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On August 23 2012 06:32 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:30 Mohdoo wrote:
EG has a deal with Slayers
Boxer becoming coach of SKT
Stephano training with SKT?
i thought of kespa acquiring stephano because of "awesome salary" but there's a agreement of no player trading/acquiring, right? between federation and kespa.
Yes but federation does not include foreign teams. So federation teams and kespa teams are free to buy foreigners and foreign teams can pick up whoever they want too.
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On August 23 2012 06:34 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:32 jinorazi wrote:On August 23 2012 06:30 Mohdoo wrote:
EG has a deal with Slayers
Boxer becoming coach of SKT
Stephano training with SKT?
i thought of kespa acquiring stephano because of "awesome salary" but there's a agreement of no player trading/acquiring, right? between federation and kespa. Yes but federation does not include foreign teams. So federation teams and kespa teams are free to buy foreigners and foreign teams can pick up whoever they want too.
well then...i think it'll be exciting if stephano joins one of kespa teams but seems unlikely since he has little experience in korea...but maybe $$$ won him over?
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On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect.
Pretty much on point.
I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them.
EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though.
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On August 23 2012 06:37 Sroobz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect. Pretty much on point. I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them. EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though.
apparently winning nearly $90,000 while on EG is underachieving. And also being in Code S means you are a bad korean.
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On August 23 2012 06:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:37 Sroobz wrote:On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect. Pretty much on point. I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them. EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though. apparently winning nearly $90,000 while on EG is underachieving. And also being in Code S means you are a bad korean.
Pfft I worded it wrong. Puma just looks far worse than other Korean Terrans. I still respect him and acknowledge his achievements. Underachieving was clearly the wrong statement lol
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On August 23 2012 06:37 Sroobz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect. Pretty much on point. I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them. EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though.
yeah cause being in code s is just fucking horrendous, also puma in underachieving? i cant tell if ur post was troll or not...
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On August 23 2012 06:36 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:34 Lorch wrote:On August 23 2012 06:32 jinorazi wrote:On August 23 2012 06:30 Mohdoo wrote:
EG has a deal with Slayers
Boxer becoming coach of SKT
Stephano training with SKT?
i thought of kespa acquiring stephano because of "awesome salary" but there's a agreement of no player trading/acquiring, right? between federation and kespa. Yes but federation does not include foreign teams. So federation teams and kespa teams are free to buy foreigners and foreign teams can pick up whoever they want too. well then...i think it'll be exciting if stephano joins one of kespa teams but seems unlikely since he has little experience in korea...but maybe $$$ won him over?
I'm sure Kespa teams would love a foreigner to join their ranks, especially with the fine example of the last foreigner in a Kespa team - Idra.
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On August 23 2012 06:42 Sroobz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 23 2012 06:37 Sroobz wrote:On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect. Pretty much on point. I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them. EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though. apparently winning nearly $90,000 while on EG is underachieving. And also being in Code S means you are a bad korean. Pfft I worded it wrong. Puma just looks far worse than other Korean Terrans. I still respect him and acknowledge his achievements. Underachieving was clearly the wrong statement lol
compared to who? mvp and taeja obviously look the best right now, but what other terran is their to compare him to that goes to foreign tournaments? forgg i guess?
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On August 23 2012 06:34 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:32 jinorazi wrote:On August 23 2012 06:30 Mohdoo wrote:
EG has a deal with Slayers
Boxer becoming coach of SKT
Stephano training with SKT?
i thought of kespa acquiring stephano because of "awesome salary" but there's a agreement of no player trading/acquiring, right? between federation and kespa. Yes but federation does not include foreign teams. So federation teams and kespa teams are free to buy foreigners and foreign teams can pick up whoever they want too.
Doesn't need to be on SKT to train with SKT. Just look at Mil/TSL and EG/Slayers. With Boxer being SKT's coach, the connection is clearly possible. EG--->Slayers--->SKT.
