2012 11:58 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 11:54 onPHYRE wrote:On September 25 2012 11:46 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:On September 25 2012 11:42 bsdaemon wrote:
I don't think we need to ask for any more punishment for those two. DA offered an explanation and VeraLynn pretty much deleted her stuff. In the end, they are the ones who lost. A lot. They won't be able to move around the eSports community without raising eyebrows. People will be watching them closely. It will be difficult for them to start anything without someone asking about this controversy. Every time they pop-up, they will be forced to answer or explain this controversy. That's punishment enough I think. my friend.. a lot of top pros play on some regular ppl accounts.. for money or just for smurfing purposes .. it's just that you don't know .. I already explained this case I think the difference is most don't stream pretending to be that person, and also don't play in show matches pretending to be that person. That is where the difference is. It is one thing to make money from power leveling someone to GM, and a whole different matter to promote some else's brand (in this case a female) in order to generate stream revenue for that person and in turn to help set up show matches for that person through that stream, and then play in those show matches for even more money. I am not saying you should be banned, etc. And I am sure eventually your reputation will be restored, but for the time being, giving the full story would help a lot more than playing mostly ignorant. It will def take time. I am sorry , but I don't like drama , the story for me it's not important .. and I also don't know what you mean about ,, story'' .. I just found out that the fact that I used to play on that account created pain for some people , I will never do something like this again since it didn't benefited me in any way .. I was stupid , I would better try to play on my own and get a good reputation for my name.. eventho.. I don't have a vagina.. but atleast I should try to succed at image even in this way..
I am not claiming you like drama. What I am saying is that you can't sit there and give a super long explanation (trying to exonerate yourself by claiming ignorance etc) but leave stuff out of your explanation. Multiple people have asked you the same questions, which are the holes in your story which I am referring to. I myself asked as well, why stream for her? Why enter tournaments for her? When all you cared about was using a smurf (which you had multiples of according to you) and to play in a show match (which you didn't earn like the people you played against - that did not have vaginas), why even bother with that other stuff? Also why not answer the question about if you accepted money, for any part of this what-so-ever. You may not know about her paid coaching, but everything else are questions you should be able to answer and will in fact LOWER the amount of drama you experience since everything will be out in the open. It may be damaging to admit to some, but pleading ignorant when its becoming pretty clear you were not is going to make things so much worse. I am all for you eventually being forgiven, but if this is how you handle it, you may ruin that in many peoples eyes (not sure why some people are taking your explanation as a positive, if examined and thought about critically, there are way too many holes in the story).
On September 25 2012 12:33 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:29 Swords wrote:
Why are so many people letting DeathAngel off so easily here? His claim that he wanted to get showmatches makes no sense because none of the people watching knew it was him, so there was no way for him to actually gain anything (exposure, more matches, etc.) through his play. Even if he could gain exposure via Veralynn, he's pretending to be someone else so he could get showmatches because he couldn't get them on his own merit. There are lots of players out there deserving of a chance at the spotlight and DeathAngel/Veralynn took advantage of the concept of a woman gamer to steal that chance from others. Either way it's pretty shady and fucked up.
I don't think he really needs to be punished for life - he didn't cheat or anything. But, looking at those records provided by Kawaii, this was a pretty shady and coordinated operation between the two (even if poorly thought out). I really don't see how this was some innocent mistake on DA's part. Well he sure got a crap load of attention now.
Almost like the Paris Hilton sex tape.
On September 25 2012 12:36 Holytornados wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:29 Swords wrote:
Why are so many people letting DeathAngel off so easily here? His claim that he wanted to get showmatches makes no sense because none of the people watching knew it was him, so there was no way for him to actually gain anything (exposure, more matches, etc.) through his play. Even if he could gain exposure via Veralynn, he's pretending to be someone else so he could get showmatches because he couldn't get them on his own merit. There are lots of players out there deserving of a chance at the spotlight and DeathAngel/Veralynn took advantage of the concept of a woman gamer to steal that chance from others. Either way it's pretty shady and fucked up.
I don't think he really needs to be punished for life - he didn't cheat or anything. But, looking at those records provided by Kawaii, this was a pretty shady and coordinated operation between the two (even if poorly thought out). I really don't see how this was some innocent mistake on DA's part. I took it as he just wanted to PLAY a showmatch, not get the recognition from it.
