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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 09 2012 20:50 GMT
#1481
Huge props to Shy for putting his best foot forward in a tough environment. It wasn't even a week ago that he was fielded in a BW Proleague match. I'm impressed that he can play both games at once at such a high level!
May the BeSt man win.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 21:07:32
July 09 2012 21:06 GMT
#1482
I think this whole thing is meant to be seen more like an exhibition and less as a competition. BW pros are behind the game we can all admit that. This kind of format where only the winner is named gives them a psychologically safe way to test their skill and gain some confidence and notoriety if they win. I like it and shows that there is a bond between the bw pros and sc2 pros that will only help the scene.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 09 2012 21:26 GMT
#1483
On July 10 2012 05:50 Djabanete wrote:
Huge props to Shy for putting his best foot forward in a tough environment. It wasn't even a week ago that he was fielded in a BW Proleague match. I'm impressed that he can play both games at once at such a high level!


You don't know PL's current format?

Each player has to rotate between each game, so sHy played BW couple of matches ago, so he played SC2 this weekend.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
July 09 2012 21:29 GMT
#1484
Are there vods?

User was warned for this post
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#1485
On July 10 2012 06:26 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 05:50 Djabanete wrote:
Huge props to Shy for putting his best foot forward in a tough environment. It wasn't even a week ago that he was fielded in a BW Proleague match. I'm impressed that he can play both games at once at such a high level!


You don't know PL's current format?

Each player has to rotate between each game, so sHy played BW couple of matches ago, so he played SC2 this weekend.

I did know that
My point is that it's impressive, considering this kind of requirement, that he won against full-time SC2 pros. I was trying to clarify to anyone who didn't know that this guy is still playing professional BW matches!
May the BeSt man win.
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
July 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#1486
I had a feeling this system would lead to a bullshit fan response/drama and BW/SC2 fans going at it. Wake me up when the OSL starts and we see what is what and who is who
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
July 09 2012 21:37 GMT
#1487
On July 10 2012 04:06 Xiphos wrote:
Lol @ all the butthurt fans trying to rationalize by consolidating themselves for this outcome.

Why is crap like this allowed in this thread but not in others? Every other time I saw someone use the word "butthurt" he was banned or warned pretty shortly after that

When is the OSL with half SC2/Kespa players going to be starting btw? Another month or so?
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
July 09 2012 21:40 GMT
#1488
On July 10 2012 04:45 Chytilova wrote:
So why is everyone assuming it's Ace and drawing conclusions from there? We don't know which Startale player it was. Wait until we have actual matches between them when money is on the line. Making any argument over this (especially when it isn't even clear who played, besides Shy of course) is beyond stupid.

Ace has a pretty unique way of playing compared to Parting or Squirtle.. also neither of those two would have looked so hesitant in the PvP match.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 09 2012 21:40 GMT
#1489
On July 10 2012 06:37 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 04:06 Xiphos wrote:
Lol @ all the butthurt fans trying to rationalize by consolidating themselves for this outcome.

Why is crap like this allowed in this thread but not in others? Every other time I saw someone use the word "butthurt" he was banned or warned pretty shortly after that

When is the OSL with half SC2/Kespa players going to be starting btw? Another month or so?


Well this OSL ends july 17nth or later (can't remember maybe it's 27'th I am thinking). I imagine next one starts in september imo.
When I think of something else, something will go here
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
July 09 2012 22:12 GMT
#1490
SHY!!!!! lol fuck yes, i remember when he played for OZ.

yeah if GSL didn't send mvp / mkp / someone from code S...... they were underestimating the kespa players. fuck yes kespa > gsl anyday.
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oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
July 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#1491
On July 10 2012 05:27 ragz_gt wrote:
Worked up over this is so dumb... a Code A level player's probability of lose against a High Master / GM player (which most KeSPA players are at the moment) in a BO3 is about 30% - 40%.

Yes, that's very true. It's just sad that many people trash on the BW pros or have ridiculous expectations. Losira is very good and was top KR GM, yet he is not even in Code A anymore. The skill of Code A is this high and many who have had Code S in the past and even GSL winners do not always stay in Code S.

The takeaway should be for people who have not seen much of the kespa players in SC2 that they are actually quite strong players and many of them will likely make good runs at Code A and beyond.
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slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
July 09 2012 22:28 GMT
#1492
On July 10 2012 06:06 takingbackoj wrote:
This kind of format where only the winner is named gives them a psychologically safe way to test their skill and gain some confidence and notoriety if they win. I like it and shows that there is a bond between the bw pros and sc2 pros that will only help the scene.


I do agree with you, except apparently it is taking away from Shy's win at the same time since nobody can decide whether his opponent was a scrub or maybe code S material. I don't mean that offensively, just basing it off of what I have read on these last few pages of comments.

Congrats to Shy, this will be a nice boost of confidence and momentum for him going into future matches
jaedong imba
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
July 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#1493
So we don't know who the players were?
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
July 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#1494
On July 10 2012 07:28 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 06:06 takingbackoj wrote:
This kind of format where only the winner is named gives them a psychologically safe way to test their skill and gain some confidence and notoriety if they win. I like it and shows that there is a bond between the bw pros and sc2 pros that will only help the scene.


