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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 01 2012 21:31 GMT
#1581
On August 02 2012 06:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:19 courtpanda wrote:
maybe azubu like violet?


Along with TOP if that post is correct.

That would be pretty sick.
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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
August 01 2012 21:42 GMT
#1582
On August 02 2012 06:19 courtpanda wrote:
maybe azubu like violet?

I hope not.. naniwa has this celeb shit, it's called caprice I believe.. that makes people around you crazy!
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
August 01 2012 21:50 GMT
#1583
On July 31 2012 06:21 Xietep wrote:
Idra predicted this happening. He also said that when it does, he's done in eSports, because no team will want him.

Well Idra is wrong, as he is in all matters regarding sc 2. Naniwa will proboably get a huge contract as hes currently, and have been the best or next best foreign SC2 player.
4649!!
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 22:20:19
August 01 2012 22:15 GMT
#1584
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:

Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.


Good that he admitted that some of the fault was his about being kicked out of the ESL league and off of MyM.

If Diginitas can offer the money, then Naniwa would probably go back there as he seemed to have a good relationship with them.

He's very money oriented, which isn't wrong per say, but it does come across as being too greedy.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
August 01 2012 22:25 GMT
#1585
Well as we don't know any numbers here, and the only idea about how big a salary may be are eg players, I don't think anyone can judge whether nani was just in his desire for more money, or if it was pure greed.

Either way really good episode and I feel like it did a lot for his relationship to the community, hopefully less people will hate on arguably the best foreigner now. Well I guess he'll join dignitas if they can come up with the money, can't wait to hear newmans perspective or even odis on this on the next episodes of their respective shows.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 22:26:56
August 01 2012 22:26 GMT
#1586
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:
Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.

He's such a bundle of contradictions.
Wins to spite the haters but still cares for the fans.
He could make an easy living of the community if only he was willing to play the villain.

Also this may be expected of him but players really need to stop with the 'all about money' answers.
They have plenty of sponsors to promote and that kind of talk encourages the wrong attitude among fan-base.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 01 2012 22:27 GMT
#1587
On August 02 2012 06:29 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:19 courtpanda wrote:
maybe azubu like violet?


Along with TOP if that post is correct.


Nice find. Although in Real Talk he said he will be teamless for a while and that he has an offer from one swedish companz who would send him to events. But actually that would be a start of a VERY sick team if that was true.


must be that supermarket
UniquE.
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada143 Posts
August 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#1588
On August 02 2012 07:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdJRmGWtik
Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.


Good that he admitted that some of the fault was his about being kicked out of the ESL league and off of MyM.

If Diginitas can offer the money, then Naniwa would probably go back there as he seemed to have a good relationship with them.

He's very money oriented, which isn't wrong per say, but it does come across as being too greedy.



I don't know why people criticize gamers for wanting money...We don't know the numbers but shit wouldn't you want more money when all you do is play this game upwards of 6-12 hours a day. You have to live somehow not sure why people think this is wrong. You obviously haven't seen what sports professionals make.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#1589
On August 02 2012 07:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdJRmGWtik
Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.


Good that he admitted that some of the fault was his about being kicked out of the ESL league and off of MyM.

If Diginitas can offer the money, then Naniwa would probably go back there as he seemed to have a good relationship with them.

He's very money oriented, which isn't wrong per say, but it does come across as being too greedy.

Very money oriented? :D I would be too if all I had to my name is a career that can disappear quickly and with limited options afterwards.

These people are spending their prime time playing games for other peoples entertainment. At least try to make some money off it.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 01 2012 22:29 GMT
#1590
On August 02 2012 07:25 Lorch wrote:
Well as we don't know any numbers here, and the only idea about how big a salary may be are eg players, I don't think anyone can judge whether nani was just in his desire for more money, or if it was pure greed.

Either way really good episode and I feel like it did a lot for his relationship to the community, hopefully less people will hate on arguably the best foreigner now. Well I guess he'll join dignitas if they can come up with the money, can't wait to hear newmans perspective or even odis on this on the next episodes of their respective shows.


Yeah actually, we dont know what was the difference. Maybe he was getting like 150 or 200 euros per month and the difference between Dignitas and Complexity was basically the difference between allowance and a real paycheck.

