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On August 30 2012 09:23 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:22 StarBrift wrote: Sending pictures of your genitals to an underage girl, call her names to your friends, threatening to ruin her life when she lashes out the only way she knows how. Destiny sure seems like a class act. Is this supposed to be the actions of a grown man? Things like this just makes me want to disassociate myself from pro gaming completely.
There have been so many stories lately of prominent people (of adult age) acting like young teenagers. I'm glad atleast most on the TL crowd is mature enough to see this for what it is. Reddit seems to have a bigger problem doing so. There is no proof out there, or at least from what I have read here that he sent pictures of his junk to an underage girl. The girl involved in this controversy is 20 years old. Perhaps he has done such a thing but I'd like to see proof before we accuse a guy of sending nudes to underage girls. Too much to ask or?
One of the three reddit threads I got that information from said so. Apparently it was wrong. I should have checked up on that more carefully. Edited my post as soon as I found out (about 30 sec after posting). However what he did is still unacceptable in every way. She really shouldn't have hacked his twitter and whatnot. But if you're a grown man with any kind of pride you don't do any of what Destiny has done here. He has proven how mature he is time and time again.
Actually sharing nude pictures of a woman and talking shit about her back is grounds enough to just remove him from a team imo. That is some highschool broseph mentality right there. Trying to shame a girl for her looks.
Do you guys even understand how girls are viewed in public once people start calling them sluts or such? The fact that she had her nude pictures mentions is a bigger social decifit for her than what actual pictures of Destiny's dick sent to 70k people is to him. That's how society works right now. Even in the most progressive of places.
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On August 30 2012 09:28 EnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:17 marttorn wrote:On August 30 2012 09:12 multiversed wrote: i'm going to drop a bombshell on all you poor little kids. 6-7 is average. you are below average if you are describing it as huge. also, you are describing dicks on the internet... While it is not in my interests to act a role in instigating discussions of dicks, 6-7 inches isn't average in the USA (5.1 is). Actually, 7.1 inches is the average in the biggest average country in the world (Congo). Indeed, but also it's worth noting that Destiny is a tiny dude. He's dwarfed by Rachel whenever they do interviews, so it's pretty fair to guess his dick is below average when looking at it, I know mine is marginally above average and his looks similar, although smaller proportionally, and I'm 6'1 190 lbs.
dick size (when hard) has very little or no correlation with height
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On August 30 2012 09:28 Sufinsil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:12 snailz wrote:hey guys did you read this post? it was on page 20 something On August 30 2012 07:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On August 30 2012 06:31 KimJongChill wrote: So basically girl gets pissed off for being called ugly, invades stevens personal privacy, and harms his career/livelihood. She got her feelings hurt, steven gets his life hurt. Don't get me wrong, ROOT was right to "let go" steven, but I can't believe people are trying to whiteknight for this girl who grossly overreacted with what was probably a good idea of the potential consequences. Also can't believe there are people in here who think the convo was "disgusting" or something, do you guys even live in real life? A lot of people are so insecure that they need to publicly post these condescending comments from their high horses, hoping to claim some sort of "moral high ground". Plus there will always be white knights on the internet. The girl overreacted quite a bit over something she was never supposed to have known, private conversations are private for a reason y'know. I hope that if Destiny is able to make a case in court and sue her for leaking said conversations or maybe invading his privacy then he does it. (I'm not very familiar with the US legislation or court system, unfortunately - maybe that's not feasible at all) That said I'm not a fan of Destiny. He has done some stupid shit. Maybe he does need to grow up. But I think all of the people who genuinely get offended by this should grow the fuck up too. Stop being so butthurt over trivial nonsense that does not affect your own life in any shape, way or form at all. Seriously, the pussification of this world and the tendency towards a more politically correct society is downright pathetic. But in fact I don't think it's people who got offended that emailed Destiny's sponsors. At least not this time. I think it's just people who hate him with a passion and want to see his career burn to the ground; people who probably didn't bother to read both sides of the story or try to comprehend what they read in the first place. And it's those people who will eventually ruin eSports because they don't bother checking facts (at least the facts that are available anyway) before sending a feedback message to sponsors. And they're only a vocal minority too, it probably wouldn't be as bad if those of us who are lazy (myself included) messaged sponsors thanking them for the support of this scene that we love so much. /rant You could say the same of the photos of her. Not agreeing with her reaction but he did not have consent to share private photos. Perhaps not, although they weren't even that explicit apparently. To take an alternate scenario lets say you're in a club with your friends, you see some girl you think is attractive/unattractive and you discuss whether you think she's fuckable or not. She overhears and is perhaps upset, but I imo that doesn't give her the right to react in the manner that Bluetea did.
