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hey guys did you read this post? it was on page 20 something
On August 30 2012 07:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 06:31 KimJongChill wrote:
So basically girl gets pissed off for being called ugly, invades stevens personal privacy, and harms his career/livelihood. She got her feelings hurt, steven gets his life hurt. Don't get me wrong, ROOT was right to "let go" steven, but I can't believe people are trying to whiteknight for this girl who grossly overreacted with what was probably a good idea of the potential consequences. Also can't believe there are people in here who think the convo was "disgusting" or something, do you guys even live in real life? A lot of people are so insecure that they need to publicly post these condescending comments from their high horses, hoping to claim some sort of "moral high ground". Plus there will always be white knights on the internet. The girl overreacted quite a bit over something she was never supposed to have known, private conversations are private for a reason y'know. I hope that if Destiny is able to make a case in court and sue her for leaking said conversations or maybe invading his privacy then he does it. (I'm not very familiar with the US legislation or court system, unfortunately - maybe that's not feasible at all) That said I'm not a fan of Destiny. He has done some stupid shit. Maybe he does need to grow up. But I think all of the people who genuinely get offended by this should grow the fuck up too. Stop being so butthurt over trivial nonsense that does not affect your own life in any shape, way or form at all. Seriously, the pussification of this world and the tendency towards a more politically correct society is downright pathetic. But in fact I don't think it's people who got offended that emailed Destiny's sponsors. At least not this time. I think it's just people who hate him with a passion and want to see his career burn to the ground; people who probably didn't bother to read both sides of the story or try to comprehend what they read in the first place. And it's those people who will eventually ruin eSports because they don't bother checking facts (at least the facts that are available anyway) before sending a feedback message to sponsors. And they're only a vocal minority too, it probably wouldn't be as bad if those of us who are lazy (myself included) messaged sponsors thanking them for the support of this scene that we love so much. /rant
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i'm going to drop a bombshell on all you poor little kids. 6-7 is average. you are below average if you are describing it as huge. also, you are describing dicks on the internet...
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On August 30 2012 09:09 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:07 Heavenlee wrote:On August 30 2012 09:05 Megiddosc wrote:On August 30 2012 09:01 solidbebe wrote:On August 30 2012 08:49 absalom86 wrote:On August 30 2012 04:47 Medrea wrote:Destiny posted this on reddit. Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends.
I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG.
I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life.
Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends.
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid? Holy shit this guy has a fucking nasty personality. What the hell man. Don't do that if you want to be known as being better than that. I don't think you can sink lower than threatening a person in a tone like that. Destiny could have tried to pull this back somehow and talk his way out of it since it was a personal conversation, but that statement alone is enough to condemn the man, at least for me. Wow that post seriously looks like hes some kind of fucked up loverboy that blackmails girls into doing what he wants. I never really thought too much of him but he truly is a piece of scum. If he is "truly a piece of scum" then why are there pics of Destiny's penis all over the internet and not any of Bluetea nude? I'd say because these guys acting like this were raised by their single mom to lick women's feet. I really find it disgusting when guys lie down and roll over when the "victim" is a girl. People should be treated equally in a fair world, so imagine the situations were reversed. If he posted her nude photos all over the internet as a childish, vindictive little revenge, would you call her "a fucked up lovergirl that blackmails boys into doing what she wants" when she threatens to inform his employer and dean? On the other hand, the basis for this entire situation is a bunch of horny twenty-something guys ogling pictures of a girl and rating her. Don't pretend you have any idea how to talk about gender issues when you're just some kid on TL, okay?
Um, on the other hand, she changed his passwords, put a picture of his dick on his twitter with almost 40k fans, gets him fired from his job? I think that's a bit worse than horny twenty-something guys ogling pictures of a girl and rating her.
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On August 30 2012 08:56 Yggdrazil wrote:" I had his email password from when I used to help schedule his lessons. I changed his email password, which enabled me to change his Twitter and Skype passwords. I have a folder full of dick picks and, because I am so nice, tried to choose the most flattering to post." Where does she say she found the pics with the password ? From what i read, i understand she already had those pics...
Bluetea isn't the 15 year old. Read the chat, he explicitly says it's a different girl 3 LINES AFTER HE MENTIONS THE 15 YEAR OLD.
Jesus, there's needs to be a fucking reading comprehension test to join TL.
