Naniwa leaves Quantic - Page 63

TeamLiquid: You won easily by a 3 – 0 score. Did you expect to win so easily?

Yes, my opponent was a foreigner, and one who was lacking in name value at that, so I expected to win.

You said that Welmu wasn't a famous player. How many foreigners are out there that you're worried about?

I'm only worried about NaNiwa, haha.

On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

On July 31 2012 21:07 stratmatt wrote:



Jeez, you must not watch very musch sc2 then considering his recent tournament failings. Oh yeah and ro8 code S is still ro8 code s. Its not even the semis. Too bad you missed out on some amazing season finishers the past 2 seasons.

On July 31 2012 21:31 Zarahtra wrote:

I agree with you, that I respect Naniwa a great deal for his dedication. That being said, he often is pretty arrogant, which being socially awkward or whatever name you put on it, he should still be able to realize it and avoid it if he wanted to.

That being said, in this case he seems to have avoided the drama, yet still gets 60 pages? :/ Well anyway nice to see them part of seemingly good terms.

On July 31 2012 21:03 stratmatt wrote:



There are hundreds of sc2 pros who want to the best at what they do, and they dont put down their opponents in bigtime matches when they lose like naniwa just did to johnnyrecco in tsl4. He has no respect for the game or for his competition and has proven this time and time again despite his determination to be the best at it. Not a good role model.

When I think about famous and respected Swedes, a lot of them are assholes

On July 31 2012 21:52 Vaftrudner wrote:

I think this might be the biggest difference culturally. I see a lot of Americans saying that players are "not good for esports" or "bad role models". To me, Naniwa doesn't represent Starcraft, nor esports, nor foreigners, nor Sweden, nor Quantic. He represents Naniwa. That's all he's interested in doing. Like synaptik said:

"lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare."

I agree with all of that. I still like Naniwa though. Why? Because he's a damn good, creative, smart and passionate player. He's fun to watch. In the same way, I respect Destiny a lot for his ideas on Zerg, he really innovated infestor usage in Zerg play. His bm and bullshit doesn't take away from that.

These ideas about marketing and branding are specifically very American. They do exist in Europe too, but not in the same way. When I think about famous and respected Swedes, a lot of them are assholes, and we just accept that. We're not looking for role models as much as we are looking for talent and passion. That passion becomes rage and bad manner in some people, and it doesn't matter to me.

I'm not trying to argue any kind of point here. I'm just attempting an explanation of why Naniwa doesn't clean up his act and why Swedes don't dislike him that much, by looking at cultural differences. I could also be completely wrong, it's hard to analyse one's own culture.

On July 31 2012 21:03 stratmatt wrote:



There are hundreds of sc2 pros who want to the best at what they do, and they dont put down their opponents in bigtime matches when they lose like naniwa just did to johnnyrecco in tsl4. He has no respect for the game or for his competition and has proven this time and time again despite his determination to be the best at it. Not a good role model.

On July 31 2012 21:34 Mozdk wrote:
Doubt it will be EG. Liquid is possible. But I think a Korean team is more likely.

On July 31 2012 22:06 whiteLotus wrote:


so you dont think it can be EG, but liquid is possible? LMAO. IF anything liquid is IMPOSIBLE, and EG possible.

On July 31 2012 22:10 TheSwamp wrote:


Liquid likes to acquire players who have not yet reached their full potential, and are not the biggest of names.

On July 31 2012 21:40 BBMorti wrote:

It only reaches 60 pages because of people like you who comes in and writes the same thing again and again in every thread about him.

On July 31 2012 22:15 Grampz wrote:
mouz nani!!!