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On August 23 2012 06:47 Ezaura_au wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:36 jinorazi wrote:On August 23 2012 06:34 Lorch wrote:On August 23 2012 06:32 jinorazi wrote:On August 23 2012 06:30 Mohdoo wrote:
EG has a deal with Slayers
Boxer becoming coach of SKT
Stephano training with SKT?
i thought of kespa acquiring stephano because of "awesome salary" but there's a agreement of no player trading/acquiring, right? between federation and kespa. Yes but federation does not include foreign teams. So federation teams and kespa teams are free to buy foreigners and foreign teams can pick up whoever they want too. well then...i think it'll be exciting if stephano joins one of kespa teams but seems unlikely since he has little experience in korea...but maybe $$$ won him over? I'm sure Kespa teams would love a foreigner to join their ranks, especially with the fine example of the last foreigner in a Kespa team - Idra.
yeah...he did not do so well, he didn't become a poker player after all like rest of the foreigner legends of kespa.
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On August 21 2012 22:31 Yaki wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 22:29 FairForever wrote:On August 21 2012 22:26 Yaki wrote:On August 21 2012 22:25 TAMinator wrote:
Stephano gonna get dem monehs.
Hopefully he doesnt fall off the radar like a lot of EG players. Like every EG players you mean. Thanks for that unbiased piece of important information. Sounds like you've clearly thought about your post and know definitively that all EG players are pretty bad. Then tell me which EG player can be considered a world class player right now ?
Thorzain, an Puma are good starts. An if you look at those power rankings that came out not long ago Huk, IdrA, and JYP were also high on that list. So I think you're bias is showing there good sir an if that's not bias I blame it on lunacy.
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On August 23 2012 06:43 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:37 Sroobz wrote:On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect. Pretty much on point. I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them. EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though. yeah cause being in code s is just fucking horrendous, also puma in underachieving? i cant tell if ur post was troll or not...
Also iNcontroL is totally not an asshole, and from the few times I've had the opportunity to talk with IdrA, he seems pretty chill in person too.
Probably just a troll post, considering he was greatly exaggerating and just plain wrong with everything he said.
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Really don't see why there is so much hate for EG. Could someone explain please?
I think all the pro teams are great, facilitating our passion by bankrolling players... where is the hate coming from? Shame.
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On August 23 2012 06:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:43 sam05396 wrote:On August 23 2012 06:37 Sroobz wrote:On August 23 2012 05:46 xrapture wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about EG is their attitude. It is baffling to me as to why Incontrol always says, "well we're the Yankees of esports. We have really high expectations, which is great, but when we don't win every tournament we get a lot of flack"
Seriously? No one has high expectations for EG, it's actually the opposite.I don't think a soul was surprised that Demuslim and Puma finished last in their IEM groups. Man up and say you guys have been playing like shit. Don't act like you're fucking victims. Guess how many people think an EG player will win Raleigh? You guessed it! 0.
Incontrol, you won a showmatch against Combatex? Awesome bro. Tweet about it some more, it's going to do wonders for your practice.
Idra, complain that NA is shit every day and get stomped in the WCS North American tournament. Awesome bro.
Players like Demuslim and Machine perform poorly, but no one gives them shit because there personalities aren't fucking disgusting like Incontrol's and Idra's.
Hell, look at Jinro who retired a hero.
You guys aren't the victims. Calling Naniwa autistic when you're not even good enough to lick his boots-- classy.
Have fun getting smashed at MLG for the 10th time in a row. Though, I'll be rooting for you Thorzain (and demuslim, machine, and suppy) When you act with respect you get treated with respect. Pretty much on point. I'll root for Thorzain and Demuslim because they aren't assholes like idra and incontrol. I'll root for Stephano if he joins them. EG has 2 really mediocre koreans too - Puma is an underachieving Korean Terran under EG's leadership, and JYP is just a bad korean. If Stephano joins EG...idk I just hope he doesn't join. I will still root for Stephano though. yeah cause being in code s is just fucking horrendous, also puma in underachieving? i cant tell if ur post was troll or not... Also iNcontroL is totally not an asshole, and from the few times I've had the opportunity to talk with IdrA, he seems pretty chill in person too. Probably just a troll post, considering he was greatly exaggerating and just plain wrong with everything he said.
