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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#961
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.

that was fast!!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
August 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#962
All I know is that whatever Kespa did for the past 10 years, it worked and we had a wonderful decade of joy, tears and sweat.

Kespa is made of sponsors, sponsors who helped Starcraft become what it is today, sponsors who over the years pour money into an investment that never returns any profit(directly). If you love Starcraft as an e-sport, then the last thing you want is Kespa(aka sponsors) to disappear.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
August 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#963
LOL at the "For the sake of ESPORTS" comments, so cheesy. Not that eSports exists anyway.
This is very interesting news, can't wait to see what happens next.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
August 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#964
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.


Gives them enough time to let OSL finish and "change their mind" afterwards.
It ain't over till it's over
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 12:52 GMT
#965
i think its time for a poll guys......

Poll: KESPA VS ESF, FLASH VS NESTEA, WHO WILL WIN?!!!

foreigners (16)
 
50%

Esports federation (9)
 
28%

kespa (7)
 
22%

32 total votes

Your vote: KESPA VS ESF, FLASH VS NESTEA, WHO WILL WIN?!!!

(Vote): kespa
(Vote): Esports federation
(Vote): foreigners

prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
August 24 2012 12:52 GMT
#966
On August 24 2012 21:47 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:37 floor exercise wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:28 Cubu wrote:
but wait, isnt kespa and osl 2 different entities? so that would mean esf screwed over someone innocent?

ESF screwed over any of their players who wanted to participate in the OSL. Right now they're no better than Kespa and being used as pawns. I guess it's time to boycott all korean sc2?


Do you know how to read? The ESF contacted EVERY SINGLE PLAYER in the OSL and asked them if they were okay with this. They unanimously supported the decision. Notice how the statement was made by Nestea as well.

Do you really think Kespa went through the same process? ESF is a PLAYERS association, Kespa is NOT.


You think the players would willingly turn down the chance to compete in a televised individual league, something they've probably been wanting since they became pros?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 12:54:43
August 24 2012 12:52 GMT
#967
Honestly this is probably the best thing that has been done yet. People have been saying for years that the players need to take a stand, work together, etc. - well, now they're doing it, on an issue that basically has only one reasonable resolution: they win.

Since KeSPA saw sense, we have a solid precedent for players as a bargaining power.

If KeSPA didn't do the sensible thing, they were that much closer to becoming irrelevant, government backing or no government backing.

Short of star players like Flash and Bisu who make the big bucks - and maybe not even them - who's going to continue playing for or renew contracts with a team that's working for an agency that has no regard for what players and fans want? Especially when you consider that the GOM-registered teams will gladly pick up these guys, at least the top players. If top-performing KeSPA SC2 players - say, RorO and herO[jOin], relative nobodies in BW - start defecting to IM, MVP, NSHS, etc., KeSPA basically dies.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 12:53:09
August 24 2012 12:52 GMT
#968
For people that doesn't read the threads:

ITS SETTLED, KESPA AGREES ON THEIR TEAMS COMING TO GOM:


On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.



"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#969
On August 24 2012 21:51 forumtext wrote:
All I know is that whatever Kespa did for the past 10 years, it worked and we had a wonderful decade of joy, tears and sweat.

Kespa is made of sponsors, sponsors who helped Starcraft become what it is today, sponsors who over the years pour money into an investment that never returns any profit(directly). If you love Starcraft as an e-sport, then the last thing you want is Kespa(aka sponsors) to disappear.


They've done good, but they're also incrediably terrible when it comes to alot of things, they don't need to disappear, they need to change.
seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#970
On August 24 2012 21:51 forumtext wrote:
All I know is that whatever Kespa did for the past 10 years, it worked and we had a wonderful decade of joy, tears and sweat.

Kespa is made of sponsors, sponsors who helped Starcraft become what it is today, sponsors who over the years pour money into an investment that never returns any profit(directly). If you love Starcraft as an e-sport, then the last thing you want is Kespa(aka sponsors) to disappear.

Nobody wants them to disappear. We want them to stop dicking around.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#971
On August 24 2012 21:52 BrosephBrostar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:47 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:37 floor exercise wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:28 Cubu wrote:
but wait, isnt kespa and osl 2 different entities? so that would mean esf screwed over someone innocent?

ESF screwed over any of their players who wanted to participate in the OSL. Right now they're no better than Kespa and being used as pawns. I guess it's time to boycott all korean sc2?


Do you know how to read? The ESF contacted EVERY SINGLE PLAYER in the OSL and asked them if they were okay with this. They unanimously supported the decision. Notice how the statement was made by Nestea as well.

Do you really think Kespa went through the same process? ESF is a PLAYERS association, Kespa is NOT.


You think the players would willingly turn down the chance to compete in a televised individual league, something they've probably been wanting since they became pros?


Yes, because that is EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
n.Die_Jaedong
ProGear
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden35 Posts
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#972
I wish Kespa would honor the memory of Woo Jeong Ho by letting their players join GSL.
Of course I can't confirm this but I think Woo Jeong Ho would have wanted esports to grow both in Korea and the international scene.

The decision of Kespa is just an indignity to the memory of Woo Jeong Ho.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#973
On August 24 2012 21:52 Integra wrote:
For people that doesn't read the threads:

ITS SETTLED, KESPA AGREES ON THEIR TEAMS COMING TO GOM:


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.





YES, it worked finally, gj gom, thank you kespa
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#974
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.


Translation?
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 12:57:24
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#975
On August 24 2012 21:51 Opera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.


Gives them enough time to let OSL finish and "change their mind" afterwards.


I doubt it. KeSPA probably learned their lesson. Besides it's a win win. What they want to do is steal the competition from foreign tournaments and team up with GOM in inventing a new age of the "Korean wave" (also known as Koreans are stealing all our jobs). It'd be a win-win for them.
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JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 12:55:25
August 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#976
And next season, Kespa will say there are planning issues all over again ?
I bet this wont resolve the issue. GOM won't take the risk to get fucked again.
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
August 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#977
I don't know, I think I might side with Kespa on this one. I think they want to develop SC2 into a league sport in Korea with the structure of a real sports team so they can control and market it better.
MeLo
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia192 Posts
August 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#978
Only season 5?

If it were me, I wouldn't budge unless they participate in 4 as well.
shArklight
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Singapore160 Posts
August 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#979
On August 24 2012 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:52 Integra wrote:
For people that doesn't read the threads:

ITS SETTLED, KESPA AGREES ON THEIR TEAMS COMING TO GOM:


On August 24 2012 21:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Well it worked: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=65681

They're participating in GSL Season 5.





YES, it worked finally, gj gom, thank you kespa



Something tells me that this is only the beginning...
Happiness is never grand.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#980
I'm putting the pitchfork down, but keeping it close by.. just in case..
n.Die_Jaedong
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