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On August 27 2012 17:56 6NR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 17:54 MCXD wrote:On August 27 2012 17:52 MrCon wrote:I don't understand the "KEspa send 90 players" Why the hell Kespa would send anyone, just let those who can play, play. Kespa sending players sounds like the players can be chosen with arbitrary criteria. edit : good news anyway  Yeah this is what I just can't get. Why does KeSPA have to send "0", "90" or any fixed amount of players. Just send the ones who want to compete. How hard a concept is that for them to grasp? That's why I'm not really satisfied. My suspicion is that, sending this many players improves their chances, and would overwhelm GOM, both in terms of the competition and with organizing. Speculation.
GOM isn't ESF. They'd be overwhelming the ESF players, not GOM, who is only a tournament organizer, like OGN.
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On August 27 2012 17:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 17:56 Severedevil wrote:On August 27 2012 17:53 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 17:51 coloursheep wrote:On August 27 2012 17:32 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 17:28 coloursheep wrote:On August 27 2012 17:21 Frankon wrote:Now if Kespa doesn't get 21 players into the Code A through the qualifiers it would be a upset for them.... On August 27 2012 16:59 coloursheep wrote:
I did not say they took their players out, I said they refused to let their players compete which is exactly what they did.
Read again what you wrote.... Took out means that they were already in it in the first place. So ESF, not GOM which you are blaming, is not allowed to have their players not compete in OSL but KESPA can have their players not compete in GSL, how is that not the definition of hypocritical? I said KESPA can have their players not complete, yes the first time I misstated, but i rephrased it as you can see above and you restated that I said took their players out which as you can see in the post I did not. esf would have hurt ogn(maybe cancel event, FIRST SC2 OSL!!) more than kespa hurting gomtv(disappointing hyped fans). osl was already set. gsl4 didnt even start. This was started by KESPA not competing in GSL4, everything that followed was a result of this decision and therefore the blame belongs to KESPA. ...and who is disputing that? no one from what i can see. but to say what esf did is on par with what kespa did...not even close. I dispute it. There was no conflict until ESF threw a fit and held the OSL for ransom. Well then, you are either an idiot or being deliberately obtuse for whatever reason. There needs to be a 'Dont fuck me, I wont fuck you'-policy established as soon as possible - KeSPA not letting their players play GSL4 was, very clearly, a dick move.
How goes retirement? I like your contribution here 
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IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already)
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On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already)
Lets hope it never comes to that then.
If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc.
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On August 27 2012 18:04 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 17:56 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 17:54 MCXD wrote:On August 27 2012 17:52 MrCon wrote:I don't understand the "KEspa send 90 players" Why the hell Kespa would send anyone, just let those who can play, play. Kespa sending players sounds like the players can be chosen with arbitrary criteria. edit : good news anyway Yeah this is what I just can't get. Why does KeSPA have to send "0", "90" or any fixed amount of players. Just send the ones who want to compete. How hard a concept is that for them to grasp? That's why I'm not really satisfied. My suspicion is that, sending this many players improves their chances, and would overwhelm GOM, both in terms of the competition and with organizing. Speculation. GOM isn't ESF. They'd be overwhelming the ESF players, not GOM, who is only a tournament organizer, like OGN.
Minor mistype in the light of all the writings sir, no need to be up and antsy about it :p
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i do wonder what will happen when next season's gsl starts and few kespa players are seeded in code a/s.
then those players will have to play osl, pl, gsl plus other tournaments like wcs, wcg and perhaps mlg. repeat of gom/mbc/ogn?
i really hope they take care of scheduling conflicts with good communications.
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On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc.
BUT,
IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE.
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On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:04 goiflin wrote:On August 27 2012 17:56 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 17:54 MCXD wrote:On August 27 2012 17:52 MrCon wrote:I don't understand the "KEspa send 90 players" Why the hell Kespa would send anyone, just let those who can play, play. Kespa sending players sounds like the players can be chosen with arbitrary criteria. edit : good news anyway Yeah this is what I just can't get. Why does KeSPA have to send "0", "90" or any fixed amount of players. Just send the ones who want to compete. How hard a concept is that for them to grasp? That's why I'm not really satisfied. My suspicion is that, sending this many players improves their chances, and would overwhelm GOM, both in terms of the competition and with organizing. Speculation. GOM isn't ESF. They'd be overwhelming the ESF players, not GOM, who is only a tournament organizer, like OGN. Minor mistype in the light of all the writings sir, no need to be up and antsy about it :p
I'm not antsy about it, just correcting your mistake, that's all!
