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United States6168 Posts
On August 26 2012 19:48 Michaels wrote:
ESF are the bad guys here, you are blind and biased if you dont see it. You dont take a part in a tournament and pull out at the last minute to blackmail someone. They did it to NASL and now they are doing it to OGN. If they did it twice they will do it for the third time the question is whos their next target? They are disgusting amateurs I just can believe how anyone nonbiased can be on their side.
Because the historical facts indicate that KeSPA is not acting in good faith. This is mostly a labor dispute, and the only action available to the labor (players) is to not to play. Because the players (ESF and, I presume, KeSPA's players) would not do something as horrible as deliberately playing bad games. (Equivalent to "work slowdown".) Instead, the only ethical action for them to take to uphold their stance is to not play the games. (Aka, strike.) Any other action betrays their stated position or their core ethical values (if you play, you play your best game).
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The funny thing is that the ESF players could do the exact same thing (The too busy and don't have time excuse) and their argument would probably be more legitimate in the case of people like MC.
The reason just makes no sense, especially since the qualifiers for both tournaments don't involve ANY specific preparation of any counterbuilds.
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On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me.
Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On August 26 2012 20:09 Sandermatt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 26 2012 20:06 monkybone wrote:On August 26 2012 20:05 Thinasy wrote:On August 26 2012 20:04 monkybone wrote:On August 26 2012 20:01 Thinasy wrote:On August 26 2012 19:55 monkybone wrote:On August 26 2012 19:54 Sethronu wrote:On August 26 2012 19:52 skeldark wrote:On August 26 2012 19:48 Michaels wrote:
ESF are the bad guys here, you are blind and biased if you dont see it. You dont take a part in a tournament and pull out at the last minute to blackmail someone. They did it to NASL and now they are doing it to OGN. If they did it twice they will do it for the third time the question is whos their next target? They are disgusting amateurs I just can believe how anyone nonbiased can be on their side. First: sure we are biased! That is not always something bad. Second: I understand that you think the move is bad. An you are right. Without context and looking at the history, it looks bad. But we wait for 10 years now, that someone stand up against kespa politic: "WE, not our players deicide where they play". To pull out in middle of a tournament is bad, for kespa and this makes it good for me! Too bad this 'horrible' KeSPA politic has created the most spectacular Starcraft games we have ever seen, and the most impressive players came out of it. But yes, if it's bad for KeSPA then it's good for viewers. Fuck logic. Seriously no, OGN hasn't catered to the foreign audience one bit, while Gom has practically been a gift from heaven at this. They didnt shutdown the restreams during the BW-era, yeah sure they didnt make a stream for themselfs for the foreign watchers, but can you blame em? there just wasnt enough people to make it profitable i'd guess. Also they are new to the SC2 scene so can you atleast give em some time to get everything setup before you say stuff like that. What was OGN doing for the past two years while Gom was doing an excellent job at this? They need time to setup? What absolute bullshit. Except OGN was in the BW scene, not the SC2 scene? So what? BW is somehow an excuse? We're talking about their willingness to cater to a foreign audience. the last 2 years they did not have broadcasting rights for SC2, and technicall not even for BW, that why there was the damn lawsuit between Blizzard and OGN/MBC And seeing all the mess that starts as soon as they made the switch it was probably good that they had no broadcast rights.
how is OGN to blame for any of this again?
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alright so here is my perspective
The state of things:
-Esports is bigger than ever with growth potential.
-International tournaments/leagues exist with decent price pools.
-SC2 is battling other games for esports dominance.
-SC2 teams, while growing with sponsors, still lack funds outside minimum wage support.
-SC2 isn't where it needs to be as a game in supporting the highest level of competition.
-SC2 has to now prove itself as the true successor to BW and the dominant game of esports.
therefore:
-Blizzard needs to assign more resources supporting competitive play.
-Need more Blizzard/Pro interaction.
-Need more Blizzard/Community interaction.
-Increased attention to games spectacle factor.
therefore:
-Blizzard needs to recognize investment opportunity.
therefore:
-Lots of money and corporate names need to be slinging around teams and competitions. (LOTS!)
therefore:
-kespa has to kick serious ass coming out the gate to secure proper succession from BW
therefore:
-I support kespa.
AND
-Kespa BW monopoly was established in isolated environment.
-Kespa BW monopoly happened when streaming wasn't mainstream tech.
-SC2 has a solid foundation of international teams/leagues/tournaments/players
-Esports viewership is more dynamic with streaming, allowing successful independent ventures.
-Foreigners root for/watch foreigners in korean tournaments.
-Korean stars international abroad attract viewers.
therefore:
-Kespa will not clean sweep the scene.
