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As emotionally invested as people are on this topic, TL rules still apply. That includes flaming and ad hominem attacks.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 30 2012 07:29 GMT
#1821
Destiny and his Root part ways with his brain
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 30 2012 07:31 GMT
#1822
On August 30 2012 16:19 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 16:12 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Girl is an idiot for sending nude pics . +1 on the idiot counter for her.
Destiny is an idiot for blabbing about it to others . +1 counter for him
Destiny again is being an idiot for letting her get access to private pics of his junk. +1 destiny
Girl is an idiot for posting his pictures online, causing a huuuge shit storm and making the whole community know about it and about how she send nude pictures of herself TO DESTINY WHAT DID YOU EXPECT. +1 for her

Result:
Girl 2:2 Destiny , 94% on the idiot meter,
nobody wins, both lose


Yeah, but Destiny lost his job and career. She just lost... what? in two days nobody will remember about her.

I'm not a fan of Destiny and his big mouth but I still can't understand why some people still think the monster is he, while is clearly obvious that it is she.

Next time think twice about sending nude pics of you to a man. Unless you can accept his friends are gonna see you nude also, and analize every and all the details. Like the girls don't do it also.

He didn't lose his career, he said he'll be at ministry of win going "hardcore" with sc2. He doesn't seem very affected by this, and knowing his personality he'll forget about this in a couple days.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 30 2012 07:32 GMT
#1823
On August 30 2012 15:48 maliceee wrote:
awful both ways. But....a personal fight about a guy showing nudes to two friends =/= ruining a professional career and showing nudes to 40,000+ people.


This is what most people forget to take into account when speaking from their high horses. I hope something like this happens to them at work to stop them from judging so hard other people and lives.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 07:35:28
August 30 2012 07:33 GMT
#1824
What a shame. I always thought ROOT was a team of guys who didn't give a fuck and that was what was cool about them and seperated them from the rest and made me support them


But I guess in these days of SC2, everyone is the bitch of douchebags that whine to sponsors. Also, the girl is a cunt.



On August 30 2012 16:32 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 15:48 maliceee wrote:
awful both ways. But....a personal fight about a guy showing nudes to two friends =/= ruining a professional career and showing nudes to 40,000+ people.


This is what most people forget to take into account when speaking from their high horses. I hope something like this happens to them at work to stop them from judging so hard other people and lives.



These comments exactly.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 30 2012 07:34 GMT
#1825
I dont agree with his actions...but the people who emailed sponsors about this are 3x worse. Those guys are killing esports. It does nobody good if sponsors pull out.

Leave the fucking sponsor emails out of things like this.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
rogzardo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
610 Posts
August 30 2012 07:35 GMT
#1826
what a lame girl.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 30 2012 07:36 GMT
#1827
...she took his JOB.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
August 30 2012 07:39 GMT
#1828
thats a dayummm shame.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 30 2012 07:41 GMT
#1829
On August 30 2012 16:29 Megiddosc wrote:
Defacer and JimmyJRaynor: Congratulations, you two are both idiots who didn't even bother to read the very first post of the thread that provides nearly all explanations for this.


Megiddosc: I didn't realize the second post was updated with more information, since I last read the first page earlier in the evening. It's not my job to re-read the second post of the thread, over and over. The white header hasn't been updated, either.

If you want to be shitty to somebody, complain to a mod about how out-of-date the OP or thread warning is.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
August 30 2012 07:42 GMT
#1830
... if you don't want the world to see nude pictures, don't have them.

Goes for both.

Either way, this doesn't influence my opinion about Destiny in any way. I still think there's room in the scene for a personality like his, and ... well ... a dick picture ... a nude ... it's not nice, but it's nowhere near the worst in the world either to me.
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
August 30 2012 07:42 GMT
#1831
Catz did what he had to do. I feel really bad for Destiny though. If it wasn't for all the whiny b*tches in this community that mail teams/sponsors when their feelings or whatever get hurt, then a man wouldnt have lost his job. An eye for an eye? yeah right...
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
August 30 2012 07:43 GMT
#1832
On August 30 2012 16:36 Bill Murray wrote:
...she took his JOB.


he took his own job. sharing dick picks wasnt what got him fired; the chat convo and his immature reaction was what got him fired.
(TT~TT)
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
August 30 2012 07:43 GMT
#1833
Can't say I'm surpriosed about this. gl to both of them.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Duval
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium144 Posts
August 30 2012 07:43 GMT
#1834
am I the only one who feels like letting the sponsors know how dissappointed I am about destiny being released because he's ..... a guy?
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
August 30 2012 07:45 GMT
#1835
On August 30 2012 16:43 Duval wrote:
am I the only one who feels like letting the sponsors know how dissappointed I am about destiny being released because he's ..... a guy?


don't be ridiculous. if you don't want to be released don't do what destiny did. enough said.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 30 2012 07:55 GMT
#1836
On August 30 2012 16:19 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 16:12 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Girl is an idiot for sending nude pics . +1 on the idiot counter for her.
Destiny is an idiot for blabbing about it to others . +1 counter for him
Destiny again is being an idiot for letting her get access to private pics of his junk. +1 destiny
Girl is an idiot for posting his pictures online, causing a huuuge shit storm and making the whole community know about it and about how she send nude pictures of herself TO DESTINY WHAT DID YOU EXPECT. +1 for her

Result:
Girl 2:2 Destiny , 94% on the idiot meter,
nobody wins, both lose


Yeah, but Destiny lost his job and career. She just lost... what? in two days nobody will remember about her.