Yeah, the team he was talking about in the end was probably Dignitas, but we will see. Kinda dissapointed that JP didnt ask him, whether he would even consider joining Korean (Gom or KESPA - whatever) team if he was offered something like that.
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HelloSon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 01 2012 22:29 GMT
#1591
So uh, did he talk about SaSe on Real Talk?
yo
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
August 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#1592
On August 02 2012 07:29 HelloSon wrote:
So uh, did he talk about SaSe on Real Talk?

Yes, he did talk about SaSe.
coLCruncher fighting!
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 22:32:45
August 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#1593
On August 02 2012 07:25 Lorch wrote:
Well as we don't know any numbers here, and the only idea about how big a salary may be are eg players, I don't think anyone can judge whether nani was just in his desire for more money, or if it was pure greed.

Either way really good episode and I feel like it did a lot for his relationship to the community, hopefully less people will hate on arguably the best foreigner now. Well I guess he'll join dignitas if they can come up with the money, can't wait to hear newmans perspective or even odis on this on the next episodes of their respective shows.


Did you really listen to the Real Talk episode? He brings up money as a contributing factor consistently, "I have a few offers, but I don't want to rush into another team straight away...unless I get a really good offer, right now I have a few pretty good ones, but not perfect."

Also, consistent desire for more money = greed (to an extent).
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
thetotalcow
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden6 Posts
August 01 2012 22:33 GMT
#1594
its looks like he really wonts to go to TeamDignitas but they don't have money to pay someone like nani. I know 2GD was in DignitasNewman (hes a co funder) about salaries and signing player and he said that player in general wonted more money than they should be getting.
I'm a bit interested in what Swedish company who will pay for him, i might just be ROG Nordic, or maybe some sort of supermarket...
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 01 2012 22:52 GMT
#1595
I wish he shouldn't have left Dignitas. The black-yellow uniform, the dignitas-Naniwa name, and apparently his relationship with the team was pretty good. It was also when he was rising up quickly, so things seemed to be going well for him at that time.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
August 01 2012 23:19 GMT
#1596
So, according to gamespot EG tried to buy Naniwa from Quantic for some time, but when they failed to reach terms they went ahead and got suppy and are now out of the bidding. I wonder if Idra knew about that ? :D
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
August 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#1597
On August 02 2012 07:26 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:
Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.

He's such a bundle of contradictions.
Wins to spite the haters but still cares for the fans.
He could make an easy living of the community if only he was willing to play the villain.

Also this may be expected of him but players really need to stop with the 'all about money' answers.
They have plenty of sponsors to promote and that kind of talk encourages the wrong attitude among fan-base.


that was so good wp
invisible tetris level master
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
August 01 2012 23:33 GMT
#1598
On August 02 2012 07:31 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:25 Lorch wrote:
Well as we don't know any numbers here, and the only idea about how big a salary may be are eg players, I don't think anyone can judge whether nani was just in his desire for more money, or if it was pure greed.

Either way really good episode and I feel like it did a lot for his relationship to the community, hopefully less people will hate on arguably the best foreigner now. Well I guess he'll join dignitas if they can come up with the money, can't wait to hear newmans perspective or even odis on this on the next episodes of their respective shows.


Did you really listen to the Real Talk episode? He brings up money as a contributing factor consistently, "I have a few offers, but I don't want to rush into another team straight away...unless I get a really good offer, right now I have a few pretty good ones, but not perfect."

Also, consistent desire for more money = greed (to an extent).

He also does elaborates many times that a good offer = travel to events, good practice environment in korea (Which is EXPENSIVE).
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 01 2012 23:36 GMT
#1599
Don't think it would be a good move from Dignitas to sign him again, never good for a team to have the reputation to let their players look elsewhere and then sign them back if they don't find better.
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Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
August 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#1600
On August 02 2012 07:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdJRmGWtik
Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.


Good that he admitted that some of the fault was his about being kicked out of the ESL league and off of MyM.

If Diginitas can offer the money, then Naniwa would probably go back there as he seemed to have a good relationship with them.

He's very money oriented, which isn't wrong per say, but it does come across as being too greedy.


Being an adult/having to pay the rent does that to you . Did you hear the part where he said he would stay on the team for half the money? How many people with normal day jobs do you know that stay on their job when they can earn 3 times as much somewhere else doing exactly the same thing?
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