EPTthat's what he gets. immature bad ppppppppppppppppppppppppppwned.
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
that's what he gets. immature bad ppppppppppppppppppppppppppwned. User was warned for this post | ||
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Pusekatten
Norway234 Posts
If this was in Norway, she would be charged with "Theft of identity" where you can be changed with fines, or up to three years in prison. And in Sweden frape is considered a form of hacking/cracking (I'm sure it would be the same case for twitter) and you can be charged with daily fines, or up to two years in prison. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
The Destiny haters would settle for nothing less than him losing another team, and larger in the hopes of him leaving starcrarft and gaming. a Pity really. I recognise that one doesn't need to to shit on others to have a "personality" but at the same time, I don't want every single gamer to have the same type of personality. Plainly put, I like Destiny as he is, and I wouldn't change a thing. It's a pity that sponsor pressure cost him his job at a team again. I find him brutally honest, truthful to himself and others, and even loud mouthed. And thats a good thing. I do watch him from time to time and he's good to watch, entertaining (which is his job!), and plays good starcraft. As for this nude photo, dick, etc etc... what a crap shoot really. LADIES: Guys will be guys, and if we have one photo of a nude girl that wants to sleep with us, OF COURSE we are going to show it to our friends. What, you send pictures to a guy you met on the internet, but don't expect 2 or 3 people to see it? GUYS: We all know you have a good sized dodger and you like showing it off. However, for your own safety and peace of mind, don't send a picture of your dodger to people who might be in a position to exploit you. AND make sure you DON't TELL your PASSWORDS to anything. That said - shame on Bluetea for escalating the issue from litterally 2 teammates in a private chat seeing your picture, to flipping it around and showing one's bollocks on the internet, publicly for all to see. I know women think that esclation is fair, but it is not. Showing his johnson to 2 of your girl friend is equal and fair. Not 30k+ people. That said. Bluetea forgot one major thing. When ones actions costing an individual nearly everything - they no longer have anything left to lose. You have nothing left to take. That's when despair and hate kicks in. And Bluetea should have thought of this when taking her actions. If you cost someone their job - expect reprocussions. Which leads me to what Destiny should do next: I think he should just post Bluetea's naked picture across every amateur porn site there is, as well as all the social media sites that can allow hot linking to it. Lastly. If you do not like a players personality or attitude or language - turn it off, or change the channel. You CHOSE to watch the program. Nothing else needs to be done. If you want to protest a player - identify yourself as the accuser. They should be able to respond to you directly. The internet allows for anonymity, and when applied to teenagers with no life experience and very little moral compass, actions become far to severe far too quickly. If you do not agree with the previous paragraph then I encourage you to wield your mighty internet sword and "EVERY SINGLE TIME you see something you do not like - email the producers, the commercials, everyone to voice your displeasure. A TV program? Record down the commercials shown during the break and send emails of your discontent to those companies. Bus driver too slow? }Take down the name of the commercial advert on the side of the city bus, and pop them an email letting them know the driver pissed you off. Don't like a motorsport that takes up a full channel? Take down all those sponsor logo's on the side of all the cars and motorcycles, and email them all. Movie at the theatre not to your expectation? Email the theatre chain, the producers of the movie, and don't forget the commercial sponsors at the start of the film. Don't like cats? You should email all the pet food suppliers and tell them to stop making cat food. Now we see how far it really can go............ | ||
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Deleted User 108965
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
You finally end up in the team that most fits your personality (and tolerates it) and then you go and do something that would force even that team to drop you. Oh dear, oh dear. | ||
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Leth0
856 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:18 Djzapz wrote: To the people who say Destiny is immature, what if actually maturity is actually when you look at what Destiny does and you don't get outraged? It seems to me like the bigger man is the one who's not held back by that kind of uncontrollable emotions. I find most of the drama surrounding this character absurdly funny. It's like every time I hear something about him it's more ridiculous then before. I wont speak for anyone else but the only kind of reaction it gets out of me is a hearty "lol" and a shake of the head. For the people that want to blame some arbitrary group of people they label as "Destiny Haters" you should really wise up. He did this to himself. How many times does a person have to shove their own foot in their mouth before they learn to respect other people on a basic level? All the drama and all the 'problems' that he has had stem from the fact that he has no respect for anyone and holds himself on some kind of pedestal. IDK maybe that's why some people like him, but I can't take people like that seriously no matter what they do. | ||
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Anta
Germany434 Posts