I'm not a fan of Destiny and his big mouth but I still can't understand why some people still think the monster is he, while is clearly obvious that it is she.

Next time think twice about sending nude pics of you to a man. Unless you can accept his friends are gonna see you nude also, and analize every and all the details. Like the girls don't do it also.


Where does it say Destiny lost his carreer ? He got removed from a team that's it. He's a profesional streamer, i'll take your statement when it's confirmed viewers dropped in mass and he can no longer suport himself.

Also Because you are a streamer your putting yourself at risk when you start asking for nude pics and pass them around to your bro's.
Actions gives reaction and the more known you are the bigger the reaction, and that is a simple fact Destiny should have realised when he started this all.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 30 2012 07:56 GMT
#1837
On August 30 2012 16:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 16:02 Defacer wrote:
He's a 20-something father that plays SC2 in his bedroom. SC2 is a still a small scene with a limited amount of prize money available to win -- which doesn't really make a difference for Destiny, since he's not very good at SC2, with no ....
..... more mature or serious person -- including athletes -- would know better than to interact with 15 year-old girl in the first place. And frankly, Destiny isn't a good or marketable enough player to lose a sponsor over.



whoa whoa whoa....stop right there..
what?

she is 15?

wtf?

can't wait to hear Destiny's super philosophical uber silver tongued rationalization for what may be a crime.
Destiny's best move might be to pull an "OJ" and not say anything ever.

After getting some sound legal advice.. .this incident might finally shut him up.

What is this guy doing giving people his email, twitter etc passwords?


Nice Play...

Shakespeare.

1. She is not 15.. still. She still, now that we're 90 whatever pages in, still not 15 years old. She's in college.
2. She has his passwords because she helped him with scheduling and the like a long time ago.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 08:05:48
August 30 2012 07:58 GMT
#1838
On August 30 2012 16:20 Ozcollo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 16:10 TheExile19 wrote:
On August 30 2012 15:58 ampson wrote:
I really hope that the people in r/SRS and the bluetea apologists/misogyny accusers in this thread don't represent feminists as a whole.... It's a noble cause to promote gender equality (though not entirely necessary in some developed countries), but those assholes decided that they would destroy an entire team's sponsors based on the acts of one member that they don't agree with. They didn't even have insight to the scene and didn't know what the consequences would be for multiple people. I just hope that feminists as a whole aren't as short-sighted and callous as the idiots on reddit.

Consider if the positions were reversed. Bluetea posts a pic of destiny to 2 friends on skype, says he has a nice attractive penis but a hideous face. Destiny hacks her skype, gets pissed about his looks being insulted in a private conversation, and posts a naked picture of her to 40k plus people. Bluetea then gets kicked out of her college for the controversy, but doesn't leak the pictures of destiny.

Now with the bullshit misogyny angle gone in that hypothetical situation, who gets supported there? One person is so clearly in the wrong that it's ridiculous. In the real world, it's the exact same situation, just with the genders reversed. Honestly, at this point I think the only ones still damning Destiny are die-hard haters who want destiny eliminated from the scene no matter what, die-hard feminists who will never admit a woman is in the wrong, and die-hard white knights who believe that if they defend enough women on the internet one will magically love them.


so you replace minor, debatable misogyny with minor, debatable misandry and much less likely consequences? comparing root dropping destiny to a college expelling bluetea is just the worst analogy imaginable and becomes a complete non-sequitur.

there are very, very few people coming out and supporting bluetea's decision to punish destiny in a logical manner but rather in an emotional, empathetic manner - we can understand her immediate impulse for revenge, because people sharing your ultra-personal information like that is the sort of thing that clouds your judgment. what excuse did destiny have for fucking any of what he did besides casual, practiced callousness and what honestly comes off to me as a similarly casual disregard for the feelings of a woman when the bros need their potential fap material, bro?


He should have used her job in the analogy instead of her college. Other than that it's an apt analogy. He still made a great point that you didn't address. Would you be defending Steven's actions if he was the one that took revenge? I'm willing to bet most would be much less empathetic.

His conversation was crude but it was also supposed to be private. It's also one that most men I know have quite often.
Show nested quote +

depending on the states, what you and your friends are doing is illegal (photo part) and extremely insensitive to the person involved.

But I don't expect you to understand that


Mind finding the law where sharing a photo in private with friends is illegal? I understand you see it as insensitive, I just don't care what you think.