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On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc.
Picture this: The KeSPA pros dominate the korean scene and force all of the current ESF pros to move out of korea, where they consequently completely dominate the foreign tourneys. This forces the foreigners to korea to train, where their different metagame and sheer numbers shocks and overwhelms the KeSPA pros, creating a viscous cycle.
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On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE.
then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf.
total korean domination once again...muhahhaha
DETUKOURJOB!
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On August 27 2012 18:09 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE. then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf. total korean domination once again...muhahhaha
I just hope GOM doesn't go anywhere. I mean its because of them that SC2 is where it is today in Korea. Around the world? GOM deserves to be the main company for SC2, not Kespa. Even though this is just a dream, but, I would hope Blizzard would fight for GOM if it came down to it.
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On August 27 2012 18:09 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE. then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf. total korean domination once again...muhahhaha
(theoretical and playful assumption):
And what stops Kespa from dominating international SC2 when they are already the best.
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On August 27 2012 18:11 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:09 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE. then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf. total korean domination once again...muhahhaha I just hope GOM doesn't go anywhere. I mean its because of them that SC2 is where it is today in Korea. Around the world? GOM deserves to be the main company for SC2, not Kespa. Even though this is just a dream, but, I would hope Blizzard would fight for GOM if it came down to it.
i think gom will do fine, i was talking about teams...maybe gomtv will join kespa XD
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Let's make a bet on this.
I call
OGN > GOM!
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Wow. I'm very surprised Kespa caved. I wonder how hard they were pressured by sponsors & Blizzard. Even so, I'm surprised they budged at all after the initial concession. Good news for everyone.
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On August 27 2012 17:58 monkybone wrote:
What about the article ciriticising OGN for forcing KesPa players to boycott GSL?
Waxangel said it was deleted few minutes after being published, anyone know anything about this?
What really? That sounds interesting. :D
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On August 27 2012 18:12 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:11 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:09 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE. then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf. total korean domination once again...muhahhaha I just hope GOM doesn't go anywhere. I mean its because of them that SC2 is where it is today in Korea. Around the world? GOM deserves to be the main company for SC2, not Kespa. Even though this is just a dream, but, I would hope Blizzard would fight for GOM if it came down to it. i'm think gom will do fine, i was talking about teams...maybe gomtv will join kespa XD
Hell no, if anything, Kespa should join GOM. I'm sure majority of people do NOT want a repeat of BW with Kespa.
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On August 27 2012 18:11 6NR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:09 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE. then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf. total korean domination once again...muhahhaha (theoretical and playful assumption): And what stops Kespa from dominating international SC2 when they are already the best.
too much to do in sc2 scene would be my guess(ogn+), like the reason for not entering gsl 4.
On August 27 2012 18:13 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 18:12 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 18:11 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:09 jinorazi wrote:On August 27 2012 18:05 6NR wrote:On August 27 2012 18:04 Disengaged wrote:On August 27 2012 18:03 6NR wrote:
IMAGINE:
GSL Up and Downs, Code As, and Code S tournaments populated by 95-100% Kespa players.
That would be sweet revenge! lol
(If they prove to be in that skill level already) Lets hope it never comes to that then. If Kespa becomes the main company in SC2 over there like they did in BW. Then I would have to stop watching SC2 korean tournaments and just stick to the foreign tournaments like MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc. BUT, IT. IS. VERY. POSSIBLE. then maybe esf players will focus on foreign market...sc2 korea scene dominated by kespa, foreign sc2 scene dominated by esf. total korean domination once again...muhahhaha I just hope GOM doesn't go anywhere. I mean its because of them that SC2 is where it is today in Korea. Around the world? GOM deserves to be the main company for SC2, not Kespa. Even though this is just a dream, but, I would hope Blizzard would fight for GOM if it came down to it. i'm think gom will do fine, i was talking about teams...maybe gomtv will join kespa XD Hell no, if anything, Kespa should join GOM. I'm sure majority of people do NOT want a repeat of BW with Kespa.
only joke, i highly doubt gomtv would join kespa because of their history. but just saying, gomtv alongside ogn and split the korean market with closer ties with kespa teams.
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United Kingdom38149 Posts
Well done ESF, you did well!
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EPT
