EPTVeraLynn; GM fraud - Page 41
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
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Keylime
United States33 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:07 ECHOZs wrote: Yeah because Sjow, DesRow and ToD all have vaginas right? Whoosh | ||
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DeathAngel[ro]
Romania79 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:01 ROOTFayth wrote: it did benefit you, who are you kidding here after refusing to pay your lost sc1 betgames , you shouldn't try to imagine everyone acts like you | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On September 25 2012 11:13 GT350 wrote: Poll: Ban VeraLynn in TL as though she never existed? Yes (263) No (32) 295 total votes Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in TL as though she never existed? Poll: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life? Yes (335) No (88) 423 total votes Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life? Poll: Ban DeathAngel[ro] in Esports for life? No (278) Yes (152) 430 total votes Your vote: Ban DeathAngel[ro] in Esports for life? VeraLynn is the one who should be punished for her actions, she asked someone else to play for her in order to boost her own image. DeathAngel surely did wrong by accepting do to do, but atleast I can't deny that he's got talent at sc2, and that he plays legit. | ||
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PviLLe3
United States305 Posts
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Rival
United States33 Posts
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: This is not only abysmal because it's fraud, but it's just plain disappointing because of the role model that VeraLynn pretended to be for other female gamers. To know that VeraLynn would specifically market herself as one of the best female players, when such a niche needs to be filled (there's almost no one significant except for Scarlett), makes it twice as bad in my book. It's incredibly, incredibly sad. to be fair, Scarlett fills the shit out of that niche by being pretty well-accepted as one of the best players in NA... if you're inspired by "some random girl is GM on EU yay!" but not by "a girl won WCS NA in utterly dominating fashion!" that's kind of your problem | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:15 Rival wrote: At least Death Angel admitted he did it. VeraLynn deleted everything from her Youtube, deleted her twitch account and twitter, and basically ran from the situation. Those who are scared as little children will act so. I would be willing to forgive her if she just came out and admitted her fault. But because she acted like a child, I have no issues with never letting this off of her record. To be an adult, you must act as an adult and take responsibility for your actions, especially when said actions are not positive/in your favor. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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SecondHand
United States329 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:19 Holytornados wrote: Those who are scared as little children will act so. I would be willing to forgive her if she just came out and admitted her fault. But because she acted like a child, I have no issues with never letting this off of her record. To be an adult, you must act as an adult and take responsibility for your actions, especially when said actions are not positive/in your favor. I would not be willing to to forgive her for her treachery if she came out and admitted her fault. It'd certainly reflect less poorly on her, but to be a deceiver for so long she has to understand that most people and I have nothing to say to that. | ||
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Starshaped
Sweden575 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:15 Rival wrote: At least Death Angel admitted he did it. VeraLynn deleted everything from her Youtube, deleted her twitch account and twitter, and basically ran from the situation. To be fair Veralynn has literally no chance of ever recovering from this, so I can see why she'd just leave everything instantly. Deathangel is still a decent player and has invested a lot into this game so he probably wants to have some sort of future in it. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43762 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:17 corpuscle wrote: to be fair, Scarlett fills the shit out of that niche by being pretty well-accepted as one of the best players in NA... if you're inspired by "some random girl is GM on EU yay!" but not by "a girl won WCS NA in utterly dominating fashion!" that's kind of your problem Oh I absolutely agree that Scarlett is by far the quintessential role model for female SC2 progamers; I was thinking more along the lines of hoping that really good female gamers would become more common and normalized as well though. Not just one girl that's freakishly good (i.e. a pure outlier), and so it would be realistic for more females to play more because they see a bunch of high level(-ish) girls. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23745 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:19 dAPhREAk wrote: lol. i like deathangel after this. "i wont get into showmatches because i dont possess a vagina." awesome! Blunt but, somewhat true. He's not a Code S baller, but he's not a bad player and it's pretty hard to break out from that kind of level without either being a Stephano level player, or having some other kind of gimmick going on. While I don't condone the guy's action, it's what happens when you elevate any girl who plays this game to positions far beyond what their play justifies. Of course Deathangel and his ilk might be tempted to take advantage of that. | ||
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:20 Blazinghand wrote: I would not be willing to to forgive her for her treachery if she came out and admitted her fault. It'd certainly reflect less poorly on her, but to be a deceiver for so long she has to understand that most people and I have nothing to say to that. Maybe forgive wasn't the right word. I think I really meant that I would be MORE willing to try and forgive her-- like let her have the opportunity to build up a new reputation from scratch if she could keep her record clean. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