stand behind him this time. these things will definitely not happen again. also destiny should try to sue this girl. sharing pics in private is one thing but steal someone's account and twitter dick-pics to the world is a criminal act. while i can understand her rage, she went much too far. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:24 cutler wrote: just wow...let me guess...you guys enjoying this thread? just reading it on the side while playing poker | ||
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Shantastic
United States435 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:24 Noobity wrote: I watched this live and was thoroughly entertained, however nobody is bringing up that at one point Ganzi goes "I'm Gay!" and goes into some stereotypical and a bit exaggerated flamboyant "dance moves". What I don't understand is how that's not being attacked the same way? We have some consistent attacks on morality as if anyone is truly "right" about what should or shouldn't have happened here, despite there being no set rules or regulations determining this morality. I guess it all boils down to doing what you feel is right when you feel it's right, but there are people who will always be attacked because of what they've done in the past. It sucks, but I think it's just something we're going to have to deal with. I disagree very much with how this situation was handled, and I am a Destiny fan. But I can see where the community is coming from. I just don't know why we can't be consistent. Destiny refers to someone as a gook: is "forced" to leave his team Stephano makes a joke about the holocaust: nothing Rather than pursue legitimate and honest action against Destiny using the tools at her disposal (TL, Reddit, etc) Bluetea retaliates in a far stronger fashion than the initial issue and is applauded for her actions. We're pretty impossible to gauge as a community, I don't understand why anyone would try to interract with us. Not to say we're not worth it at times, but sometimes we've got to be next to impossible to understand. This x1000. compLexity found political correctness important enough when Destiny had to leave, but not when one of its members called Protoss the "down syndrome race" while wearing their tag. [1] The double standards this community holds are insane. | ||
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JDub
United States976 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:39 Grimmyman123 wrote: That said. Bluetea forgot one major thing. When ones actions costing an individual nearly everything - they no longer have anything left to lose. You have nothing left to take. That's when despair and hate kicks in. And Bluetea should have thought of this when taking her actions. If you cost someone their job - expect reprocussions. Which leads me to what Destiny should do next: I think he should just post Bluetea's naked picture across every amateur porn site there is, as well as all the social media sites that can allow hot linking to it. I fail to see how that would help the situation at all. Both parties involved are being mean to each other and both are acting quite immature. Further escalation would just make them both look even stupider... | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:41 Anta wrote: i think ROOT fucked up this time... stand behind him this time. these things will definitely not happen again. On the contrary, they will most definitely happen again. Destiny will continue to say/do controversial stuff and he has enough haters to make the sponsors aware of it. Until e-sports has become a mature sport or its fans are able to NOT grab the pitchfork over trivial matters, a person like Destiny will have a very hard time staying on any team. At this rate I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. | ||
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:43 Shantastic wrote: This x1000. compLexity found political correctness important enough when Destiny had to leave, but not when one of its members called Protoss the "down syndrome race" while wearing their tag. The double standards this community holds are insane. the fact of the matter is that some members are more valuable than others, so they have to do much more to be cut from the team. that's why some people get away with shit and others dont. they have some inherent value that keeps them on the team. some insults are taken more insulting than others as well, such as the down syndrome thing. that will not garner a reaction remotely close to the reaction that someone would have to a player using a racial slur. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:43 JDub wrote: I fail to see how that would help the situation at all. Both parties involved are being mean to each other and both are acting quite immature. Further escalation would just make them both look even stupider... Sorry? do you fail to see that Destiny has done far far less than Bluetea? She deserves punishment in my eyes, and I believe in serving back what is equal and fair. She publicly posted pictures of Destiny, he should return the favor. If she was not prepared for that recourse, she should not have taken the actions she did in the first place. He's already lost his job, his sponsor(s), nearly everything. What does she have to lose? | ||
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Leth0
856 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:47 Grimmyman123 wrote: Sorry? do you fail to see that Destiny has done far far less than Bluetea? She deserves punishment in my eyes, and I believe in serving back what is equal and fair. She publicly posted pictures of Destiny, he should return the favor. If she was not prepared for that recourse, she should not have taken the actions she did in the first place. He's already lost his job, his sponsor(s), nearly everything. What does she have to lose? Plenty of porn on the internet man, no need to come here and let everyone else see how desperate and sad you are. What kind of complex do you have that makes you think you are some kind of "judge" in this drama? That you should decide who is guilty of what and what the punishment should be? | ||