I do agree with you, except apparently it is taking away from Shy's win at the same time since nobody can decide whether his opponent was a scrub or maybe code S material. I don't mean that offensively, just basing it off of what I have read on these last few pages of comments.

Congrats to Shy, this will be a nice boost of confidence and momentum for him going into future matches


We know for a fact that it was a Startale protoss that is Code A level or higher. That leaves us with Ace, Squirtle or Parting. All of which were Code S this season.
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emsy1984
Profile Joined July 2011
Slovakia28 Posts
July 09 2012 22:46 GMT
#1495
I think anyone who watched PL today will agree with me when I say that the gameplay of players in PL (mby except flash) and gameplay of Shy were on way different level. To me it looks like kespa sent one of the best (if not the best) players while Ace is (let's say) a mediocre code A player.

Obviously top players were scattered all around different other tournaments (hsc, ipl, ...) and obviously this is not necessarily a bad thing. As someone said before, it's a nice ego boost to kespa and i hope we'll see more non-anonymous ( = nonymous?) matches soon.
And so god told the creep: Thy shall go and spread the love
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 22:59:52
July 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#1496
On July 10 2012 07:44 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 07:28 slappy wrote:
On July 10 2012 06:06 takingbackoj wrote:
This kind of format where only the winner is named gives them a psychologically safe way to test their skill and gain some confidence and notoriety if they win. I like it and shows that there is a bond between the bw pros and sc2 pros that will only help the scene.


I do agree with you, except apparently it is taking away from Shy's win at the same time since nobody can decide whether his opponent was a scrub or maybe code S material. I don't mean that offensively, just basing it off of what I have read on these last few pages of comments.

Congrats to Shy, this will be a nice boost of confidence and momentum for him going into future matches


We know for a fact that it was a Startale protoss that is Code A level or higher. That leaves us with Ace, Squirtle or Parting. All of which were Code S this season.


ah kk thanks for filling me in. I know very little of the sc2 scene, but am slowly learning due to the kespa players transitioning and events like this

EDIT:

On July 10 2012 07:46 emsy1984 wrote:
I think anyone who watched PL today will agree with me when I say that the gameplay of players in PL (mby except flash) and gameplay of Shy were on way different level. To me it looks like kespa sent one of the best (if not the best) players while Ace is (let's say) a mediocre code A player.


wait... I was JUST told that all 3 possible candidates for Shy's opponent were code S this season, and the majority of the people posting are saying that it is most likely Ace (probably because he's the worst between the 3?) and that he is code A material... I can only guess at why this is the consensus of all the people who are in the dark.

Yes, Shy is one of the better Kespa sc2 players. Woonjin was knocked out of PL post season early last time so they got some extra practice time in, and he wasn't really on their starting line up last season, but he isn't the top player on the team let alone the top Kespa player.

It's comments like yours that are taking away from Shy's win. Give the man some props
jaedong imba
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 09 2012 22:52 GMT
#1497
On July 10 2012 07:46 emsy1984 wrote:
I think anyone who watched PL today will agree with me when I say that the gameplay of players in PL (mby except flash) and gameplay of Shy were on way different level. To me it looks like kespa sent one of the best (if not the best) players while Ace is (let's say) a mediocre code A player.

Obviously top players were scattered all around different other tournaments (hsc, ipl, ...) and obviously this is not necessarily a bad thing. As someone said before, it's a nice ego boost to kespa and i hope we'll see more non-anonymous ( = nonymous?) matches soon.


sHy best player now wtf?
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takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 23:12:20
July 09 2012 23:09 GMT
#1498
On July 10 2012 07:46 emsy1984 wrote:
I think anyone who watched PL today will agree with me when I say that the gameplay of players in PL (mby except flash) and gameplay of Shy were on way different level. To me it looks like kespa sent one of the best (if not the best) players while Ace is (let's say) a mediocre code A player.

Obviously top players were scattered all around different other tournaments (hsc, ipl, ...) and obviously this is not necessarily a bad thing. As someone said before, it's a nice ego boost to kespa and i hope we'll see more non-anonymous ( = nonymous?) matches soon.

I kind of disagree. I have tried to watch as many of the PL matches I can and I have seen some bad play but also some pretty decent play as well. I think it's more obvious that a lot of the KESPA players are progressing well and that there are a few good but inconsistent players already.

Edit: since good players are consistent I guess I should say that there are a few players capable of playing well already but they are inconsistent.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
July 09 2012 23:21 GMT
#1499
People take this way too seriously, this is a nice event to introduce kespa players into GSL, without pressure on players, in a relax environment.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
July 09 2012 23:23 GMT
#1500
On July 10 2012 08:21 Gevna wrote:
People take this way too seriously, this is a nice event to introduce kespa players into GSL, without pressure on players, in a relax environment.


I doubt the players feel that way
jaedong imba
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