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On August 26 2012 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 19:40 ImNightmare wrote:
???? Still no annoucement? Fuck this is good. Kespa is really thinking hard on its next move. Shall we macro up? Or do we counter attack its sunday. :/
I dont think the day has anything to do with it. Asian businesses usually operate even on weekends, and with something this big, it wont be surprising if an announcement is made today.
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On August 26 2012 20:10 S_SienZ wrote:
The funny thing is that the ESF players could do the exact same thing (The too busy and don't have time excuse) and their argument would probably be more legitimate in the case of people like MC.
The reason just makes no sense, especially since the qualifiers for both tournaments don't involve ANY specific preparation of any counterbuilds.
That's a perfectly fine excuse. Throw that before the qualifiers and you're fine..
Don't sign up for a tournament then pull out.
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On August 26 2012 20:10 BgSBendeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me. Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet.
And that would make them want to turn down seeds into code S and code A why?
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On August 26 2012 20:10 BgSBendeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me. Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet.
And yet they had no problem playing WCS and will play OSL which will be sooner than the GSL.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On August 26 2012 20:10 monkybone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 26 2012 20:06 monkybone wrote:On August 26 2012 20:05 Thinasy wrote:On August 26 2012 20:04 monkybone wrote:On August 26 2012 20:01 Thinasy wrote:On August 26 2012 19:55 monkybone wrote:On August 26 2012 19:54 Sethronu wrote:On August 26 2012 19:52 skeldark wrote:On August 26 2012 19:48 Michaels wrote:
ESF are the bad guys here, you are blind and biased if you dont see it. You dont take a part in a tournament and pull out at the last minute to blackmail someone. They did it to NASL and now they are doing it to OGN. If they did it twice they will do it for the third time the question is whos their next target? They are disgusting amateurs I just can believe how anyone nonbiased can be on their side. First: sure we are biased! That is not always something bad. Second: I understand that you think the move is bad. An you are right. Without context and looking at the history, it looks bad. But we wait for 10 years now, that someone stand up against kespa politic: "WE, not our players deicide where they play". To pull out in middle of a tournament is bad, for kespa and this makes it good for me! Too bad this 'horrible' KeSPA politic has created the most spectacular Starcraft games we have ever seen, and the most impressive players came out of it. But yes, if it's bad for KeSPA then it's good for viewers. Fuck logic. Seriously no, OGN hasn't catered to the foreign audience one bit, while Gom has practically been a gift from heaven at this. They didnt shutdown the restreams during the BW-era, yeah sure they didnt make a stream for themselfs for the foreign watchers, but can you blame em? there just wasnt enough people to make it profitable i'd guess. Also they are new to the SC2 scene so can you atleast give em some time to get everything setup before you say stuff like that. What was OGN doing for the past two years while Gom was doing an excellent job at this? They need time to setup? What absolute bullshit. Except OGN was in the BW scene, not the SC2 scene? So what? BW is somehow an excuse? We're talking about their willingness to cater to a foreign audience. the last 2 years they did not have broadcasting rights for SC2, and technicall not even for BW, that why there was the damn lawsuit between Blizzard and OGN/MBC So you're calling the reason for the lawsuit an excuse? Really?
no, merely pointing out what was going on the last 2 years.
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I hope OGN has contracts with players so they can sue every single one of them for dmg costs
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On August 26 2012 20:10 BgSBendeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me. Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet.
I dont think ESF is asking for every player in Kespa to play in the qualifiers. Sure if you are the player that is surpose to only focus on scbw then thats fine you dont have to go to qualifiers. But the players that are focusing on SC2 strictly now can still go through the qualifiers. As it stands now with Kespa's decision not even the team dishwasher is allow to partake in qualifiers
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United Kingdom450 Posts
On August 26 2012 20:12 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:10 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me. Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet. And yet they had no problem playing WCS and will play OSL which will be sooner than the GSL.
They signed up for WCS and OSL MONTHS in advance. They prepare for the same maps as are in PL for these. OSL is the premier league that they can't ignore due to their history, while WCS is a direct cooperation with Blizzard.
Seriously, you people need to stop talking out of your butts. If you don't like KeSPA for whatever reason, or lack of thereof - that's fine, but stop making up dumb shit to justify the politics of eSF. They're not angels, and they sure as hell aren't fighting for the 'good of esports' or 'rights of the players' here.
