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Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
August 23 2012 08:35 GMT
#101
Come on, KeSPA. Learn to cooperate.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 23 2012 08:35 GMT
#102
On August 23 2012 17:18 Lemonayd wrote:
With some of GOM's best now playing in the OSL, I already feel like the GSL is already being replaced. If things like this keep happening GOM has a rough future.


Yeah, I think it is purely a business decision by Kespa. If both leagues had both players, then where do the viewers go? I can still see them possibly opening it up for the future, but I think they want to make OSL top dog for this round by having the most interest, then we will see what they do next.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 23 2012 08:36 GMT
#103
On August 23 2012 17:32 altered wrote:
I wonder why Kespa and Gom dont get along. I mean that dates back to the Gom BW tournys where kespa also suddendly didnt alow the players to participate anymore. It seems to me there is something going on behind the scenes that we all dont know.
Anyways if its just for another GSL then we wont have to wait very long, it feels like there are 3 GSLs a month XD.

it wasn't KeSPA who had forbidden participation in the GOM Classics, but rather it was the several teams who decided that a third individual league was too much of a burden for their players. Thus, the GOM Classic died because too few teams were participating in it .. Proleague is king for KeSPA teams, and overrides all.
Writerptrk
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
August 23 2012 08:36 GMT
#104
Such a sad move for GOM, i think KeSPA is just trying to push OSL as the premier Starcraft2 league and get GOM out of the picture.
twitter@RickyMarou
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
August 23 2012 08:36 GMT
#105
Fucking kespa. Get with the fucking times, mangs.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
August 23 2012 08:36 GMT
#106
On August 23 2012 17:26 FXOBoSs wrote:
KESPA, as proven before, do not care for the foreign community. Their money is in television, and the local market.

Their free stream quality already surpasses GOM's paid stream. That's a big plus to the foreign audience. The massive names have already been stateside once to participate in an MLG. Will something like that happen again, possibly time will tell. It shouldn't shock anyone, we already know they practice a crazy amount, more than likely even more since they are working on a new game. So the time issue is likely a half truth, with the other part being they don't want anything to do with GOM.

The foreign audience is much greater for sc2 than it was with BW. I think they have already realized this, and are making strides to please us.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 23 2012 08:37 GMT
#107
usual behavior in the orient
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 08:37:45
August 23 2012 08:37 GMT
#108
That doesn't make much sense though. Some people don't know that much about OSL. If they sent some of their players to GSL, then it's free advertising for OSL too.

Plus, with MSL gone, there needs to be another individual league for KeSPA players to play in besides just OSL.
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imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
August 23 2012 08:37 GMT
#109
pisses me off that they would screw over someone like Mr. Chae
*eternalenvy fanboy*
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 23 2012 08:37 GMT
#110
On August 23 2012 17:34 BadAim wrote:
Have they stated why?!

This is sad news indeed...

They couldnt state why, because it was GOM message. So the message would obviously be presented in the way it was.

Stork[gm]
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
August 23 2012 08:38 GMT
#111
This is really sad for all involved, and I dont think kespa realises this but everyone loses here.

Kespa loses: They build on their bad image in the non-korean esports scene by essentially denying everyone else the opportunity to see the best players battle it out. Rather than take the opportunity to opening up to the foreign scene, they have once again chosen to keep themselves to themselves.

Kespa players lose: its ibvious the want the opportunities to compete more, gain new fans, have more opportunites to earn prize money... Nope, denied.

Gom players: have to continue getting bashed by the korean bw fans without a chance to fight it out in game on the gom turf.

Gomtv: loses the chance to grow its korean and foreign audience

The Fans: lose the chance to see more of the worlds best players.


This is such a bad time for this to happen, right when it looked like an awesome change in the scene (osl group nominations) was in flight.

Kespa killing esports all on their own.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
August 23 2012 08:38 GMT
#112
Red tape and bullshit like this is what's slowing down the growth of SC2 inside AND outside of Korea.
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 23 2012 08:39 GMT
#113
On August 23 2012 17:34 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:31 ArvickHero wrote:
Proleague is far too cutthroat at the moment, with 6 teams neck-to-neck in the standings. If you guys understand that Proleague is THE most important league for KeSPA players, then it's easy to understand why the teams have chosen to pass on the qualifiers this season.


But the cutthroat part is basically this weekend. Then the seeds will have been decided. And since there are Kespa players playing in WCS when Proleague was going on, I don't think that was the biggest issue.

hmm actually I was under the impression that Code A Qualifiers would be this weekend or before it, but seems like I was mistaken. My baddd ..
Writerptrk
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 23 2012 08:39 GMT
#114
Today the SC2 newbies finally get to see the monster that is KeSPA. This is not new, it's not the first time they have held players from GOM, and it will likely not be the last.

Welcome to KeSPA.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
RobbieF
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia28 Posts
August 23 2012 08:40 GMT
#115
I am really disappointed, I hope that this is not how Kespa will continue to do business. This kind of thing will turn away foreign fans as fast as anything. There is nothing more that pisses off a western consumer more than a company or brand that is trying to manipulate us for whatever reason. We get enough of that stuff from our politicians. The only thing that would make this situation better in my opinion is if they honestly said that they felt that none of the players would be ready to take on code a and they need another month or two to be competitive. Th
If only I was smart enough to write something clever.
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
August 23 2012 08:40 GMT
#116
Seriously... Seriously!?!?

This reminds me of a bad movie. At some point you think it will get better and you won't feel like it was a total waste, but SURPRISE! Still a shitty movie.
You can attack with this?!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33604 Posts
August 23 2012 08:41 GMT
#117
sad, and completely predictable
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
August 23 2012 08:41 GMT
#118
KeSPA will be KeSPA I guess, hopefully they let the players play in the next qualifiers in that case
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 08:42:45
August 23 2012 08:41 GMT
#119
On August 23 2012 17:39 Diamond wrote:
Today the SC2 newbies finally get to see the monster that is KeSPA. This is not new, it's not the first time they have held players from GOM, and it will likely not be the last.

Welcome to KeSPA.


To be fair, the first time it made sense because KeSPA players were doing OSL, Proleague, "and" MSL "and" some were doing GOM Classic too. (Of course MSL is gone now, so that's excuse can't be used.)

There were times you could defense KeSPA back then...

Of course this time it doesn't make sense at all. It would be a win-win for everyone if KeSPA lets their player play in GSL.

It doesn't matter who, just send someone (even if they're a B teamer) to attempt to qualify.

At least try to show some collaboration or at least tell them they'll participate in the future for sure (if it was due to scheduling conflicts).
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 23 2012 08:42 GMT
#120
Well, the kespa league gets like way more viewers than Code S and especially way more than Code A. There is absolute no reason to play in koreans tournament, that gives them like zero exposure compared to OSL and PL
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