No legal issues, just an asshole issue.
Which one of the two of them is a bigger asshole....is questionable.
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On August 30 2012 09:07 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:05 Megiddosc wrote:On August 30 2012 09:01 solidbebe wrote:On August 30 2012 08:49 absalom86 wrote:On August 30 2012 04:47 Medrea wrote:Destiny posted this on reddit. Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends.
I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG.
I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life.
Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends.
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid? Holy shit this guy has a fucking nasty personality. What the hell man. Don't do that if you want to be known as being better than that. I don't think you can sink lower than threatening a person in a tone like that. Destiny could have tried to pull this back somehow and talk his way out of it since it was a personal conversation, but that statement alone is enough to condemn the man, at least for me. Wow that post seriously looks like hes some kind of fucked up loverboy that blackmails girls into doing what he wants. I never really thought too much of him but he truly is a piece of scum. If he is "truly a piece of scum" then why are there pics of Destiny's penis all over the internet and not any of Bluetea nude? I'd say because these guys acting like this were raised by their single mom to lick women's feet. I really find it disgusting when guys lie down and roll over when the "victim" is a girl. People should be treated equally in a fair world, so imagine the situations were reversed. If he posted her nude photos all over the internet as a childish, vindictive little revenge, would that person have called her "a fucked up lovergirl that blackmails boys into doing what she wants" when she threatens to inform his employer and dean? I somehow doubt it.
just because A (what blue did) is wrong doesn't mean B (destiny sharing nude pics in a chat) must be right. Yet, Destiny is/ or rather wants to be/ a publicish figure and so he needs to bear the consequences of his behaviour, which might be a harder hit for his carreer than for that of this girl. That's life.
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I wonder what would have happened were the chick in question not so tech savvy or involved in gaming. I mean Bluetea was initially Destiny's 2v2 partner for some LAN (I don't remember if they actually attended or not), in fact I even played against them on ladder when they were practicing a very long time ago. I guess it was his mistake to cross a person that actually had some knowledge of his internet life and was thus capable of something like this. Because if it was just some random chick with no internet presence, we wouldn't be talking about this now.
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On August 30 2012 09:12 snailz wrote:hey guys did you read this post? it was on page 20 something Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 07:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 30 2012 06:31 KimJongChill wrote:
So basically girl gets pissed off for being called ugly, invades stevens personal privacy, and harms his career/livelihood. She got her feelings hurt, steven gets his life hurt. Don't get me wrong, ROOT was right to "let go" steven, but I can't believe people are trying to whiteknight for this girl who grossly overreacted with what was probably a good idea of the potential consequences. Also can't believe there are people in here who think the convo was "disgusting" or something, do you guys even live in real life? A lot of people are so insecure that they need to publicly post these condescending comments from their high horses, hoping to claim some sort of "moral high ground". Plus there will always be white knights on the internet. The girl overreacted quite a bit over something she was never supposed to have known, private conversations are private for a reason y'know. I hope that if Destiny is able to make a case in court and sue her for leaking said conversations or maybe invading his privacy then he does it. (I'm not very familiar with the US legislation or court system, unfortunately - maybe that's not feasible at all) That said I'm not a fan of Destiny. He has done some stupid shit. Maybe he does need to grow up. But I think all of the people who genuinely get offended by this should grow the fuck up too. Stop being so butthurt over trivial nonsense that does not affect your own life in any shape, way or form at all. Seriously, the pussification of this world and the tendency towards a more politically correct society is downright pathetic. But in fact I don't think it's people who got offended that emailed Destiny's sponsors. At least not this time. I think it's just people who hate him with a passion and want to see his career burn to the ground; people who probably didn't bother to read both sides of the story or try to comprehend what they read in the first place. And it's those people who will eventually ruin eSports because they don't bother checking facts (at least the facts that are available anyway) before sending a feedback message to sponsors. And they're only a vocal minority too, it probably wouldn't be as bad if those of us who are lazy (myself included) messaged sponsors thanking them for the support of this scene that we love so much. /rant
Thanks for the bump, it was a fine post that was shunted down the queue by the usual idiots who come into a thread, don't read it and go 'omg Destiny got nudes off a 15yo' or something.
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On August 30 2012 09:10 ReaperCo wrote:
Okej so a pic of his huge dick where released and he talked some shit witch where supposed to be private, i dont really care about that. Am i missing something here?
wut?