IdrA and Greg are two different personalities.
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On August 23 2012 06:57 Detri wrote:
Really don't see why there is so much hate for EG. Could someone explain please?
I think all the pro teams are great, facilitating our passion by bankrolling players... where is the hate coming from? Shame.
It's general jealousy that EG can actually offer good players good salaries, even if they don't win literally every tournament ever. EG has a great business model and many sponsors (because EG and its players do a great job of promoting their brand), and other teams don't yet have such an established company. Therefore, not all teams are as wealthy and can afford to pay their players enough money, even if the players are worth it.
EG does a great job of taking care of its players, and they run a good business and competition, and some people become upset when the business aspect (rather than the team aspect) is shown. Occasionally, EG buys out a player that used to be on a smaller team. That's business. Instead of hating on EG though, people should be happy that the player is making a better living, as this is his profession. It's better for the future of e-sports.
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really excited to see stephano in tournaments coming up, didnt realize he was only 19
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On August 23 2012 07:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:57 Detri wrote:
Really don't see why there is so much hate for EG. Could someone explain please?
I think all the pro teams are great, facilitating our passion by bankrolling players... where is the hate coming from? Shame.
It's general jealousy that EG can actually offer good players good salaries, even if they don't win literally every tournament ever. EG has a great business model and many sponsors (because EG and its players do a great job of promoting their brand), and other teams don't yet have such an established company. Therefore, not all teams are as wealthy and can afford to pay their players enough money, even if the players are worth it. EG does a great job of taking care of its players, and they run a good business and competition, and some people become upset when the business aspect (rather than the team aspect) is shown. Occasionally, EG buys out a player that used to be on a smaller team. That's business. Instead of hating on EG though, people should be happy that the player is making a better living, as this is his profession. It's better for the future of e-sports.
Ah thanks, really just didn't get why there was so much hate. If I were a pro i'd love to be on EG  !
If it really is just as petty as that all you haters should all truly be ashamed. I know people like to be "indie" and shit but Jesus, hating a team because they are successful. How's that helping e-sports and the growth of StarCraft? I can only dream of a Starcraft TV channel in the UK but with attitudes like that in the community its a long way off.
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Half of this thread should turn to accounting to be your major profession, you are all so sure about which numbers are right for Stephano's salary ^^ I didn't know you guys handled his bank statements so well.
Predicting what he might make is one thing, but a portion of this thread is arguing hypothetical predictions and opinions which is ridiculous. Make your prediction and leave it at that, discussing semantics becomes exhausting.
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On August 22 2012 08:45 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Ok so I made a few joke comments in here (more with the fun) but it is actually a really silly idea that Stephano will simply lose money based on getting more money with EG... Stephano has proven firstly that he is all about money and making more of it, I highly doubt he will simply go "making 6 figures, that's it for me" because he wants to be the wealthiest player to play (hell he's giving up being a doctor for SC2 which has been an extreme decision pacing through his mind for the previous year plus)
So will Stephano decline? No, in fact I would wager that he will be the inspirational boost that EG really needs. This year might have been the Year of TaejaLiquid but if EG plays its cards right it might be the year of StephanoEG.
Sorry to break it you, but you don't just become a doctor even if that's what you decide to do...
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Dunno about you, but I'm happy when a company does well, and is able to spread the 'wellness' to as many people around. Stephano showed awesome talent and performances. EG made it possible for him to step up: financially, practice environment-wise, and in other ways. EG is promoting esports. Too much of TL is hating. Guess which are the bad guys.
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