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On August 30 2012 09:30 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:28 EnE wrote:On August 30 2012 09:17 marttorn wrote:On August 30 2012 09:12 multiversed wrote: i'm going to drop a bombshell on all you poor little kids. 6-7 is average. you are below average if you are describing it as huge. also, you are describing dicks on the internet... While it is not in my interests to act a role in instigating discussions of dicks, 6-7 inches isn't average in the USA (5.1 is). Actually, 7.1 inches is the average in the biggest average country in the world (Congo). Indeed, but also it's worth noting that Destiny is a tiny dude. He's dwarfed by Rachel whenever they do interviews, so it's pretty fair to guess his dick is below average when looking at it, I know mine is marginally above average and his looks similar, although smaller proportionally, and I'm 6'1 190 lbs. dick size (when hard) has very little or no correlation with height
No, I'm saying that the only real reference for size is HIS OWN BODY, and so it would look larger on his own body because he's a small guy. Sorry for the ambiguity.
Do you follow?
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the pic steven linked in our chat is this one (when he says the girl on the left is her, aka bluetea)
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On August 30 2012 09:29 StarBrift wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:23 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 30 2012 09:22 StarBrift wrote: Sending pictures of your genitals to an underage girl, call her names to your friends, threatening to ruin her life when she lashes out the only way she knows how. Destiny sure seems like a class act. Is this supposed to be the actions of a grown man? Things like this just makes me want to disassociate myself from pro gaming completely.
There have been so many stories lately of prominent people (of adult age) acting like young teenagers. I'm glad atleast most on the TL crowd is mature enough to see this for what it is. Reddit seems to have a bigger problem doing so. There is no proof out there, or at least from what I have read here that he sent pictures of his junk to an underage girl. The girl involved in this controversy is 20 years old. Perhaps he has done such a thing but I'd like to see proof before we accuse a guy of sending nudes to underage girls. Too much to ask or? One of the three reddit threads I got that information from said so. Apparently it was wrong. I should have checked up on that more carefully. Edited my post as soon as I found out (about 30 sec after posting). However what he did is still unacceptable in every way. She really shouldn't have hacked his twitter and whatnot. But if you're a grown man with any kind of pride you don't do any of what Destiny has done here. He has proven how mature he is time and time again. Actually sharing nude pictures of a woman and talking shit about her back is grounds enough to just remove him from a team imo. That is some highschool broseph mentality right there. Trying to shame a girl for her looks. Do you guys even understand how girls are viewed in public once people start calling them sluts or such? The fact that she had her nude pictures mentions is a bigger social decifit for her than what actual pictures of Destiny's dick sent to 70k people is to him. That's how society works right now. Even in the most progressive of places. Have you ever been around women talking about their ex-partners? It's always 'oh he had a small dick/came too fast or whatever. It's not as if this mentality is male-exclusive.
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Ok, found BluTea's Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/nmwhite0131 (Public info, very easily found, so don't blame me !)
She's not minor, i'm sorry for the first sentence of my post. The second sentence was still true :
there are a lot of legal issues in this story, and from both sides.
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On August 30 2012 09:23 imMUTAble787 wrote: I feel bad for Destiny just as much as I do the girl.
Why would you feel bad for him?
It's not the first, second, third, or even fourth time he has been involved in a PR disaster. Dude practically invites controversy. In fact, he thrives on it. Irreverence is the main reason why he has so many followers. It's certainly not because of his "accomplishments" as a professional gamer.
