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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:35 MCXD wrote: This. Even in Korea, there are plenty of BW fans yes, but not KeSPA fans. I doubt one would be possible without the second tbh. Give the credit where its due, Kespa did as good as bad for scene. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:36 Lolli92 wrote: You are not right. The deal between Gom, Ongamenet, Kespa and Blizzard contained a "paragraph" that stated that Kespa players would be able to participate in any GomTv league if they want to do so and meet the requirements. This was only fair so that both Ongamenet and Gom could have all the best players and build up rivalries over both leagues etc. The Kespa players wanted that a lot as well. So Kespa did not stay on the mutual agreement and the ESF is now in all right to protect their players from too much exposure and stress of a possible triple match schedule from GSL, GSTL and OS2L. Source please? | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:29 Jakkerr wrote: korean bw scene is small compared with the foreign scene. Foreign scene will boycot KeSPA events/players. yea, because any foreign sc2 event has ever come close to equaling the live audience of OSL or proleague finals 4.7m views for mlg across all games, 10m views in china alone for jin air osl finals only hmmm | ||
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Freud
Sweden54 Posts
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
People saying that they can snipe ESF players when their deal runs out should consider that in one year Kespa teams might not have nearly as much money. Also, most ESF players were pretty miserable when they were with Kespa teams and say they don't want to get back to those days, so that is also something else to consider. Sure ESF's move is more drastic than Kespa's but the reason they are doing it isn't simply because of the GSL thing, it's to limit Kespa's power and not shut down any other league that doesn't answer directly to them, like they did in BW. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:35 sushiman wrote: KeSPA had far better grounds for choosing not to participate in next GSL since they haven't even fully switched from BW yet and already have PL and OSL going. ESF is just being huge dicks for withdrawing in the middle of a league as "retaliation". Extremely childish, no respect for ESF. Umm everyone knows that Kespa is doing a power play here. ESF would not do this if it was simply a matter of their players not being ready etc. Don't be naive. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50577 Posts
Yes I understand why they're doing it but lets see who is getting hurt here, the players and OGN themselves who actually weren't at fault in the first place(NO OGN IS NOT KESPA DON'T YOU EVEN DARE TO ARGUE THAT), This is the fucking Ro16 for fucks sake its basically the middle of the tournament, at least for the GSL it was the damn qualifiers. also GOM IS NOT ESF, SAME AS OGN IS NOT KESPA | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Dalai Lama @DalaiLama The best way of fulfilling your own interest is to take care of others. If only. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:37 mrtomjones wrote: Umm everyone knows that Kespa is doing a power play here. ESF would not do this if it was simply a matter of their players not being ready etc. Don't be naive. Swear there are some Kespa workers in here... | ||
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Mirrikh
Romania105 Posts
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wwowz
Canada156 Posts
 It was pretty hard to translate as the response from ESF was really formal and serious. From ESF// First of all, on behalf of E-sports federation, we are truly sad about what happened to KT's Woo Jeong Ho. We are truly sad to deliver this news around this time. Yesterday, we received a statement from Kespa that the players will not participate in GSL season. This was a shocking and disappointing news to us. We want to express our apology on the breach in partnership between Kespa and Esports Federation and on Kespa's decisions. GOMTV devoted great amount of effort to succesfully globalize Korean E-sports ever since the release of Starcraft II 2 years ago. Thanks to this, "E-sports Federation" was assembled to work side-by-side with GOMTV in the hope to carry Korean E-sports a step forward. Considering the days of "GOMTV Classic", the decision by Kespa to not participate in GSL is not a simple issue and we are afraid that it might recur in the future considering the situation. GOMTV provided Kespa players with various accommodations regarding the schedule and application process and yet the decision by Kespa seems to spoil the partnership between E-sports Federation and Kespa. One of the reasons that Kespa will not participate in GSL was that there is a conflict in scheduling of the players. This is pretty hard to accept as GOMTV was able to accommodate many schedule conflicts without any problem for the past 2 years and this was also the case for Kespa players who participated in WCS and WCG. E-Sports Federation does not want GSL to be removed from Korean E-sports and if it does, the effect of E-sports Federation players to the global E-sports will decrease for certain. We think that it is mandatory for Kespa to work with us and show great games to our viewers. As such, we have contacted teams of E-sports Federation (Startale, LG-IM, Prime, MVP, NSH, TSL, FXO) regarding the players who are participating in OSL (Nestea, MVP, DRG, MKP, Parting, San) to make the following decision: For the better future of Korean E-sports, we politely ask Kespa players to participate in GSL and until Kespa decides to allow their players to join GSL without any problem, we have decided to pull our players from OSL. It is also difficult for us to make such harsh decisions but we think it is necessary to appeal the dignity of GOMTV and E-sports Federation. Once again, we are truly apologetic regarding such news and we hope that Kespa would cooperate so that we can show amazing games to all of you. Thanks E-sports Federation Player representative Jae Deok "Nestea" IM E-sports Federation President Won Jong Wook source http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13438&id=1273735 | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:38 Mirrikh wrote: Suddenly all eyes are on Oz .Oz already stated he won't participate. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:38 lichter wrote: In the middle of my twitter feed filled with ESF vs Kespa updates I get this gem: Dalai Lama @DalaiLama The best way of fulfilling your own interest is to take care of others. If only. holy shit dalailama has a twitter :o | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:37 rauk wrote: yea, because any foreign sc2 event has ever come close to equaling the live audience of OSL or proleague finals 4.7m views for mlg across all games, 10m views in china alone for jin air osl finals only hmmm Specifically China. China is LoL now. China also has 80billion people. The Foreign SC2 audience is quite big and will grow much bigger when HOTS comes out. | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On August 24 2012 18:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: this is childish. Yes I understand why they're doing it but lets see who is getting hurt here, the players and OGN themselves who actually weren't at fault in the first place(NO OGN IS NOT KESPA DON'T YOU EVEN DARE TO ARGUE THAT), This is the fucking Ro16 for fucks sake its basically the middle of the tournament, at least for the GSL it was the damn qualifiers. Im with you on this one. | ||
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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