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Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
August 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#141
Guys it does mean that the planning for the matches wont be nearly as prevalent but its only for one season and its just cuz of wcs so its a nice change of pace and i cant wait
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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
August 12 2012 01:17 GMT
#142
Sounds good imo.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
August 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#143
I am 100% against this - the match preparation is one of the things that seperates the GSL tournament from others. It also presents two issues, one mostly affecting Koreans and Australians, the other affecting the players:

#1) The time of the event will make it difficult for Australians and Koreans to watch, most likely. One of the reasons GSL is my favourite tournament (aside from having the best players and games), is that it's on at a time suitable for barcrafts or parties at my place.

#2) Ro8 players are not usually the top 8 o the tournaments, it's possible to just prepare better and get that far, but have pretty average standard play. To get further than that you need to be a bona-fide starcraft master, except in this tournament. You could prepare good builds then run up against somebody good enough to beat you in normal GSL anyway, because they can prepare for your cheese. Except instead of getting eliminated by a better opponent, the cheese is totally unexpected and we get a worse player through to Ro4 who will most likely play bad games AGAIN.

All that said, I'll still watch and the crowd will probably be sick as hell.
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 01:22:45
August 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#144
On August 12 2012 10:16 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:12 ES.Genie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:06 Demorase wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone's overreacting like this. These are pros, they're adaptable, it's not like they're gonna fall apart just cause they have to play matches closer than usual, they'll be fine.

Yeah they'll have less preparation time but I don't think it's such a big deal, they will "prepare to having less preparation"

I don't care if they can handle the pressure or not - the decision to do this is still bullshit.

There is a reason why GSL is pretty much the only tournament I follow really close and this completely takes away everything I love about it.


Nah, you like the GSL because they have the best players and Tastosis, has nothing to do with the format. They'll have all that, just more exciting but shorter.

So...are you seriously trying to tell me why I like the GSL? oO

EDIT: Actually by making it shorter they take away most of the exitement. I don't care about weekend tournaments. They are boring and no one remembers them after a couple of weeks. That's not GSL.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#145
On August 12 2012 10:16 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:12 ES.Genie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:06 Demorase wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone's overreacting like this. These are pros, they're adaptable, it's not like they're gonna fall apart just cause they have to play matches closer than usual, they'll be fine.

Yeah they'll have less preparation time but I don't think it's such a big deal, they will "prepare to having less preparation"

I don't care if they can handle the pressure or not - the decision to do this is still bullshit.

There is a reason why GSL is pretty much the only tournament I follow really close and this completely takes away everything I love about it.


Nah, you like the GSL because they have the best players and Tastosis, has nothing to do with the format. They'll have all that, just more exciting but shorter.


I'm glad you know what everyone likes and can tell them.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 12 2012 01:19 GMT
#146
November will be too late for the fifth GSL season and Blizzard Cup. I think IPL5 will be in September.
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 12 2012 01:21 GMT
#147
well, Grubby brought up a good point:

Manuel Schenkhuizen ‏@followgrubby
Super exciting you'll have #GSL Ro8-Finals at IPL 5, this means finals will probably not be a 4-0 cuz no special preps. #GOOD @IGNProLeague
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
August 12 2012 01:21 GMT
#148
On August 12 2012 10:15 soulist wrote:
My foreign 5: Stephano, Naniwa, Mana, Nerchio, and Demuslim(dont think hes top 5 but there needs to be a terran and he seems to be the best foreign terran atm)


Foreign terrans ? What's that ?

Also all you people need to calm down. Do we know it will be played over a weekend ? We don't. Wait for mor info before bashing please.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 12 2012 01:22 GMT
#149
On August 12 2012 10:19 Proseat wrote:
November will be too late for the fifth GSL season and Blizzard Cup. I think IPL5 will be in September.


No it wont be. We still have season 4 coming up and then Season 5 at IPL5 and then Blizzard Cup is what im guessing.
#TheOneTrueDong
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
August 12 2012 01:23 GMT
#150
On August 12 2012 10:18 ES.Genie wrote:
So...are you seriously trying to tell me why I like the GSL? oO


You know I'm right, you'll be posting months from now how the event was the most epic finals and stuff

On August 12 2012 10:18 Dodgin wrote:
I'm glad you know what everyone likes and can tell them.


