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wraggy1234
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
July 31 2012 11:50 GMT
#1221
teamhopper. some people are shocked by him leaving Quantic.. not me.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 31 2012 11:50 GMT
#1222
On July 31 2012 20:48 BRaegO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.


I think what most people are trying to say is if you weren't Swedish, you'd probably not be defending him. It's not about how he acts, its about what he represents. Sweden. People need to look past where they are from and base their opinion on what they know. :D


His determination and I-don't-give-a-shit attitude to everything besides Starcraft reflects my views on swimming, which is why I support Naniwa. I'm sure there are some people who support him because he's Swedish, but I don't think that's the only reason people do.
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Province
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom314 Posts
July 31 2012 11:51 GMT
#1223
I've never liked Naniwa, but I hope he doesn't drop into obscurity if he doesn't get picked up by a major team. Keep fighting Naniwa!
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
July 31 2012 11:56 GMT
#1224
On July 31 2012 20:51 Province wrote:
I've never liked Naniwa, but I hope he doesn't drop into obscurity if he doesn't get picked up by a major team. Keep fighting Naniwa!

Pretty sure he is the only foreigner in code S atm and the only one to stay/reach ro8 in about 1 year, he can't really fall into obscurity yet.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 11:57:43
July 31 2012 11:57 GMT
#1225
--- Nuked ---
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
July 31 2012 12:02 GMT
#1226
Grubby.Naniwa
@followMVT
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 12:04:00
July 31 2012 12:03 GMT
#1227
On July 31 2012 20:57 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 20:48 BRaegO wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.


I think what most people are trying to say is if you weren't Swedish, you'd probably not be defending him. It's not about how he acts, its about what he represents. Sweden. People need to look past where they are from and base their opinion on what they know. :D

He acts like someone who wants to be the best at what he does and who doesn't really care who he pisses off to get there. That kind of determined attitude mightn't make for someone who'd be awesome to be around (I wouldn't know, and neither would anyone else in this thread) but it still has to be respected.

EDIT:

And note: I'm not Swedish. Go figure.



There are hundreds of sc2 pros who want to the best at what they do, and they dont put down their opponents in bigtime matches when they lose like naniwa just did to johnnyrecco in tsl4. He has no respect for the game or for his competition and has proven this time and time again despite his determination to be the best at it. Not a good role model.
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
July 31 2012 12:06 GMT
#1228
1.5$ on no team for 2 month, back to sweden, train, come back better, with win in tournament (and not only some Bo3 win in GSL)
1$ on quit programing after trying to play for "sub-top" team.
0.1$ on joining in a Korean team.
0 $ on being pick by EG.

this thread become hilarious
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 31 2012 12:06 GMT
#1229
On July 31 2012 21:03 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 20:57 Sated wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:48 BRaegO wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.


I think what most people are trying to say is if you weren't Swedish, you'd probably not be defending him. It's not about how he acts, its about what he represents. Sweden. People need to look past where they are from and base their opinion on what they know. :D

He acts like someone who wants to be the best at what he does and who doesn't really care who he pisses off to get there. That kind of determined attitude mightn't make for someone who'd be awesome to be around (I wouldn't know, and neither would anyone else in this thread) but it still has to be respected.

EDIT:

And note: I'm not Swedish. Go figure.



There are hundreds of sc2 pros who want to the best at what they do, and they dont put down their opponents in bigtime matches when they lose like naniwa just did to johnnyrecco in tsl4. He has no respect for the game or for his competition and has proven this time and time again despite his determination to be the best at it. Not a good role model.

this
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 31 2012 12:07 GMT
#1230
On July 31 2012 20:13 kimchikid wrote:
I hope he joins SK with MC or any korean team. Just hope it wont be EG, that would never be a good match.

Nani is the sole reason I still follow the SC2 scene, when he is out of a tournament, it kind of dies for me. Wish you good luck Nani!