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On August 30 2012 09:31 EnE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:30 iky43210 wrote:On August 30 2012 09:28 EnE wrote:On August 30 2012 09:17 marttorn wrote:On August 30 2012 09:12 multiversed wrote: i'm going to drop a bombshell on all you poor little kids. 6-7 is average. you are below average if you are describing it as huge. also, you are describing dicks on the internet... While it is not in my interests to act a role in instigating discussions of dicks, 6-7 inches isn't average in the USA (5.1 is). Actually, 7.1 inches is the average in the biggest average country in the world (Congo). Indeed, but also it's worth noting that Destiny is a tiny dude. He's dwarfed by Rachel whenever they do interviews, so it's pretty fair to guess his dick is below average when looking at it, I know mine is marginally above average and his looks similar, although smaller proportionally, and I'm 6'1 190 lbs. dick size (when hard) has very little or no correlation with height No, I'm saying that the only real reference for size is HIS OWN BODY, and so it would look larger on his own body because he's a small guy. Sorry for the ambiguity. Do you follow?
I get you now, but I am not sure if you can accurately guess the size from just looks unless your a doctor or expert in this field. I do know that penis always look larger when viewing from a frontal position
I haven't seen the pic, don't plan to either.
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On August 30 2012 09:04 Yggdrazil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 08:59 PanN wrote:On August 30 2012 08:57 Yggdrazil wrote:On August 30 2012 08:52 Megiddosc wrote:On August 30 2012 08:49 absalom86 wrote:On August 30 2012 04:47 Medrea wrote:Destiny posted this on reddit. Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends. I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG. I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life. Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends. Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid? Holy shit this guy has a fucking nasty personality. What the hell man. Don't do that if you want to be known as being better than that. I don't think you can sink lower than threatening a person in a tone like that. Destiny could have tried to pull this back somehow and talk his way out of it since it was a personal conversation, but that statement alone is enough to condemn the man, at least for me. Would leaking pics of Bluetea nude sink Destiny lower? Cause that would put him even with what Bluetea did. If she's minor... that would be his end :p There is nothing illegal involving a minor here, get that through your extremely thick steel reinforced head. Again, i said "If she's minor". This doesn't mean i'm saying she is, but that if she was, it would be devastating for destiny to do what the suggested (posting her nudes on the web). Unless it isn't a crime in the US to post a minor's nudes on the net ?
He didn't post her nudes on the web....he showed two of the guys on root in a private conversation...>_>
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On August 30 2012 09:32 Yggdrazil wrote: Ok, found BluTea's Facebook.
She's not minor, i'm sorry for the first sentence of my post. The second sentence was still true :
there are a lot of legal issues in this story, and from both sides.
The fact that you had to look up her face book instead of just reading one of the multiple lines talking about how shes in college is just insane to me.
Or what about all the people that were telling you shes NOT a minor?
I'm pulling my hair out right now in madness.
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On August 30 2012 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:the pic steven linked in our chat is this one (when he says the girl on the left is her, aka bluetea) + Show Spoiler +
That is decidedly not nude.
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On August 30 2012 09:34 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:32 Yggdrazil wrote: Ok, found BluTea's Facebook.
She's not minor, i'm sorry for the first sentence of my post. The second sentence was still true :
there are a lot of legal issues in this story, and from both sides. The fact that you had to look up her face book instead of just reading one of the multiple lines talking about how shes in college is just insane to me. Or what about all the people that were telling you shes NOT a minor? I'm pulling my hair out right now in madness. I would but I'm too close to going bald as it is
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On August 30 2012 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:the pic steven linked in our chat is this one (when he says the girl on the left is her, aka bluetea) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sCW8S.jpg)
K yeah she's not that hot, I think you guys blew it a bit out of proportion in the chat though. I wouldn't put that in paper bag status.
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On August 30 2012 09:29 StarBrift wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:23 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 30 2012 09:22 StarBrift wrote: Sending pictures of your genitals to an underage girl, call her names to your friends, threatening to ruin her life when she lashes out the only way she knows how. Destiny sure seems like a class act. Is this supposed to be the actions of a grown man? Things like this just makes me want to disassociate myself from pro gaming completely.