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On August 26 2012 19:57 boxman22 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 19:52 disciple wrote:On August 26 2012 19:46 achan1058 wrote:On August 26 2012 19:45 chisuri wrote:On August 26 2012 19:42 achan1058 wrote:On August 26 2012 19:41 Bippzy wrote:
Interesting how public opinion slowly shifts, its as if everyone forgot about before eSF made the current move. Everyone was like "good, but they stilll shouldn't play till season 4 gsl has kespa players". They make this decision combined with ogns nice little PR announcement, and now gom is an asshole.
I would still applaud them for having the balls to do it. In this case, the ends justify the means, regardless of eSF backing out of a started tournament whereas osl never was in. Actually, nothing shifted. There's just a small vocal minority of people, probably BW fans, who have been making many comments. And you counter them with impeccable logic and reason? And what does being BW fans have anything to do with this? If they say the right things, they are still the correct side in this argument. But you have to cop out for the sake of discussion of course. I wasn't countering anything with that comment. It's just an observation. Most pro-KeSPA posts have a T1 tag on them. especially after taking the time to read all the information on the matter. You mean like the most bullshit excuse in history, i.e. that we don't have time for the GSL qualifiers and GSL? Coincidentally the exact same excuse they gave the prior GSL season?
Why is the excuse so important for you? It doesn't matter one bit when KeSPA did not intend to play in the GSL4 at all. The main issue imho is that this relationship obviously lacked communication and the current status quo doesn't seem to me as being a discussed part of this partnership. KeSPA are true to their old ways, which is indeed bad for esports and should change, but ESF has the means to discipline KeSPA before it actually gets to where we are right now.
In the end OGN gets fucked up big time cause their flagship tournament is jeopardized a couple of days before it starts. A tournament with set sponsorship and years of long history. Speaking of long term how do you think ESF pulling out now would affect negotiations for future OSL sponsorship.
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On August 26 2012 20:11 tronix wrote:
*snip*
I am sure that's how Blizzard originally saw things too, that's why they urged GOM to cut the agreement early.
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On August 26 2012 20:04 monkybone wrote:
What was OGN doing for the past two years while Gom was doing an excellent job at this? They need time to setup? What absolute bullshit. Yeah, you can blame them. And it's no excuse that there's no profit, it's your job to make it be a profit, like gom did. OGN has not showed any interest in the foreign community at all.
Excuse-me ? Excellent job ? You mean, free stream in low quality, pay-to-view stream in high quality, and pay-to-view vods ???
In the other hand, OGN propose free stream, free vods, and no restriction.
Maybe you like spending to feel being "cattered" lol, I prefer that they leave my money alone :D
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On August 26 2012 20:10 BgSBendeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me. Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet.
I doubt they are still playing BW, maybe a game from time to time. As BW will soon be no longer played BW skills will not be requested very soon. Flash stated already at the beginning of PL that he is focusing on SC2 (and he was still in the OSL).
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On August 26 2012 20:10 BgSBendeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:07 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. GSL qualifiers aren't for another 10 days, during which KeSPA's main complaint was that their players schedules are just too busy. Are they really too busy to play in qualifiers? You tell me. Yes because half of them are practising BW while the other half SC2. If they were all to play in GSL qualifiers, how fair would that be.. Those who were practising BW would be at a disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that kespa teams haven't made a full transition to sc2 yet.
None of the players on that list are practicing BW anymore. All but 4 have absolutely nothing to do for the next few months. Literally, they don't have any games to practice for. If Flash gets knocked out the OSL then the entire KT Rolster team has absolutely nothing on their schedule for the next few months. It doesn't matter if most won't make it, they certainly don't have anything on their schedules that conflict with the GSL. They aren't too busy, KeSPA's original reasoning is crap. If it was the players don't feel like they'd be able to compete properly, that'd be a legitimate reason, but it wasn't. They're "too busy" doing absolutely nothing.
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On August 26 2012 20:07 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 20:04 boxman22 wrote:On August 26 2012 20:03 BgSBendeR wrote:On August 26 2012 19:58 xBillehx wrote:On August 26 2012 18:26 Teddyman wrote:I don't think posters in this thread realize what a busy schedule the KeSPA teams have. To clarify, I have compiled the leagues each player in the 3 sponsored teams that were eliminated from PL today take part in. + Show Spoiler +
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Hitman: -
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I think this is an excellent post that highlights just how busy the KeSPA players are. Terrible example.. Woongjin got eliminated today,, they were practising for their pro league games before that.. KT still had proleague to practice for today even if there was no chance of making play offs., Same goes for STX. Therefore your argument is invalid. Hahah oh no 7 people had to prepare for 1 game each week. Professionals you heard of them?
Yeah, I'm sure that Soulkey prepared his game vs Flash for a whole week... Got to practice that speedling all-in.
I don't even know how can someone buy that shit about the schedule.
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