Then why stream pretending to be her and also why play in that tournament(s)?
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On September 25 2012 12:40 Pwnzer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:01 ROOTFayth wrote:On September 25 2012 11:58 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:On September 25 2012 11:54 onPHYRE wrote:On September 25 2012 11:46 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:On September 25 2012 11:42 bsdaemon wrote:
I don't think we need to ask for any more punishment for those two. DA offered an explanation and VeraLynn pretty much deleted her stuff. In the end, they are the ones who lost. A lot. They won't be able to move around the eSports community without raising eyebrows. People will be watching them closely. It will be difficult for them to start anything without someone asking about this controversy. Every time they pop-up, they will be forced to answer or explain this controversy. That's punishment enough I think. my friend.. a lot of top pros play on some regular ppl accounts.. for money or just for smurfing purposes .. it's just that you don't know .. I already explained this case I think the difference is most don't stream pretending to be that person, and also don't play in show matches pretending to be that person. That is where the difference is. It is one thing to make money from power leveling someone to GM, and a whole different matter to promote some else's brand (in this case a female) in order to generate stream revenue for that person and in turn to help set up show matches for that person through that stream, and then play in those show matches for even more money. I am not saying you should be banned, etc. And I am sure eventually your reputation will be restored, but for the time being, giving the full story would help a lot more than playing mostly ignorant. It will def take time. I am sorry , but I don't like drama , the story for me it's not important .. and I also don't know what you mean about ,, story'' .. I just found out that the fact that I used to play on that account created pain for some people , I will never do something like this again since it didn't benefited me in any way .. I was stupid , I would better try to play on my own and get a good reputation for my name.. eventho.. I don't have a vagina.. but atleast I should try to succed at image even in this way.. it did benefit you, who are you kidding here To be fair whatever benefit he received from smurfing for Vera he's getting exactly the opposite in negative press here. I think he just ends up right back at the drawing board so to speak.
Did he receive sex as an exchange?
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Northern Ireland25245 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:56 BounceDJC wrote:
Well, I might be stupid for it, but I'm gonna say from the little bit of evidence put in front of me, that I actually think DeathAngel might have just tangled up in something a bit above him.
There is the interesting point - his performances clearly merited the showmatches he played in. Why can't he get showmatches against people? His English is not up to the level of being able to 'network' like people have written repeatedly. Seems like he is someone who could have done with a team to firstly market him, and secondly guide him.
My two cents
Well I mean judging from his English, he's able to articulate reasonably well, but you can tell he's not a Grubby level English baller.
Vera's just weighed in with a rather contradictory statement to what DA has been saying, interesting.
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On September 25 2012 12:41 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
I am not entirely clueless and innocent , I already told you guys this
I am not an Angel , I am a DeathAngel.. I am a bad guy.. that's why I did this , I am not perfect.. I will never be.. I will be like this all my life I guess , I don't like being a saint
but I never thought ppl would came to book coaching from veralynn.. I thought vera likes to brag with her gm account and feels good like a gosu girl acting in balla style and being happy .. I was always skeptic about paid coaching.. seemed to me like ppl wanted only freecoaching and because veralynn was missing some aspects in the coaching.. they would just keep theyr mouths shut to be nice guys.. and continue.. but never pay for any coaching..
didn't even seemed to me like vera was interested in money.. but mostly in having a good time.. as the guy above posted.. she didn't even took the money that I won in the showmatches.. she refused it
my opinion.. she wanted to feel the GM balla lifestyle
I am an evil person , but I didn't wanted to make ppl donate millions of dollars to veralynn.. I would rather ask ppl to take coaching from me and make money myself :D
but I asked vera and she told me that ppl didn't took many paid coaching lessons from her as ppl say here .. so I really don't know who is right here.. I would mostly believe her.. rlly
How about answering the questions that matter. No one cares about ladder. I guess I can only speak for myself. So.. I care about the tournaments, the showmatches etc.
You are acting like people are saying things they aren't. Please respond to what matters.
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On September 25 2012 12:54 veralynn wrote:
First of all, I'm glad I got caught and I can finally end this - My intentions were to help grow e-sports which I achieved through running Z33K.TV, but this has obviously turned out horribly wrong and has accomplished the complete opposite to what my intentions were:
I'm a masters Zerg player and needed coaching to help me to get to Grandmasters. I contacted a website for a coach and was put in touch with Deathangel. However, instead of coaching, we discussed that he'd boost my account to Grandmasters to give me that initial boost to help me.
