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eSports federation players defer OSL participation - Page 19

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50978 Posts
August 24 2012 09:47 GMT
#361
OGN gets fucked over, the OSL gets fucked over, the players get fucked over, the sponsor gets fucked over and most importantly we the spectators get fucked over.

regardless of what kespa did, this is worse.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 24 2012 09:47 GMT
#362
On August 24 2012 18:45 Dakure wrote:
Instead of being the bigger man, GOM is pulling a tantrum. Completely unprofessional. I am no longer purchasing any of their subscriptions. I hope you're happy GOM.


Again, this has nothing to do with GOM. This was the ESF's decision. v_v
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 24 2012 09:47 GMT
#363
On August 24 2012 18:44 EnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:41 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:40 EnE wrote:
For fuck sake, I DONT WANT TO SEE FLASH GET OWNED BY A RANDOM CODE B PLAYER! LET THEM FUCKING PRACTICE FIRST!

They are good enough to not get owned by random code B's. If the qualifiers were held, due to their big numbers I suspect around half would be Kespa players getting through.



Why...based on what? I've never seen proof that Kespa players are code A level.


You havent been watching WCS Korea obviously
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
August 24 2012 09:47 GMT
#364
one of the worst news ever...
how ridiculous can a professional organization be...
it feels like "you don't like my brother/cousin? so i don't like yours either!" -.-
now i'm curious to see what kespa will do to conceal that the first sc2 osl has missing an entire round (of 16) and 8 star players.

either kespa is incredibly stupid or brilliant- as they might have a reason to risk this... or they just underestimated the loyalty between esf and gom...
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
August 24 2012 09:47 GMT
#365
I feel like Kespa never even tried to give me, a viewer who doesn't understand Korean, a good experience. I support this ESF decision and will continue giving money to events they attend.
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:55:45
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#366
Really solid move by ESF. It's important to note that its the teams and players who has made the decision, not the parenting organization.
https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#367
On August 24 2012 18:43 TheWorldToCome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:40 EnE wrote:
For fuck sake, I DONT WANT TO SEE FLASH GET OWNED BY A RANDOM CODE B PLAYER! LET THEM FUCKING PRACTICE FIRST!


Shouldn't Flash make the decision for himself whether he wants to compete in a tournament or not.


NO because he is on a team with a salary, why do people talk about players like this. He is an employee!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#368
On August 24 2012 18:40 EnE wrote:
For fuck sake, I DONT WANT TO SEE FLASH GET OWNED BY A RANDOM CODE B PLAYER! LET THEM FUCKING PRACTICE FIRST!


Completely irrelevant.

First, this won't happen.

Second, we don't ask for KeSPA players to be forced to play in the GSL. We just want that they have the right to do so if they want.

Btw, RorO beating Leenock, SKT_Rain going toe to toe with Creator, does that mean they'll be owned by a random Code B player ? Personally, I don't think so...
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#369
Risky gamble from ESF. If it works, KeSPA backs down and lets the players compete in GSL, but if it fails it has the potential to damage the Korean SC2 scene possibly beyond repair. Hope they know what they're doing.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#370
On August 24 2012 18:39 wwowz wrote:
Here is the translation. Hope I'm not too late It was pretty hard to translate as the response from ESF was really formal and serious.


Thank you so much. Added it to the OP. You are a friend of esports
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#371
On August 24 2012 18:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
OGN gets fucked over, the OSL gets fucked over, the players get fucked over, the sponsor gets fucked over and most importantly we the spectators get fucked over.

regardless of what kespa did, this is worse.


Sometimes medicine doesn't taste good, but it's good in the long run.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#372
On August 24 2012 18:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
OGN gets fucked over, the OSL gets fucked over, the players get fucked over, the sponsor gets fucked over and most importantly we the spectators get fucked over.

regardless of what kespa did, this is worse.



Agree
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
August 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#373
On August 24 2012 18:43 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:39 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:35 JustPassingBy wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:34 ShadeR wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:29 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:28 ShadeR wrote:
LOL way to lose your moral high ground by exiting a league you've already committed to as well as participated in.


Because KeSPA decision was tremendously moral.

Seriously.......

Did you even read what i wrote?


Yes, he is implying that you can pull unmoral stuff on a party which did the same before without losing the moral high ground.
That's at least his personal opinion.


Exactly. I think you can't judge the decision itself without comparing wich what caused it. I don't like it personnally, because if it means the end of this OSL, then it's extremely sad for both parties players and fans overall...

But then, when someone shoot you with a gun, are you gonna just reply by asking them gently to stop ? Some pull a gun and shoot back...

Thats complete bullshit. You cannot possibly equate deciding not the participate in a tourney to completely pulling out of a tourney that you've already committed to, the Ro16 no less. It's a false equivalence. Whatever moral highground they might have gained resulting from KeSPA's move is all but done the gutter.


Nope. They had to pull out as the agreement was that kespa players would participate in the GSL while some federation players played in the OSL. If they don't pull out Kespa/OSL fucks over GOM by getting great players yet give nothing in return, it's obvious that the federation players wouldn't allow that.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#374
On August 24 2012 18:45 Dakure wrote:
Instead of being the bigger man, GOM is pulling a tantrum. Completely unprofessional. I am no longer purchasing any of their subscriptions. I hope you're happy GOM.


Lol

Troll post?
Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
August 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#375
Kids will always be kids?
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#376
what happens to this OSL @_@
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
August 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#377
On August 24 2012 18:45 Dakure wrote:
Instead of being the bigger man, GOM is pulling a tantrum. Completely unprofessional. I am no longer purchasing any of their subscriptions. I hope you're happy GOM.


eSF is not GOM...... So... yeah....
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:52:32
August 24 2012 09:50 GMT
#378
And so it begun...
or continue?
But for sure not end.

After so much player/personal drama in sc2 we get some company/business drama.
What do you want more?

+ Show Spoiler +
Perhaps good sc2 games?
Save gaming: kill esport
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
August 24 2012 09:50 GMT
#379
This is madness. I really don't see what they gain by doing this.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 24 2012 09:50 GMT
#380
On August 24 2012 18:49 Za7oX wrote:
what happens to this OSL @_@


Well, if this isn't resolved by then, maybe they will just have them play the Round of 8 lol
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