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Gben592
United Kingdom281 Posts
On August 31 2012 00:40 Tyree wrote: Contacting the sponsors is absolutely fine in this case This community, as well as the one on reddit or anywhere is else is not responsible for these players and the stupid shit some of them do, whether its racism, sexism, bigotry, general douchey behavior, homophobia, pedophilia or whatever else you can come up with. Sponsors dont not wish to be associated with such individuals for obvious reasons, calling them out on it and putting a spotlight is the only right thing to do. The community is not here to cover up for your inability like a professional But thats the point, he hasn't done anything actually un-professional.. literally nothing he has done in this whole incident ACTUALLY affects the community here. Sure, some stuff happened in his personal life, but that had nothing to do with his job (a professional doesn't have to be professional outside his job). You could point out the various rude things (etc) he's said along the line... but that sorta thing is part of WHY he is popular... essentially its part of his job (Because if you stream and everyone watches you for the snidy remarks and rude comments etc... then isn't doing that being professional?). It seems to me that you personally don't like his stream, so you want him gone. So no, no un-professionality here. Ergo, no reason to (in a rather pathetic manner) contact the sponsors. | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:47 Grimmyman123 wrote: Sorry? do you fail to see that Destiny has done far far less than Bluetea? She deserves punishment in my eyes, and I believe in serving back what is equal and fair. She publicly posted pictures of Destiny, he should return the favor. If she was not prepared for that recourse, she should not have taken the actions she did in the first place. He's already lost his job, his sponsor(s), nearly everything. What does she have to lose? Destiny lost something? i think his stream will get more clicks than before. | ||
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Shantastic
United States435 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:47 FrankWalls wrote: the fact of the matter is that some members are more valuable than others, so they have to do much more to be cut from the team. that's why some people get away with shit and others dont. they have some inherent value that keeps them on the team. some insults are taken more insulting than others as well, such as the down syndrome thing. that will not garner a reaction remotely close to the reaction that someone would have to a player using a racial slur. My argument isn't that it does or doesn't happen; my argument is that it's fucking stupid, and we should strive to be better than that. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:30 Sokrates wrote: Yeah right, let us all turn professional players into colourless figures that are well mannered and type GG every time. They shouldnt talk about private stuff, only should talk about the game. I guess NOBODY is happy with that. People want drama and want to know more about the players than just about their results. I like people with personality much more than shadeless people who appear as robots. I like people as stephano (even though he is a arrogant dick in laddergames sometimes), MC, marineking, destiny, and idra. You guys dont get that consequences this kind of stuff has. If people are pitchforking the sponsors because of a misbehavior of a player, players will stop showing any personality at all. They will appear as robots because they are afraid of punishment. I like emotions in sports and i like emotions in esports. I like it when idra doesnt GG if he doesnt feel like it. Some people hate or love him for doing that. And people also want the players to talk their mind and not just meaningless stuff that doesnt offend anyone. If you keep msging the sponsors, you will take away a big part of what makes esports interessting. You know what the key difference between players like MC, marineking, Idra, Stephano and Destiny is? MC, marineking, idra and Stephano ARE ACTUALLY GOOD AT STARCRAFT. They're professional PLAYERS. They have results to prove it. Destiny is not the 'Dennis Rodman' or 'Ron Artest' of Starcraft 2. He's more like a fan with season tickets that bitches and whines on the sidelines. Or a beer league baller that's a big basketball fan that can do one dunk. If I were to be really, really charitable, he would be Bill Simmons without the talent or writing ability. Destiny is more of a fun, expendable personality than an actual player. He makes money from interacting and trolling the community, not from actually playing it well. If you want to compare the value of 'personalities' of players like Destiny, compare him to Combatex. | ||
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Anta
Germany434 Posts
On August 31 2012 02:46 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: On the contrary, they will most definitely happen again. Destiny will continue to say/do controversial stuff and he has enough haters to make the sponsors aware of it. Until e-sports has become a mature sport or its fans are able to NOT grab the pitchfork over trivial matters, a person like Destiny will have a very hard time staying on any team. At this rate I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. yeah is know and loved/hated for his controversial stuff... that's one reason why he is popular. i agree that sponsors have to deal with many witch hunters if they support him. but they should show a backbone. this is how they should handle it --> http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg i will support cloudninelabs from this day. huge respect for this! | ||
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