And you are? xD
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 12 2012 01:24 GMT
#151
Will be cool to see Naniwa, Stephano, Mana, Thorzain and another foreigner versus DRG, MKP, MC, TaeJa and another Korean.
#TheOneTrueDong
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
August 12 2012 01:24 GMT
#152
On August 12 2012 10:16 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:12 ES.Genie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:06 Demorase wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone's overreacting like this. These are pros, they're adaptable, it's not like they're gonna fall apart just cause they have to play matches closer than usual, they'll be fine.

Yeah they'll have less preparation time but I don't think it's such a big deal, they will "prepare to having less preparation"

I don't care if they can handle the pressure or not - the decision to do this is still bullshit.

There is a reason why GSL is pretty much the only tournament I follow really close and this completely takes away everything I love about it.


Nah, you like the GSL because they have the best players and Tastosis, has nothing to do with the format. They'll have all that, just more exciting but shorter.
It's not that at all. The GSL has the best players *at playing preparation style tournaments*. They're the players who know how to spend a weeks time preparing for a single opponent. Seeing the GSL R8 players compete in a weekend tournament isn't that meaningful.
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
August 12 2012 01:26 GMT
#153
Hey guys i have an amazing idea? Why dont we take the best part of GSL and make it IPL5.2 im sure if we take everything what GSL stands for and throw it away we will make lots of money.
captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
August 12 2012 01:26 GMT
#154
World Team: Major, Stephano, Thorzain, Naniwa, Sen

Korean Team: MKP, MC, Taeja, DRG, Nestea
https://x.com/CaptainWaffless
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
August 12 2012 01:27 GMT
#155
On August 12 2012 10:23 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:18 ES.Genie wrote:
So...are you seriously trying to tell me why I like the GSL? oO


You know I'm right, you'll be posting months from now how the event was the most epic finals and stuff

No.

End of the discussion, since you are obviously trolling.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
August 12 2012 01:30 GMT
#156
On August 12 2012 10:27 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:23 Demorase wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:18 ES.Genie wrote:
So...are you seriously trying to tell me why I like the GSL? oO


You know I'm right, you'll be posting months from now how the event was the most epic finals and stuff

No.

End of the discussion, since you are obviously trolling.


Haha alright, gotta love the open-mindedness :p
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
August 12 2012 01:31 GMT
#157
I would rather not have the Ro8 played there. GSL has the best games also because their players have lots of time to prepare for their match.
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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 01:35:18
August 12 2012 01:31 GMT
#158
On August 12 2012 10:18 althaz wrote:
#2) Ro8 players are not usually the top 8 o the tournaments, it's possible to just prepare better and get that far, but have pretty average standard play. To get further than that you need to be a bona-fide starcraft master, except in this tournament. You could prepare good builds then run up against somebody good enough to beat you in normal GSL anyway, because they can prepare for your cheese. Except instead of getting eliminated by a better opponent, the cheese is totally unexpected and we get a worse player through to Ro4 who will most likely play bad games AGAIN.

All that said, I'll still watch and the crowd will probably be sick as hell.


All that means is that your Ro8 foe failed to prepare adequately for his one and only known opponent, so he deserved to lose anyway. A much better argument is that the eventual finalists wouldn't have much/any time to prepare for each other.

Edit: Alternatively, the Ro8 quality could be affected by jet lag and/or players trying to do double duty, but both of these are somewhat schedule-dependent.
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Grimbob
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
August 12 2012 01:32 GMT
#159
Yeah, I get why you're all so annoyed. Having all those games over one weekend is going to ruin the normally prestigious and spectacular GSL Code S finals...

Seriously though, the GSL has a history of having boring and one sided finals. Maybe without all the preparation time for the players to engineer specific builds that just 4-0 hard counter their opponent's playstyle, the finals will be a lot better. I think this is just going to make an awesome weekend of games. I'd even dare to say that, if this works out, it could be the most exciting final yet.
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
August 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#160
Blah. Don't like that many games being put into one weekend. So much of the quality of games comes from the prep they do beforehand.
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