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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 08 2012 14:36 GMT
#21
On August 08 2012 23:35 CaptainCrush wrote:
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On August 08 2012 23:27 iiGreetings wrote:
Whoa pretty danm balanced... because i heard that terran was struggling, but it turns out its dead even with zerg basically. Thanks for this grapefruit!

EDIT:i speak of the korean ladder, as they are ahead of the meta game on average.


Unfortunately their metagame is to cheese or 1-base all in most of the time. The international terran win rate shows you what happens if you go beyond the early game :/


don't spread bullshit. The meta is to get a fast 3rd into a 2-2 timing before hive tech.
Zest fanboy.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 08 2012 14:36 GMT
#22
Note that TaeJa is carrying the Korean Terran TLPD :D
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 08 2012 14:36 GMT
#23
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 08 2012 14:37 GMT
#24
Std deviation bars?
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 08 2012 14:38 GMT
#25
what's the excuse this time guys?
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
August 08 2012 14:38 GMT
#26
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#27
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


plan to switch? it seems pointless to play T as a competitive foreigner.
Zest fanboy.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#28
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


are you ignoring the TvZ winrates of korea?
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 15:01:37
August 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#29
Edit: Read the graph wrong...
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
August 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#30
On August 08 2012 23:36 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:35 CaptainCrush wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:27 iiGreetings wrote:
Whoa pretty danm balanced... because i heard that terran was struggling, but it turns out its dead even with zerg basically. Thanks for this grapefruit!

EDIT:i speak of the korean ladder, as they are ahead of the meta game on average.


Unfortunately their metagame is to cheese or 1-base all in most of the time. The international terran win rate shows you what happens if you go beyond the early game :/


don't spread bullshit. The meta is to get a fast 3rd into a 2-2 timing before hive tech.


That's only for MKP, what are you so mad about?
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
August 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#31
On August 08 2012 23:39 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


are you ignoring the TvZ winrates of korea?

Well the graphs just show that zerg is way easier to play if anything. That's why they are hiring low league players for game balance, so they can also work on balancing difficulty.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#32
On August 08 2012 23:40 CaptainCrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:36 sAsImre wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:35 CaptainCrush wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:27 iiGreetings wrote:
Whoa pretty danm balanced... because i heard that terran was struggling, but it turns out its dead even with zerg basically. Thanks for this grapefruit!

EDIT:i speak of the korean ladder, as they are ahead of the meta game on average.


Unfortunately their metagame is to cheese or 1-base all in most of the time. The international terran win rate shows you what happens if you go beyond the early game :/


don't spread bullshit. The meta is to get a fast 3rd into a 2-2 timing before hive tech.


That's only for MKP, what are you so mad about?


that's for everyone. Reality/MKP/Taeja/Mvp...
Zest fanboy.
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
August 08 2012 14:41 GMT
#33
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


Yamato Canon upgrade done in 5 seconds less. Balance restored.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#34
On August 08 2012 23:40 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:39 nkr wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


are you ignoring the TvZ winrates of korea?

Well the graphs just show that zerg is way easier to play if anything. That's why they are hiring low league players for game balance, so they can also work on balancing difficulty.


but it also shows that terran is perfectly fine if you are good at the game, so maybe you should focus on that :D
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#35
On August 08 2012 23:39 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


plan to switch? it seems pointless to play T as a competitive foreigner.


His TvZ is actually pretty good comparatively, if people haven't switched by now there's really no reason to do so. At least until HotS is out.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
August 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#36
On August 08 2012 23:32 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:28 DoeniDon wrote:
Don't look bad at all!

If you listened to all the complaining lately, you'd think Zerg is at about 90% ...


If you see all those terran nerfs and zerg buffs, you would think that terrans would start to do worse. But no, our top korean terrans can be nerfed as hard as you want, they will keep dominating. I hope that one day people realise that some korean terrans are just gods.

On the other hand there are the high master / grandmaster terrans in EU and NA that suffer hard from those terran nerfs, because most of them don't have the time to practice 10 hours a day.



They lose because they aren't good and don't have the time to improve? Shocking imo.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#37
On August 08 2012 23:39 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.


No, there's literally < 50 games in Korea for this month, and probably 15 of those at most were TvZ.


Actually it's more than that. The number of games are on the graph.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
August 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#38
On August 08 2012 23:42 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:40 aTnClouD wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:39 nkr wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


are you ignoring the TvZ winrates of korea?

Well the graphs just show that zerg is way easier to play if anything. That's why they are hiring low league players for game balance, so they can also work on balancing difficulty.


but it also shows that terran is perfectly fine if you are good at the game, so maybe you should focus on that :D

So it's ok for me to be twice as good as somebody and still lose cause the race at top foreign level is too easy, while I would have to move to korea and practice with the best players there just to be competitive and balance the win rates with my own race. Solid point bro, try again maybe.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#39
On August 08 2012 23:43 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:39 sAsImre wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:38 aTnClouD wrote:
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.

Don't worry Blizzard is hiring diamond random people for game balance, justice will be done soon.


plan to switch? it seems pointless to play T as a competitive foreigner.


His TvZ is actually pretty good comparatively, if people haven't switched by now there's really no reason to do so. At least until HotS is out.


yeah i know but when TvZ is hard and you struggle in TvP... I wonder why there where like 0 switch in foreigner scene as soon as you realized that T was harder. ThorZaiN ie would be a wonderful P with his spoon style which no longer works as a T...
Zest fanboy.
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
August 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#40
On August 08 2012 23:39 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 23:36 ragz_gt wrote:
Holy just realized that international includes Korean... Foreign TvZ must be like 40% win rate.


No, there's literally < 50 games in Korea for this month, and probably 15 of those at most were TvZ.


Where do you take this from? It clearly says 871 games of which 321 were ZvTs.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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