Once it got to grandmasters, he continued to play the account for me regularly to keep bonus pool down/keep it active. While this happened, I put up a coaching profile to coach people. As I had never coached people, I did numerous hours of free coaching on my stream.
While this happened, Deathangel continued to play the account and I tried to do some coaching etc. In total, I had 3 paid coaching students. Any feedback on coaching I received was from free coaching and NOT paid coaching. I have since refunded those students and apologise if it was not helpful.
As people requested to see me stream, I asked Deathangel to stream on the account for me. He streamed regularly but charged $20-$30 an hour for each stream he did. Outside of streaming, each game that Deathangel played, he charged $3 per game, and as he regularly played for me, he did mini-discounts.
When I was invited to play any event - Millenium Girl Tournament & AGL Invitational - that he played, he took the entire prize, which I have also refunded to the organisers - I am sorry for this being under false pretenses. I have refunded the money that I never received as I gave it to DeathAngel.
We subsequently agreed to play Showmatches and he was very happy to do them - I gave him 100% of the prizes. I did not invoice SixPoolGaming for the showmatch against Sjow or Cytoplasm and so never received any money from them - However, I sent the relevant prize to DeathAngel immediately. I never received the MilleniumTV Tarson Showmatch money (yet), but I have already sent him the prize for that.
The entire thing was a terrible idea, and I apologise to all people who were hurt by this.
I am especially sorry to Z33K.TV and Z33K.Com as I grew the casting organisation with the casters and am sorry to leave it. Rifkin, Badfatpanda, Pengwin, and the rest - You guys were so close to me and this spiralled out of control. Z33K.TV grew to cast Dreamhack Valencia, TSL Qualifiers, Pokerstrategy.com League and run its own $1,000 Team league and If I had stopped it earlier, perhaps we could've continued on to grow it more - I apologise for misleading you like this.
I am happy to step away from my position as head of Z33K.TV and will happily assist in any handover procedures necessary.
I am also sorry to sixpoolgaming.com for any damage caused to their reputation - they are a great site and helped me so much and I apologise to them.
What I have said here is 100% the truth from my perspective, and thus I do not intend to make any follow up posts regarding this - I am happy to step away from the Starcraft 2 Community in a professional capacity and bid you all farewell.
So, it begins.
Both people are accusing the other now. I can no longer trust either.
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On September 25 2012 12:54 veralynn wrote:
First of all, I'm glad I got caught and I can finally end this - My intentions were to help grow e-sports which I achieved through running Z33K.TV, but this has obviously turned out horribly wrong and has accomplished the complete opposite to what my intentions were:
I'm a masters Zerg player and needed coaching to help me to get to Grandmasters. I contacted a website for a coach and was put in touch with Deathangel. However, instead of coaching, we discussed that he'd boost my account to Grandmasters to give me that initial boost to help me.
Once it got to grandmasters, he continued to play the account for me regularly to keep bonus pool down/keep it active. While this happened, I put up a coaching profile to coach people. As I had never coached people, I did numerous hours of free coaching on my stream.
While this happened, Deathangel continued to play the account and I tried to do some coaching etc. In total, I had 3 paid coaching students. Any feedback on coaching I received was from free coaching and NOT paid coaching. I have since refunded those students and apologise if it was not helpful.
As people requested to see me stream, I asked Deathangel to stream on the account for me. He streamed regularly but charged $20-$30 an hour for each stream he did. Outside of streaming, each game that Deathangel played, he charged $3 per game, and as he regularly played for me, he did mini-discounts.
When I was invited to play any event - Millenium Girl Tournament & AGL Invitational - that he played, he took the entire prize, which I have also refunded to the organisers - I am sorry for this being under false pretenses. I have refunded the money that I never received as I gave it to DeathAngel.
We subsequently agreed to play Showmatches and he was very happy to do them - I gave him 100% of the prizes. I did not invoice SixPoolGaming for the showmatch against Sjow or Cytoplasm and so never received any money from them - However, I sent the relevant prize to DeathAngel immediately. I never received the MilleniumTV Tarson Showmatch money (yet), but I have already sent him the prize for that.