User was warned for this post
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On August 30 2012 09:11 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:09 lazyitachi wrote:
It's not like Destiny does to Poland and bam.. he can actually compete in SC2.
It's like saying he went to the mecca of SC2 in Korea and actually got good enough (which he didn't)
GG Destiny... Why is he still featured? Because he is good? Popular? The latter I believe.. Same deal with 90% of people involved in esports. Take it or leave it. Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:09 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 09:07 Dfgj wrote:On August 30 2012 09:05 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 09:03 Dfgj wrote:On August 30 2012 09:00 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 08:26 Dfgj wrote:On August 30 2012 08:23 Enzymatic wrote:On August 30 2012 08:21 ninjamyst wrote:
sooo Destiny got into trouble because he's a normal guy like everyone else? No, he got into "trouble" because he brought High-School level drama into a sponsored team of grown-ups, and the esports scene. You Destiny fanboys sure are naive and good at playing ignorant. You're going to have to explain how a private conversation is 'bringing drama into a sponsored team'. The person who brought the drama is whoever leaked the conversation and turned it into a public issue. because its not private anymore. derp Did you not read the second half of my post, or any information about the issue? Destiny did not make it public. It was not an issue for the SC2 scene at all. It was made public by someone else. it doesn't matter if it was destiny that made it public or not, but fact that this embarrassment was made public. The whys and hows is no importance to sponsors and teams, only the fact that this resulted in making them look bad. It matters if we're discussing the sentence '[Destiny] brought High-School level drama into a sponsored team of grown-ups', when the drama was thoroughly brought into the scene by someone else. When you become a role model or of someone importance, its your job to safeguard these kind of shit if they will hurt your image. This applies to practically anything and anyone, that's just how life is. Did Destiny say he wants to be your role model and teach you how to cooperate in after school specials?
When you have followers, you become role models and your image is shaped behind them. You want to do anything to protect that image or further strengthen it, isn't this fucking obvious?
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On August 30 2012 09:13 tar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:07 Heavenlee wrote:On August 30 2012 09:05 Megiddosc wrote:On August 30 2012 09:01 solidbebe wrote:On August 30 2012 08:49 absalom86 wrote:On August 30 2012 04:47 Medrea wrote:Destiny posted this on reddit. Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends.
I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG.
I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life.
Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends.
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid? Holy shit this guy has a fucking nasty personality. What the hell man. Don't do that if you want to be known as being better than that. I don't think you can sink lower than threatening a person in a tone like that. Destiny could have tried to pull this back somehow and talk his way out of it since it was a personal conversation, but that statement alone is enough to condemn the man, at least for me. Wow that post seriously looks like hes some kind of fucked up loverboy that blackmails girls into doing what he wants. I never really thought too much of him but he truly is a piece of scum. If he is "truly a piece of scum" then why are there pics of Destiny's penis all over the internet and not any of Bluetea nude? I'd say because these guys acting like this were raised by their single mom to lick women's feet. I really find it disgusting when guys lie down and roll over when the "victim" is a girl. People should be treated equally in a fair world, so imagine the situations were reversed. If he posted her nude photos all over the internet as a childish, vindictive little revenge, would that person have called her "a fucked up lovergirl that blackmails boys into doing what she wants" when she threatens to inform his employer and dean? I somehow doubt it. just because A (what blue did) is wrong doesn't make B (destiny sharing nude pics in a chat) right.
I didn't justify it, I said the person calling him a fucked up loverboy that blackmails girls is an idiot. I mentioned earlier it's a stupid thing Destiny did, I just think what the girl did was significantly worse.
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On August 30 2012 09:09 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:07 Heavenlee wrote:On August 30 2012 09:05 Megiddosc wrote:On August 30 2012 09:01 solidbebe wrote:On August 30 2012 08:49 absalom86 wrote:On August 30 2012 04:47 Medrea wrote:Destiny posted this on reddit. Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends.
I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG.
I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life.
Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends.