Jeez, you must not watch very musch sc2 then considering his recent tournament failings. Oh yeah and ro8 code S is still ro8 code s. Its not even the semis. Too bad you missed out on some amazing season finishers the past 2 seasons.
Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 12:10:10
July 31 2012 12:09 GMT
#1231
SK is a good guess. They only sign champions and Naniwa definately is a champion.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
July 31 2012 12:09 GMT
#1232
On July 31 2012 21:07 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 20:13 kimchikid wrote:
I hope he joins SK with MC or any korean team. Just hope it wont be EG, that would never be a good match.

Nani is the sole reason I still follow the SC2 scene, when he is out of a tournament, it kind of dies for me. Wish you good luck Nani!



Jeez, you must not watch very musch sc2 then considering his recent tournament failings. Oh yeah and ro8 code S is still ro8 code s. Its not even the semis. Too bad you missed out on some amazing season finishers the past 2 seasons.

you're really stupid if you think ro8 GSL is something not to be impressed by.
DexLy
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden34 Posts
July 31 2012 12:11 GMT
#1233
stratmatt what is your opinion on Idra's behaviour? Is it as bad as naniwa or is he american so you have to defend him just like we defend naniwa? Just wondering
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
July 31 2012 12:12 GMT
#1234
On July 31 2012 21:06 zedrOne wrote:
win in tournament (and not only some Bo3 win in GSL)


GSL is the most prestigious SC2 tournament around by a longshot... ANY success there should be acclaimed highly.

Hope NaNiwA can find a team willing to foster him, foreign or Korean.
Forsti.henning
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany220 Posts
July 31 2012 12:13 GMT
#1235
LOL, he did it again ^^,
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
July 31 2012 12:13 GMT
#1236
seing last tweets, he definitly doenst have a plan.

i up to 2$ for the no team for 2 month.
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
July 31 2012 12:15 GMT
#1237
On July 31 2012 20:48 BRaegO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.


I think what most people are trying to say is if you weren't Swedish, you'd probably not be defending him. It's not about how he acts, its about what he represents. Sweden. People need to look past where they are from and base their opinion on what they know. :D


Well it is pretty hard to argue against that I argue for Naniwa because I am swedish. It is hard to stop being from Sweden.
I think Naniwa is an amazing player and although Naniwa is a little odd I like him regardless. Cause I think other people might find me "odd" to, and like Naniwa I am very competitive to my nature. Therefor I enjoy watching Naniwa play and can relate to his "problems". If this is because I come from Sweden? Dunno, maybe it is.

It is true that I like the success Sweden has within esport though, for sure.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2012 12:19 GMT
#1238
wow nani controversy thread is getting big and juicy haha :D
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stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 31 2012 12:26 GMT
#1239
On July 31 2012 21:11 DexLy wrote:
stratmatt what is your opinion on Idra's behaviour? Is it as bad as naniwa or is he american so you have to defend him just like we defend naniwa? Just wondering



tbqh honest ive never been a fan of idra and think he is mostly an ass to people. But I also realize his in-person behavior is different, and I've met both players in person. 1 guy was mingling with his fans signing autos and taking photos and another was shrugging them off and acting above anybody who tried to approach him. You guess who was who. also, guess which guy had a kid standing next to him during one of his match on the side stage with a sign calling him a loser? naniwa did. I was wondering why this guy would be such a dick to naniwa so i approached and asked to see what was up. he said he just got into sc2 and naniwa was his favorite player. he finally got a chance to meet him and naniwa didnt even open his mouth, just flicked his hand to tell him to go away. defend him all you want, but I already know what I need to know. when idra burns as many bridges as this guy has, I will be saying the same thing, so lets hope that never happens.
JimmyHollow
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom249 Posts
July 31 2012 12:26 GMT
#1240
Well SK dropped the CS team so they need to invest somewhere else, right ? SK.Naniwa ?!
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