The entire thing was a terrible idea, and I apologise to all people who were hurt by this.
I am especially sorry to Z33K.TV and Z33K.Com as I grew the casting organisation with the casters and am sorry to leave it. Rifkin, Badfatpanda, Pengwin, and the rest - You guys were so close to me and this spiralled out of control. Z33K.TV grew to cast Dreamhack Valencia, TSL Qualifiers, Pokerstrategy.com League and run its own $1,000 Team league and If I had stopped it earlier, perhaps we could've continued on to grow it more - I apologise for misleading you like this.
I am happy to step away from my position as head of Z33K.TV and will happily assist in any handover procedures necessary.
I am also sorry to sixpoolgaming.com for any damage caused to their reputation - they are a great site and helped me so much and I apologise to them.
What I have said here is 100% the truth from my perspective, and thus I do not intend to make any follow up posts regarding this - I am happy to step away from the Starcraft 2 Community in a professional capacity and bid you all farewell.
oh look I was right, deathangel did benefit from this
ho ho ho, what u have to say for ur defense deathangel
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:54 veralynn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +First of all, I'm glad I got caught and I can finally end this - My intentions were to help grow e-sports which I achieved through running Z33K.TV, but this has obviously turned out horribly wrong and has accomplished the complete opposite to what my intentions were:
I'm a masters Zerg player and needed coaching to help me to get to Grandmasters. I contacted a website for a coach and was put in touch with Deathangel. However, instead of coaching, we discussed that he'd boost my account to Grandmasters to give me that initial boost to help me.
Once it got to grandmasters, he continued to play the account for me regularly to keep bonus pool down/keep it active. While this happened, I put up a coaching profile to coach people. As I had never coached people, I did numerous hours of free coaching on my stream.
While this happened, Deathangel continued to play the account and I tried to do some coaching etc. In total, I had 3 paid coaching students. Any feedback on coaching I received was from free coaching and NOT paid coaching. I have since refunded those students and apologise if it was not helpful.
As people requested to see me stream, I asked Deathangel to stream on the account for me. He streamed regularly but charged $20-$30 an hour for each stream he did. Outside of streaming, each game that Deathangel played, he charged $3 per game, and as he regularly played for me, he did mini-discounts.
When I was invited to play any event - Millenium Girl Tournament & AGL Invitational - that he played, he took the entire prize, which I have also refunded to the organisers - I am sorry for this being under false pretenses. I have refunded the money that I never received as I gave it to DeathAngel.
We subsequently agreed to play Showmatches and he was very happy to do them - I gave him 100% of the prizes. I did not invoice SixPoolGaming for the showmatch against Sjow or Cytoplasm and so never received any money from them - However, I sent the relevant prize to DeathAngel immediately. I never received the MilleniumTV Tarson Showmatch money (yet), but I have already sent him the prize for that.
The entire thing was a terrible idea, and I apologise to all people who were hurt by this.
I am especially sorry to Z33K.TV and Z33K.Com as I grew the casting organisation with the casters and am sorry to leave it. Rifkin, Badfatpanda, Pengwin, and the rest - You guys were so close to me and this spiralled out of control. Z33K.TV grew to cast Dreamhack Valencia, TSL Qualifiers, Pokerstrategy.com League and run its own $1,000 Team league and If I had stopped it earlier, perhaps we could've continued on to grow it more - I apologise for misleading you like this.
I am happy to step away from my position as head of Z33K.TV and will happily assist in any handover procedures necessary.
I am also sorry to sixpoolgaming.com for any damage caused to their reputation - they are a great site and helped me so much and I apologise to them.
What I have said here is 100% the truth from my perspective, and thus I do not intend to make any follow up posts regarding this - I am happy to step away from the Starcraft 2 Community in a professional capacity and bid you all farewell.
You talk a lot about money in this post, but this was about more than money. This was about integrity. Honesty. I'd also say sportsmanship, or even e-sportsmanship. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but if you're smurfing your way along the road I don't think anyone will ever believe that everything you did, you did for esports. Deathangel obviously was paid for his services, and you obviously benefited from them. Watching your interviews, and seeing how easily you lie and denigrate other female players (who Deathangel beat), I don't believe your tone in this message. Your and his fingerprints are all over this affair, and everything you did is stained with the lack of integrity you exhibited.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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