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DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 01 2012 05:54 GMT
#161
On August 01 2012 14:39 Snijjer wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a Korean on that team.

The way the CEO was talking to them was so terribly stereotypically American - as if they are deaf and stupid.

The way that gets parodied in movies, now you know where it comes from.


Because you are not good at English doesn't mean you are stupid. He talks to them the way they understand best, nothing wrong about that.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
August 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#162
Really a good behind-the-scenes look at the management of a team. Different perspective from Liquid Rising in that Liquid Rising was more of the players themselves, whereas Generations was more about the team in general.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#163
On August 01 2012 14:39 Snijjer wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a Korean on that team.

The way the CEO was talking to them was so terribly stereotypically American - as if they are deaf and stupid.

The way that gets parodied in movies, now you know where it comes from.


have you ever tried talking to someone who barely comprehends your language?

trust me. it makes things a whole lot easier. in fact, i've had koreans talk that way to me in korean.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#164
On August 01 2012 14:39 Snijjer wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a Korean on that team.

The way the CEO was talking to them was so terribly stereotypically American - as if they are deaf and stupid.

The way that gets parodied in movies, now you know where it comes from.


LOL you wish you were on ANY team. Give me a break.
SurroundSound
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
106 Posts
August 01 2012 06:02 GMT
#165
ugghhhhhhhhh this makes me want to strive to be pro even more!!!!!!!!!!! I'd totally be on complexity and "throw a few back and forget about the loses" heh :D
Its not John Hancock...Its Herby Hancock
pique
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
August 01 2012 06:09 GMT
#166
this is pretty great. highly anticipating the start nation doco now.

krukar should be taking notes. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
etherealfall
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia476 Posts
August 01 2012 06:15 GMT
#167
Very cool insight. Sad at times when you see the look on the player's faces. But it's the competitive world D:
PooLarX
Profile Joined February 2010
United States38 Posts
August 01 2012 06:21 GMT
#168
EG and Complexity my two favorite western teams.

I have to say without a doubt J.LAKE and COL are stepping it up in a big way not only with the house but their academy and the production value on this doc was pretty stupendous I mean seriously good job.

I cannot wait to see what happens once their in house studio is finished / assembled?

EG better be on the look out they are gonna have REAL competition with a rival org.
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
August 01 2012 06:27 GMT
#169
awesome little video. J Lake is one of my favs in esports that guy is awesome
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siii
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway251 Posts
August 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#170
Following the counter strike scene J.Lake might not be the nice guy he gives himself out to be, and everyone here seems to think. Big stars like fRoD went out and said really bad things about him, while he was still on the team.

I could only find one video on youtube made by hellspawn(the joke)


But I'm sure there are more serious/better interviews, this got blown up pretty badly a few years back.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 01 2012 06:37 GMT
#171
On August 01 2012 14:39 Snijjer wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a Korean on that team.

The way the CEO was talking to them was so terribly stereotypically American - as if they are deaf and stupid.

The way that gets parodied in movies, now you know where it comes from.

Don't be ridiculous. Simplifying/dumbing down your grammar and using the simplest words you can to get the point across is the best way to talk to someone who's bad at the language.

I work with a couple of guys who don't speak English well and that's exactly how I communicate with them. If I were to try talking to them like I would any other native English speaker, they'd be lost and confused.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 01 2012 06:38 GMT
#172
Just a completely arbitrary comment: holy fuck they are so close to Heart in the open bracket seat.

There's no way he didn't hear what Socke's supply was.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 06:45:56
August 01 2012 06:45 GMT
#173
Oh my god. That really disappointing walk from the booth, only to be intercepted by a young boy looking for Heart's autograph.

"I was cheering for you."

T_T T_T T_T T_T T_T T_T T_T T_T TOUCHED MY HEART.

edit ok wow didn't do that on purpose i swear
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
August 01 2012 06:45 GMT
#174
On August 01 2012 14:54 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 14:39 Snijjer wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a Korean on that team.

The way the CEO was talking to them was so terribly stereotypically American - as if they are deaf and stupid.

The way that gets parodied in movies, now you know where it comes from.


