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Mahavishnu
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada396 Posts
August 23 2012 09:18 GMT
#161
Completely divisive.
everything is gravity
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 23 2012 09:20 GMT
#162
On August 23 2012 18:17 lost_artz wrote:
Kespa's gonna Kespa. Not surprised at all, they always manage to screw things up one way or another.


I am curious though on what the English casters are going to be allowed to say about these kinds of situations as well once the OSL starts with Moletrap. I know that they will want to comment when Kespa pulls shit like this, but are they going to be allowed to? I wonder how restrained they will be?
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 23 2012 09:20 GMT
#163
On August 23 2012 18:12 LgNKami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 16:49 xBillehx wrote:
Lame, a lot of the KeSPA players themselves said they wanted to participate but I guess the teams are still playing hard to get with GOM. -_-; It's stupid because they've already clashed in WCS and will continue to do so in OSL.

Still watching but it could have been oh so much more awesome to watch.

I think what KeSPA wants is for the KeSPA players to enter into the GSL and dominate.


Regardless what Kespa wants, their players showed interest in participating the GSL, so why would you forbid them?
Plus, the recent games showed that some Kespa players can stand toe-on-toe with GSL players and those players weren't even your average Code A material.
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 09:22:15
August 23 2012 09:20 GMT
#164
kespa still acting like it's 2008
https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 23 2012 09:20 GMT
#165
Kespa should set up their own tourney with a better stream so that Gom have to improve theirs
mistsifter
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia44 Posts
August 23 2012 09:22 GMT
#166
What I really disagree with is that despite Kespa being a 'players association' they are in fact limiting the opportunities of the players they represent. Not allowing their players to play just shows that they aren't willing to grow the industry that they're in.

I can only see business motivations behind this decision, and misguided ones at that.
fatmanrocks
Profile Joined July 2012
2 Posts
August 23 2012 09:22 GMT
#167
Well, people who know the BW history already knew this, but Kespa is officially KILLING ESPORTS with bs like this. So sad and disappointing. What can people do to convince them they are making the wrong decision? I won't support them unless they collaborate with GOM.
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland765 Posts
August 23 2012 09:23 GMT
#168
So, does this mean that the Elephant [Kespa] is hurting the Elephant [Elly] ? XD XD
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
August 23 2012 09:23 GMT
#169
I'm really curious if Blizzard has any room to moderate these types of things. While I'm fairly certain they can't just override KeSPA's decision like this, but maybe once their (kespa/ ogn) license to broadcast SC2 expires Blizzard could change the terms to where Kespa wouldn't be allowed to do things like this.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 09:24:45
August 23 2012 09:24 GMT
#170
On August 23 2012 18:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
I somehow get the feeling that Kespa is forbidding the players to participate in the GSL so that the OSL will gain an upper hand in the competition, as the OSL is not the only league with both GSL and Kespa players.

Also, note that "GSL player" means a player who happened to participate in the GSL and "Kespa player" means a player whos every move is controlled by Kespa.

Just like LG controlled MVP/Nestea participation in IEM and forefeiting WCS. Look thats the reality of this. Thats the sacriface you make if you get Samsung and Telecoms into industry and air it on TV.

And thats how it works in every established competition/business. Some people need to get real here and understand the what stakes are in question. Some adjustements can be made, sure but some people are over dramatizing this, and its working perfectly for GOM. Because they are on foreigners mercy.
Stork[gm]
dontstopmenow
Profile Joined August 2012
China8 Posts
August 23 2012 09:24 GMT
#171
Fucking Kespa.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 23 2012 09:24 GMT
#172
On August 23 2012 16:48 FataLe wrote:
wow seems to me kespa really wants for them to catch up so their debut in the gsl goes exactly the way they want it to.
I'm torn as I love high level play no matter where it comes from but im also dissapointed i won't get to see them this coming gsl.

sigh


Of course that's not the reason. This is a competition between OSL and GSL. Kespa simply wants to establish OSL as a better league than GSL. Since GOM don't have any power to control players not to participate OSL, so Kespa can play this card to make OSL a better tournament.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 23 2012 09:24 GMT
#173
On August 23 2012 18:23 Lemonayd wrote:
I'm really curious if Blizzard has any room to moderate these types of things. While I'm fairly certain they can't just override KeSPA's decision like this, but maybe once their (kespa/ ogn) license to broadcast SC2 expires Blizzard could change the terms to where Kespa wouldn't be allowed to do things like this.


Blizzard really isn't in the point to say anything to kespa/ogn. OGN and Kespa could just abbandon SC2 and SC2 would be dead in Korea.
dontstopmenow
Profile Joined August 2012
China8 Posts
August 23 2012 09:25 GMT
#174
Hey Blizzard, You must kill Kespa!
bks
Profile Joined October 2010
Ukraine62 Posts
August 23 2012 09:25 GMT
#175
Can someone translate this article? Is there some sort of explanation in it?
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 09:26:24
August 23 2012 09:25 GMT
#176
Basically, KeSPA got everything they ever wanted out of GOM, MLG, and Blizzard already.

Damn I'm pretty salty about this. Tough break for GSL.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 23 2012 09:26 GMT
#177
On August 23 2012 16:50 Canucklehead wrote:
Kespa wielding their iron grip again, which I find kind of sad. No free will for the players. Each WCS player in their interview said they would like to play in qualifiers, but it's up to their team. Always with that caveat of needing team permission. They're trained well.


Because they are pros, GSL players are just semi pros.

User was warned for this post
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 09:29:22
August 23 2012 09:27 GMT
#178
On August 23 2012 18:23 Lemonayd wrote:
I'm really curious if Blizzard has any room to moderate these types of things. While I'm fairly certain they can't just override KeSPA's decision like this, but maybe once their (kespa/ ogn) license to broadcast SC2 expires Blizzard could change the terms to where Kespa wouldn't be allowed to do things like this.


I really wish Blizzard was more involved with the development of their game as an esport, I really do. However, so far they haven't really shown much involvement (compared with Riot and LoL). I mean, they can easily put their foot down seeing as it is THEIR game.

Hopefully I'm proven wrong.

I really hope KeSPA's doing this because they're not confident of their players' skill levels yet, and would bring them into the GSL only after they've improved drastically.

If they're doing this because they want everything for themselves (which is the more likely case), then KeSPA can go f**k themselves.
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
August 23 2012 09:27 GMT
#179
Its a shrewd business move from Kespa, but I think its the wrong timing for that. Right now they should be working with everyone to promote SC2 as an esports worldwide. Only after their players have become irreplaceable assets to all everybody should they start this monopoly move. I just don't think that time has come yet.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 09:29:35
August 23 2012 09:28 GMT
#180
Not surprising.
Hopefully Kespa will start competing with Gom for the foreign audience and we will at least get better streams out of it.
Otherwise it's just a pointless attempt to monopolize Korean scene which will fail and give that position to Gom.
It's in the spectators best interests to have competition in Korea as both organizations have a spotty record.
Complete control over the scene by one of them will not lead to anything good.
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