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zidaneshead
245 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:09 ROOTFayth wrote: oh yeah, you think he doesn't talk shit behind people's back in private? As funny as this thread is, you're probably gonna regret posting stuff like this in the future. | ||
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nikoYO
Germany131 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:10 Flamingo777 wrote: Woww... Just read the Reddit stuff... I completely understand now why Root had to drop Destiny. yes and more people should read it! they got all the dirt on him in one nice thread LOL http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/ytijd/effortpost_starcraft_2_player_steve_bonnell_aka/ | ||
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oBlade
United States5639 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:09 Dundron2000 wrote: i don't think that what you just said had very much to do with what i did. but no, there are also moral reasons not to do something The reason is you're just black boxing the mechanism of "this will get me fired." It's not the case that bad things always get people fired, or that people who don't do bad things don't get fired. There are ethical bases for an expectation of privacy. What's the reason I should care at all what other people do in private? On August 30 2012 11:12 nikoYO wrote: yes and more people should read it! they got all the dirt on him in one nice thread LOL http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/ytijd/effortpost_starcraft_2_player_steve_bonnell_aka/ I lost it at "getting fired from Team Liquid." Whoever wrote into sponsors must have had dubious motivations and a tenuous connection to the community, as they apparently don't know anything about Starcraft | ||
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DMSev
United States11 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:11 ROOTFayth wrote: every pro out there probably takes things too far in private.... geez what the fuck the only difference is that the other pros don't have people inside their accounts, stalking their shit, watching their chatlogs. which i think is quite frankly the only explanation for her having seen that log if you or TT1 didn't leak. | ||
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valium
United States251 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:12 ROOTFayth wrote: I'm really just the same, "blunt" and you see people calling us 3 all terrible persons for having this conversation... No, I called destiny a terrible person. Right now though, I am calling you illiterate. | ||
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Khang
United States24 Posts
Idra is a dick, he got some shit for being an ass to avilo. Nothing like this. But, still, he isn't without critics. People despise EG as a whole.. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:11 CursOr wrote: I knew he would blow it. But this is faster than I expected. Damn. He makes Juan and Idra look like pillars of the community. Keep streaming Steven, please be more careful an grow up just a tad. Nobody's leaked private chats of them. I'm sure if we had limitless access to private pro conversations, a lot of players would be vilified. | ||
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LuisFrost
Mexico130 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:12 zidaneshead wrote: As funny as this thread is, you're probably gonna regret posting stuff like this in the future. lol seriously how naive can people be, you see idra talk shit about other players all the time in front of the cam, you think he doesn't say those things behind their backs either? wtf lol everybody is going to say negative things about someone else at some point in his life, the fact the there was a creepy stalker girl logged in to read it and leak it for revenge doesn't make it worse | ||
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:12 ROOTFayth wrote: I'm really just the same, "blunt" and you see people calling us 3 all terrible persons for having this conversation... lets be honest here, ive had multiple conversations like this with my friends over skype/msn/irc w/e u want... i dont see this as that bad, i dont see why people are jumping to conclusions about u three. anyways sad for ROOT and i hope they go for, totally understandable situation though, this could severely hinder their future sponsors to pick ROOT up. ROOT/DESTINY HWAITING! <3 | ||
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iamcup
Finland58 Posts
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:11 MysteryTerran wrote: This needed to happen before ROOT could really be considered a professional team. Any team that would support a low life like Destiny obviously has no place in E-Sports. If Aaron Rodgers acted like Destiny do you think he would still be playing in the NFL? I don't think so. This whole incident really shows his own level of insecurity.. Going behind a friend's back and doing some shit like he did is just disgusting.. The girl trusted him with the pictures, but he went and gave them out to friends... The worst part of all of this is obviously him sending her a picture of his dong. I honestly thought that weird lonely guys on chat roulette did that sorta stuff, and not someone who's suppose to be a "Professional" gamer. It's quite unfortunate that someone with so much talent and intelligence could be such a horrible person.. But his actions still don't surprise me lol Good move ROOT Wait, so what you're saying is that it's alright for a female to send nudes to a guy, but not the other way around? And if you do send pictures of your dong to a girl, especially after she had sent nudes to you, you're weird and lonely? God damn mang, you just went full derp. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:14 valium wrote: No, I called destiny a terrible person. Right now though, I am calling you illiterate. back at you | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25574 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:11 iky43210 wrote: And yet sponsors bailed when drama happened. They wanted destiny's personality and his charisma, but they don't want anything from his drama. Anyway, I don't see the point of what exactly the sponsors want is any relevant to this issues. The point is that you can get fired for participating or doing things that has no correlation with the job you have at hand. Conduct yourself as such so you don't get under scrutiny in these problems Or maybe employers should gain more of a sense of perspective about things. I've heard of people who get fired for what's on their social networking page or whatever. I dislike this growing erosion of the divide between private conduct and public conduct I suppose. In this case I don't think Destiny was wise, but equally his behaviour is that terrible. Again though, he's pretty much earning money from streaming so it's not equivalent to getting fired I suppose. A good comparison is actually Anthony Wiener. Of course he was a member of the House of Representatives, so when his penis pic got leaked he was going to have to resign. However as I saw him he was a pretty open and relatively courageous legislator, or at least actually vouched for his district. It's just sad that we live in a world where getting your penis out is a much more egregious offense than rank incompetence or any other number of things you want to name. | ||
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:13 oBlade wrote: The reason is you're just black boxing the mechanism of "this will get me fired." It's not the case that bad things always get people fired, or that people who don't do bad things don't get fired. There are ethical bases for an expectation of privacy. What's the reason I should care at all what other people do in private? the expectation of privacy is a mistake and nothing that should be assumed. thats not my opinion thats how things are. he's a public figure on a team whose revenue is dependent on sponsorships therefore what he does in private could have consequences for him. all the while you may not care but other people may | ||
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zidaneshead
245 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:15 ROOTFayth wrote: lol seriously how naive can people be, you see idra talk shit about other players all the time in front of the cam, you think he doesn't say those things behind their backs either? wtf lol everybody is going to say negative things about someone else at some point in his life, the fact the there was a creepy stalker girl logged in to read it and leak it for revenge doesn't make it worse I'm just saying from one guy to another it's never a good idea to name drop specific people in cases like this. | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:15 ROOTFayth wrote: lol seriously how naive can people be, you see idra talk shit about other players all the time in front of the cam, you think he doesn't say those things behind their backs either? wtf lol everybody is going to say negative things about someone else at some point in his life, the fact the there was a creepy stalker girl logged in to read it and leak it for revenge doesn't make it worse It is less about talking shit, and more about spreading nude photos of a girl without her consent. Honestly you are just making things worse for Destiny, you really should stop arguing. | ||
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valium
United States251 Posts
Nice play for cleverness, you singled me out. therefore, accusing me of such. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:18 valium wrote: Nice play for cleverness, you singled me out. therefore, accusing me of such. of course you didn't understand what I just said therefore illiterate, I win 1-0 your turn | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On August 30 2012 11:11 ROOTFayth wrote: every pro out there probably takes things too far in private.... geez what the fuck you know, it's entirely possible that some players actually embody the word "professional". it's kind of awkward that you're even hinting at some sort of equivalency between most pro players and destiny's never-ending derpy antics, though I assume it's being done in good faith and friendship. anyway, I'm a little lost as to how the loss of destiny impacts either him or ROOT. people can use this incident to snipe from the sidelines of the email sponsors/don't email argument, but he hasn't been relevant anywhere but his self-contained streaming revenue world in a very long time. ROOT doesn't need him and his absurd personal drama, destiny doesn't need ROOT, what's the problem besides that destiny can't stop sabotaging himself and that some people are sad because even destiny's friends have to professionally disassociate themselves with his BS? | ||
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