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid? Holy shit this guy has a fucking nasty personality. What the hell man. Don't do that if you want to be known as being better than that. I don't think you can sink lower than threatening a person in a tone like that. Destiny could have tried to pull this back somehow and talk his way out of it since it was a personal conversation, but that statement alone is enough to condemn the man, at least for me. Wow that post seriously looks like hes some kind of fucked up loverboy that blackmails girls into doing what he wants. I never really thought too much of him but he truly is a piece of scum. If he is "truly a piece of scum" then why are there pics of Destiny's penis all over the internet and not any of Bluetea nude? I'd say because these guys acting like this were raised by their single mom to lick women's feet. I really find it disgusting when guys lie down and roll over when the "victim" is a girl. People should be treated equally in a fair world, so imagine the situations were reversed. If he posted her nude photos all over the internet as a childish, vindictive little revenge, would you call her "a fucked up lovergirl that blackmails boys into doing what she wants" when she threatens to inform his employer and dean? On the other hand, the basis for this entire situation is a bunch of horny twenty-something guys ogling pictures of a girl and rating her. Don't pretend you have any idea how to talk about gender issues when you're just some kid on TL, okay?
That strikes me as a privacy issue, not a gender issue. And as far as being a random poster on TL, you're just as guilty as he is, does that mean neither of you are allowed to discuss this? People can talk about things because we're human beings.
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On August 30 2012 08:51 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 08:50 lazyitachi wrote:
used to watch him a whole lot.. Then I found out that there are MUCH better players and I only watch for his childish antics. cool story about how clueless 90% of people watching streams are bro I used to think maximusblack was the best player EVAR, but then I pulled my head out of my ass.. Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 08:51 Mongoose wrote:
I gotta say I admire ROOT's honesty on the matter. Like not detailing who leaked the chatlog and backstabbed him? Laffo, keep dreaming.
No idea what u blabbering about. My own stream preference <> general viewing preference.
If you want to quote to quote me, please do so in full. Why? Afraid the things that I told will sully ur idol? He is already dirt from all the things he himself created. It's not like he is unfortunate to be in these situations... most of it are of his own doing,
Lol.. destiny fanboys
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On August 30 2012 09:13 silverdevilboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 08:56 Yggdrazil wrote:" I had his email password from when I used to help schedule his lessons. I changed his email password, which enabled me to change his Twitter and Skype passwords. I have a folder full of dick picks and, because I am so nice, tried to choose the most flattering to post." Where does she say she found the pics with the password ? From what i read, i understand she already had those pics... Bluetea isn't the 15 year old. Read the chat, he explicitly says it's a different girl 3 LINES AFTER HE MENTIONS THE 15 YEAR OLD. Jesus, there's needs to be a fucking reading comprehension test to join TL. No legal issues, just an asshole issue. Which one of the two of them is a bigger asshole....is questionable.
Lol, literally as I was posting about people coming in and repeating the 15 year old thing.
It's not a case of being able/unable to read. It's an unwillingness to look through a thread and actually have a look at what's there, instead people have this my unfound opinions are so important and must be expressed mentality that is obnoxious and derails threads.
There's a good debate or whatever to be had here, but the constant cycling of wrong information being struck down, and later repeated again, and struck down again is so fucking irritating.
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On August 30 2012 09:14 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:11 yeastiality wrote:On August 30 2012 09:09 lazyitachi wrote:
It's not like Destiny does to Poland and bam.. he can actually compete in SC2.
It's like saying he went to the mecca of SC2 in Korea and actually got good enough (which he didn't)
GG Destiny... Why is he still featured? Because he is good? Popular? The latter I believe.. Same deal with 90% of people involved in esports. Take it or leave it. On August 30 2012 09:09 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 09:07 Dfgj wrote:On August 30 2012 09:05 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 09:03 Dfgj wrote:On August 30 2012 09:00 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 08:26 Dfgj wrote:On August 30 2012 08:23 Enzymatic wrote:On August 30 2012 08:21 ninjamyst wrote:
sooo Destiny got into trouble because he's a normal guy like everyone else? No, he got into "trouble" because he brought High-School level drama into a sponsored team of grown-ups, and the esports scene. You Destiny fanboys sure are naive and good at playing ignorant. You're going to have to explain how a private conversation is 'bringing drama into a sponsored team'. The person who brought the drama is whoever leaked the conversation and turned it into a public issue. because its not private anymore. derp Did you not read the second half of my post, or any information about the issue? Destiny did not make it public. It was not an issue for the SC2 scene at all. It was made public by someone else. it doesn't matter if it was destiny that made it public or not, but fact that this embarrassment was made public. The whys and hows is no importance to sponsors and teams, only the fact that this resulted in making them look bad. It matters if we're discussing the sentence '[Destiny] brought High-School level drama into a sponsored team of grown-ups', when the drama was thoroughly brought into the scene by someone else. When you become a role model or of someone importance, its your job to safeguard these kind of shit if they will hurt your image. This applies to practically anything and anyone, that's just how life is. Did Destiny say he wants to be your role model and teach you how to cooperate in after school specials? When you have followers, you become role models and your image is shaped behind them. You want to do anything to protect that image or further strengthen it, isn't this fucking obvious?