There have been so many stories lately of prominent people (of adult age) acting like young teenagers. I'm glad atleast most on the TL crowd is mature enough to see this for what it is. Reddit seems to have a bigger problem doing so. There is no proof out there, or at least from what I have read here that he sent pictures of his junk to an underage girl. The girl involved in this controversy is 20 years old. Perhaps he has done such a thing but I'd like to see proof before we accuse a guy of sending nudes to underage girls. Too much to ask or? One of the three reddit threads I got that information from said so. Apparently it was wrong. I should have checked up on that more carefully. Edited my post as soon as I found out (about 30 sec after posting). However what he did is still unacceptable in every way. She really shouldn't have hacked his twitter and whatnot. But if you're a grown man with any kind of pride you don't do any of what Destiny has done here. He has proven how mature he is time and time again. Actually sharing nude pictures of a woman and talking shit about her back is grounds enough to just remove him from a team imo. That is some highschool broseph mentality right there. Trying to shame a girl for her looks. Do you guys even understand how girls are viewed in public once people start calling them sluts or such? The fact that she had her nude pictures mentions is a bigger social decifit for her than what actual pictures of Destiny's dick sent to 70k people is to him. That's how society works right now. Even in the most progressive of places.
A) Read the chatlog again, he only implied that her face wasn't that great. His FRIENDS called her the names, not him.
B) You think someone should be fired for insulting one person behind their back in private? You must be some kind of saint, if you've never ever said anything bad about anyone behind their back.
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On August 30 2012 09:33 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:04 Yggdrazil wrote:On August 30 2012 08:59 PanN wrote:On August 30 2012 08:57 Yggdrazil wrote:On August 30 2012 08:52 Megiddosc wrote:On August 30 2012 08:49 absalom86 wrote:On August 30 2012 04:47 Medrea wrote:Destiny posted this on reddit. Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends. I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG. I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life. Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends. Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid? Holy shit this guy has a fucking nasty personality. What the hell man. Don't do that if you want to be known as being better than that. I don't think you can sink lower than threatening a person in a tone like that. Destiny could have tried to pull this back somehow and talk his way out of it since it was a personal conversation, but that statement alone is enough to condemn the man, at least for me. Would leaking pics of Bluetea nude sink Destiny lower? Cause that would put him even with what Bluetea did. If she's minor... that would be his end :p There is nothing illegal involving a minor here, get that through your extremely thick steel reinforced head. Again, i said "If she's minor". This doesn't mean i'm saying she is, but that if she was, it would be devastating for destiny to do what the suggested (posting her nudes on the web). Unless it isn't a crime in the US to post a minor's nudes on the net ? He didn't post her nudes on the web....he showed two of the guys on root in a private conversation...>_>
Again, i simply answered to the guy who asked what would happen to destiny if he leaked the nudes of the girl on the internet ! And at that time i didn't know if she was minor or not, thus the hypothesis.
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On August 30 2012 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:the pic steven linked in our chat is this one (when he says the girl on the left is her, aka bluetea) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sCW8S.jpg)
Why're you showing this? Do you think it's appropiate, especially considering the horrible things you said about her in the chatlogs?
She looks fine, by the way.
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On August 30 2012 09:34 zidaneshead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:the pic steven linked in our chat is this one (when he says the girl on the left is her, aka bluetea) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sCW8S.jpg) K yeah she's not that hot, I think you guys blew it a bit out of proportion in the chat though. I wouldn't put that in paper bag status. brb posting your dick online and calling sponsors for this horrific affront to a woman
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On August 30 2012 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:the pic steven linked in our chat is this one (when he says the girl on the left is her) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sCW8S.jpg)
Thank you TT1 for confirming that she was not even nude in the pic...
This honestly makes me so angry. It doesn't bother me what Destiny did (I've discussed girls in similar ways with friends). It doesn't even necessarily both me what bluetea did. She got pissed, she did something stupid, it happens. What bothers me is that the chatlog got posted in a feminist subreddit, and a bunch of people who don't even follow SC2 emailed sponsors to get Destiny fired. How is that acceptable? Ruin someone's life because he acts like a dude?
Do girls never discuss how attractive guys are or something?
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Still dont NOT change your password -.-
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