On August 30 2012 16:20 Ozcollo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 16:10 TheExile19 wrote:
On August 30 2012 15:58 ampson wrote:
I really hope that the people in r/SRS and the bluetea apologists/misogyny accusers in this thread don't represent feminists as a whole.... It's a noble cause to promote gender equality (though not entirely necessary in some developed countries), but those assholes decided that they would destroy an entire team's sponsors based on the acts of one member that they don't agree with. They didn't even have insight to the scene and didn't know what the consequences would be for multiple people. I just hope that feminists as a whole aren't as short-sighted and callous as the idiots on reddit.

Consider if the positions were reversed. Bluetea posts a pic of destiny to 2 friends on skype, says he has a nice attractive penis but a hideous face. Destiny hacks her skype, gets pissed about his looks being insulted in a private conversation, and posts a naked picture of her to 40k plus people. Bluetea then gets kicked out of her college for the controversy, but doesn't leak the pictures of destiny.

Now with the bullshit misogyny angle gone in that hypothetical situation, who gets supported there? One person is so clearly in the wrong that it's ridiculous. In the real world, it's the exact same situation, just with the genders reversed. Honestly, at this point I think the only ones still damning Destiny are die-hard haters who want destiny eliminated from the scene no matter what, die-hard feminists who will never admit a woman is in the wrong, and die-hard white knights who believe that if they defend enough women on the internet one will magically love them.


so you replace minor, debatable misogyny with minor, debatable misandry and much less likely consequences? comparing root dropping destiny to a college expelling bluetea is just the worst analogy imaginable and becomes a complete non-sequitur.

there are very, very few people coming out and supporting bluetea's decision to punish destiny in a logical manner but rather in an emotional, empathetic manner - we can understand her immediate impulse for revenge, because people sharing your ultra-personal information like that is the sort of thing that clouds your judgment. what excuse did destiny have for fucking any of what he did besides casual, practiced callousness and what honestly comes off to me as a similarly casual disregard for the feelings of a woman when the bros need their potential fap material, bro?


He should have used her job in the analogy instead of her college. Other than that it's an apt analogy. He still made a great point that you didn't address. Would you be defending Steven's actions if he was the one that took revenge? I'm willing to bet most would be much less empathetic.

His conversation was crude but it was also supposed to be private. It's also one that most men I know have quite often.
Show nested quote +

depending on the states, what you and your friends are doing is illegal (photo part) and extremely insensitive to the person involved.

But I don't expect you to understand that


Mind finding the law where sharing a photo in private with friends is illegal? I understand you see it as insensitive, I just don't care what you think.


Not a lawyer, but in Michigan it is against the law to post picture with intent to harass or threaten other person. If any of your close buds ever leaked, you know where the blame will be heading.

It can also be considered Invasion of privacy, though much harder to prove.

So you do understand that it is insensitive, but you don't care for it? Or do you mean that you don't think it is insensitive?

There's a perfect word that describes unethical people like you
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 30 2012 08:00 GMT
#1839
On August 30 2012 16:41 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 16:29 Megiddosc wrote:
Defacer and JimmyJRaynor: Congratulations, you two are both idiots who didn't even bother to read the very first post of the thread that provides nearly all explanations for this.


Megiddosc: I didn't realize the second post was updated with more information, since I last read the first page earlier in the evening. It's not my job to re-read the second post of the thread, over and over. The white header hasn't been updated, either.

If you want to be shitty to somebody, complain to a mod about how out-of-date the OP or thread warning is.

It sure isn't your job to re-read posts, or to find out the facts before you post. If you aren't willing to find out the facts, put effort in, or use common sense (ex: "Perhaps the OP or following posts were updated, I will check them real quick") then either
a) don't post
b) put a lot of "from what I've read"s and "from what I understand"s in your posts.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 30 2012 08:01 GMT
#1840
On August 30 2012 16:31 Roe wrote:

Yeah, but Destiny lost his job and career. She just lost... what? in two days nobody will remember about her.

I'm not a fan of Destiny and his big mouth but I still can't understand why some people still think the monster is he, while is clearly obvious that it is she.

Next time think twice about sending nude pics of you to a man. Unless you can accept his friends are gonna see you nude also, and analize every and all the details. Like the girls don't do it also.


If you haven't noticed, getting dropped by teams is kind of a pattern for Destiny, and can be directly attributed to his laissez-faire, I-don't-care-what-other-people-say-or-think personality.

Well, sponsors tend to care what people think. And so do girls. And most people that don't sit around playing computer games all day.

Only teenage boys pretend not to care what other people think, but they're are so easily outraged it's pathetically transparent that they do.

When you're younger it's easy to confuse 'being true to yourself' with 'being an inconsiderate jackass'. The sad thing is, Destiny is a little too old for that and should know better by now.

Let's put it this way: someone with a little bit more maturity probably wouldn't talk shit about this girl, share nude pics of her with his buds, and none of this would have happened.

While I don't think he deserves to be kicked off a team, he was basically asking for trouble. Guys like Destiny will always have problems in their careers because of their I-don't-give-a-fuck-attitude, and will always have to make excuses about how unfair the world is and everyone is bullshit.

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