His followers follow him because of the controversial aspects of his character. By your logic therefore, he should not moderate that to maximise his streaming potential right?
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On August 30 2012 09:12 multiversed wrote:
i'm going to drop a bombshell on all you poor little kids. 6-7 is average. you are below average if you are describing it as huge. also, you are describing dicks on the internet...
While it is not in my interests to act a role in instigating discussions of dicks, 6-7 inches isn't average in the USA (5.1 is).
Actually, 7.1 inches is the average in the biggest average country in the world (Congo).
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Good, I'm glad this happened (although that's with my bias towards Destiny in full force.) And as much as I dislike Catz, he made the proper business decision here and went forward with the team in mind. Best of luck to the dudes on ROOT in the future, hopefully something good happens.
Also, I'm still a bit on the fence as to whether or not I'm a fan of people contacting sponsors. With incidents such as this one and Orb - I think I'm okay with it. The scene doesn't need this shit to happen and I'm glad it's getting resolved, albeit in a harsh way.
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On August 30 2012 09:14 zidaneshead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:10 ReaperCo wrote:
Okej so a pic of his huge dick where released and he talked some shit witch where supposed to be private, i dont really care about that. Am i missing something here? wut?
Avrage dick then i dont even know how big it is
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On August 30 2012 09:16 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:13 silverdevilboy wrote:On August 30 2012 08:56 Yggdrazil wrote:" I had his email password from when I used to help schedule his lessons. I changed his email password, which enabled me to change his Twitter and Skype passwords. I have a folder full of dick picks and, because I am so nice, tried to choose the most flattering to post." Where does she say she found the pics with the password ? From what i read, i understand she already had those pics... Bluetea isn't the 15 year old. Read the chat, he explicitly says it's a different girl 3 LINES AFTER HE MENTIONS THE 15 YEAR OLD. Jesus, there's needs to be a fucking reading comprehension test to join TL. No legal issues, just an asshole issue. Which one of the two of them is a bigger asshole....is questionable. Lol, literally as I was posting about people coming in and repeating the 15 year old thing. It's not a case of being able/unable to read. It's an unwillingness to look through a thread and actually have a look at what's there, instead people have this my unfound opinions are so important and must be expressed mentality that is obnoxious and derails threads. There's a good debate or whatever to be had here, but the constant cycling of wrong information being struck down, and later repeated again, and struck down again is so fucking irritating.
what i find incredible is that people don't even bother reading the OP. just the OP. everything is there: she's not 15. he didn't leak her pictures. picture he discussed with TT1 and Fayth wasn't nude picture.
yet people repeat all of this. over and over.
i think that deserves 2 weeks ban, or at least a warning. TL should never be a place where you don't have to think before you post. (even though i don't understand - why would you want to?)
oh, sigh
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Yeah, really cant follow root anymore. I liked the team because it was made in the grass roots amongst friends, but then they just kind of throw destiny under the bus even though he didnt do anything wrong-- and what he did do, how does it differ from fayth and tt1? I dont see how how being the individual who sends a pic is in anyway more morally objectionable than asking for it. I thought ROOT had some balls, but obviously not. Teams have to grow a back bone and defend their players from the holier than thou mob mentality thats destroying the scene.
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On August 30 2012 09:17 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:12 multiversed wrote:
i'm going to drop a bombshell on all you poor little kids. 6-7 is average. you are below average if you are describing it as huge. also, you are describing dicks on the internet... While it is not in my interests to act a role in instigating discussions of dicks, 6-7 inches isn't average in the USA (5.1 is). Actually, 7.1 inches is the average in the biggest average country in the world (Congo).
i defer to the penis expert. though i will note that 5-7 isn't much of a stretch. teehee.
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