On September 25 2012 09:40 iHirO wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yALkE.jpg) I died. Kawaii and desRow throwin bombs, yo. It's a shame people try to take shortcuts in achieving success, whether in esports or otherwise. Shits on all the hardwork other people are doing. Glad they didn't get away with it. | ||
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ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:08 rd wrote: I think the point is behind you -- splattered on the wall. It'd appear it went over your head. He comes off to me like he's entitled to be in showmatches for whatever reason. Most players get in showmatches because they work their ass off and make a name for themselves. Some get there because of their gender its how it works because its what brings in viewers. Look at what he said in his post "and I never got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited..". Here's a question why should he get invited? Most people probably didn't even know who he was until today. | ||
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
On September 25 2012 11:58 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: I am sorry , but I don't like drama , the story for me it's not important .. and I also don't know what you mean about ,, story'' .. I just found out that the fact that I used to play on that account created pain for some people , I will never do something like this again since it didn't benefited me in any way .. I was stupid , I would better try to play on my own and get a good reputation for my name.. eventho.. I don't have a vagina.. but atleast I should try to succed at image even in this way.. DeathAngel - Please answer some questions. You are acting very ignorant. And making your roll seem very innocent and small. You act as though all you did was play on ladder with what was in your eyes a "smurft account". Did you play as veralynn in show-matches and tournaments? Did you think you were representing yourself? Your story seems all too convenient. Playing ladder is one thing, playing in show-matches and online tournaments is a completely different thing. You claim to be able to win these in your own name, so why didn't you? You claim to have no incentive from any of this other than practicing. Didn't you think it was weird that you were practicing during show-matches and tournaments for another person? Why wouldn't you want your own name showing in results? None of this makes sense to me. Do you even admit that what you did was wrong. Don't give me crap about intentions. You knew what you were doing and you did it more than once. Intentions are out the window. You intended to trick the community. If you could be so kind as to reply to all of my questions, I will be very satisfied regardless of your answers. | ||
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MMDollar
Bulgaria39 Posts
On September 25 2012 10:49 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: Hello everyone This is DeathAngel 1st : hats of to KawaiiRice , very smart and observant guy and nice job in studying all the stuff , remember playing you on both accounts on ladder , you being fateofseven on EU server 2nd : yea.. I'm a scumbag and I played on other ppl accounts , I also play on some smurfs too not only on my nick , just to try different strategies etc. 3rd : I am very sorry to everyone affected by this , I basically played on someone's else account , make it into GM .. wich seems ok , like a smurf for me.. but the effects were very bad it seems I am very sorry for this , but I played legit starcraft , not map hackign or something .. I am interested in the competitive aspect of the game.. and I never got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited.. was amazed when I found out that there are so many ppl interested to see a girl play.. so I accepted to play.. wich is bad.. I am such a scumbag.. I should just refuse it.. I also hurt some ppl it seems , I just wanted to play some good matches of sc2 in wich seemed a friendly showmatch .. I just wanted to see if I am skilled enough to beat someone good in a showmatch . What can I say.. I shouldn't done that.. I would also feel bad if someone would come pretending to be someone else and beating me.. feels bad , but I had no interest in scamming someone or put them to get coaching from veralynn. I just played on her account as a smurf of mine , and now I feel kind of dumb hearing ppl paid coaching lessons.. I thought there was only free coaching cause I would see free coaching all the time when I was looking at her stream , I am pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding regarding this. Feel sorry ppl were so naive , but that must be a lesson also , why would you take lessons from a girl just because she is gm , and also , don't you see that the coaching is not GM level ? or maybe the coaching was good and deserved the money.. I have no ideea and I feel very sorry if the things were like this. I should also play only my own account from now on , I am not interested in scamming ppl for money or other stuff like that.. I am a legit player and I can play and win showmatches against those players on my own , also I can coach on my own and give good coaching and good advices , what I did was stupid and didn't benefit me in any way . I really feel sorry , I just wanted to play some good games , my intentions were good.. but.. stuff happens.. such a sick life.. I trully feel very sorry for the guys that were upset to have lost to a ,,girl'' , you guys actually lost to me . Also very sorry for my english. It's 5am and I am tired. I am kind of a guy that sold a gun to a random guy on the street then realising the crime PS . Never trust women , they are evil. Your post is full of excuses and you continue to lie to the community we both know it is against Blizzard rules to share an account. Sorry but I call your post pure bs, you wrote here just because this situation will explode in your face. | ||
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