Because you are not good at English doesn't mean you are stupid. He talks to them the way they understand best, nothing wrong about that.


That was the perfect way to talk to them, it wasn't stereotypical. If I had someone speaking to me in Japanese, I would MUCH rather have them speak in that manner because I can't understand or sift through the other fluff that they add in to make it "correct". Simple and to the point is the best way to convey the message.
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Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
August 01 2012 06:52 GMT
#175
On August 01 2012 15:34 siii wrote:
Following the counter strike scene J.Lake might not be the nice guy he gives himself out to be, and everyone here seems to think. Big stars like fRoD went out and said really bad things about him, while he was still on the team.

I could only find one video on youtube made by hellspawn(the joke) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZhSdV71mU

But I'm sure there are more serious/better interviews, this got blown up pretty badly a few years back.

Just because jason and frod didn't get a long towards the end of their time has nothing to do with Jason personally. People don't get a long all the time. Also I have a hard time believing this was that big of a deal, frod was on complexity for years and years, if he was that bad then I highly doubt he would've stuck around that long. This is nothing more than a silly dispute that frod is all butt hurt about.
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aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
August 01 2012 07:02 GMT
#176
And that is how you do a documentary...
Wahaha
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
August 01 2012 07:05 GMT
#177
Great documentary, this should be how it's done.
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CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
August 01 2012 07:06 GMT
#178
I actually really like that they included the bit where JLake says "3 months down the drain" when hearing that Trimaster got knocked out early in the NA WCS. It's brutal, but honest, and (sorry Live on Three), pretty no fluff. It was also pleasant to see JLake also give Trimaster some honest and inspiring words after.
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stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 07:09:48
August 01 2012 07:06 GMT
#179
On August 01 2012 15:52 Secret05 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 15:34 siii wrote:
Following the counter strike scene J.Lake might not be the nice guy he gives himself out to be, and everyone here seems to think. Big stars like fRoD went out and said really bad things about him, while he was still on the team.

I could only find one video on youtube made by hellspawn(the joke) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZhSdV71mU

But I'm sure there are more serious/better interviews, this got blown up pretty badly a few years back.

Just because jason and frod didn't get a long towards the end of their time has nothing to do with Jason personally. People don't get a long all the time. Also I have a hard time believing this was that big of a deal, frod was on complexity for years and years, if he was that bad then I highly doubt he would've stuck around that long. This is nothing more than a silly dispute that frod is all butt hurt about.


In addition, cs players are a lot more 'bm' than sc2 players. You have to consider the context of that interview. The cs scene was nowhere near as lucrative as the sc2 scene and there was a lot more player movement between clans and relationships that went sour. Whatever happened doesnt take away from any of the succeses both frod and complexity enjoyed together.
Zach426
Profile Joined February 2012
United States60 Posts
August 01 2012 07:06 GMT
#180
On August 01 2012 15:34 siii wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Following the counter strike scene J.Lake might not be the nice guy he gives himself out to be, and everyone here seems to think. Big stars like fRoD went out and said really bad things about him, while he was still on the team.

I could only find one video on youtube made by hellspawn(the joke) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZhSdV71mU

But I'm sure there are more serious/better interviews, this got blown up pretty badly a few years back.


While I will say that I know absolutely nothing the situation with fRoD, I will remind you that business, whether it be e-sports or otherwise, has always been and always will be a cut-throat place. The CEO's primary job is to make a profit and help the company grow. You'll never do this by being the nice guy all the time. Of course Jason Lake will put on the nice guy face in front of the camera, just like every single other CEO/team owner will. Behind the scenes you bet your ass tough decisons are made that are in the best interest of the company, while at the same time probably screwing someone else. While these decisions may very well be legal, they will not always be ethical. There in lies the nature of the beast.

Bottomline, and what I'm trying to get at with all this mumbo jumbo, is that nobody becomes a CEO or a head of a company by being the nice guy all the time. They get there by having great business sense, and knowing when to be a hardass, and when to be the good guy. I'm not trying to overly defend the guy, just don't be too quick to judge.
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