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On August 18 2012 08:12 Oerbaa wrote: Nice to see Terran get some splash damage but it sounds like its going to be really really strong XD, hope the beta is out soon, don't even care if i get in or not i want to watch streams of it :D
It's going to be strong, but you have to understand. Spider mines were "imba" because you needed to have detection and be wary of where you sent your units. That's exactly how the widow mine is supposed to help positional play, opponent's can't simply 1a into your army now.
It also goes for the other races as well though. The blinding cloud will just be as "strong" as well as the mass oracle cloak. All of these things will be very strong in interesting ways which is fine.
The widow mine with the timer was fundamentally flawed as it could not be used with your army while the other races get things that actually make their deathballs stronger and the mine would make terran's weaker. That is a huge reason for their change I'm very sure of it that they found this out.
Hope beta is soon !
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Spider mines were also imba because you got 3 of them on a 75 mineral unit that was the fastest unit ingame and could 2 shot drones and probes. Its a good step towards true mech possiblities.
Fantasy is going to be happy.
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Now remove their supply cost.
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Wait a minute what? No splash damage on the mine? Lol I just read that. OK, 1 step, forward two steps back blizzard.
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gais... keep in mind that it's blizzard saying soon. So soon could mean like a year or so
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1) Remove Hellion 2) Add Vultures (same functionality from BW) 3) ???? 4) PROFIT!!!
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On August 18 2012 13:12 avilo wrote: Wait a minute what? No splash damage on the mine? Lol I just read that. OK, 1 step, forward two steps back blizzard.
Read carefully man. It says "changed" not something like "removed". They just nerfed splash radius and splash damage.
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Buildable Baneing/Seeker Missles that go against your own stated principles of game design? Ugh, Browder...
This is ridiculous. This game needs double the splash.
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I still don't like the fact that the Spider Mine costs food. They should be 2 mines per Hellion IMO. Scrap the BH. Mech is already to supply heavy with 3 food Tanks. You simply do not have enough stuff to combat the cost efficiency of a Protoss DeathBall. Not only is the Protoss Death Ball more mobile, but it has more fire power and is more cost efficient and has more health.
And really no changes to the Warhound yet?
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Ideally 0.5 supply mines with weaker explosions would be best (or 0 supply mines that come with a unit — possibly through upgrade), but the current version isn't too bad. Terran needs mines however they come. Terran IS positional play.
I'm happy that Blizzard is realizing this. Even though they're continuing to neuter the tank this (mines) is still a step in the right direction.
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soon(tm)
I smiled at this lololol.
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"spider mine had a 10sec timer, they took this away and they changed the splash radius and damage gradient"
so.... widow mine is still in, just without the timer, and a smaller radius?
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Will people be switching over to HoTs immediately? I remember the original Starcraft was still being played when Broodwar came out.
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On August 18 2012 13:12 avilo wrote: Wait a minute what? No splash damage on the mine? Lol I just read that. OK, 1 step, forward two steps back blizzard. Classic, avilos selective reading skills strike again. Splash damages is now like the siege tank, less damage the farther away from the middle.
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On August 18 2012 14:11 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 13:12 avilo wrote: Wait a minute what? No splash damage on the mine? Lol I just read that. OK, 1 step, forward two steps back blizzard. Classic, avilos selective reading skills strike again. Splash damages is now like the siege tank, less damage the farther away from the middle.
Nono. I read a post that said it only now targetted a single unit with no splash. They were obviously wrong thank god lmao ;d
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So excited for the beta! :D
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Raven, hellion, tanks, PF, and thor. Why do I still see people complaining that terran didn't have enough aoe?
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On August 18 2012 14:29 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Raven, hellion, tanks, PF, and thor. Why do I still see people complaining that terran didn't have enough aoe?
you forgot the ultimate aoe......NUKE!!
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On August 18 2012 14:34 SuperYo1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 14:29 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Raven, hellion, tanks, PF, and thor. Why do I still see people complaining that terran didn't have enough aoe? you forgot the ultimate aoe......NUKE!! And emp too. Obviously wood league!
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they need to nerf fungul..... make it a slowing spell
and then buff the hydralisk like this:
1) unnerf the 2 nerfs the hydralisk got in the past
2) make off creep movement speed 2.5
3) remove Grooved spines and make 6 range the default range of the hydralisk.
4) speed upgrade at hive
BLIZZARD ITS THAT SIMPLE!
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