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On July 10 2012 04:32 Aegeis wrote:
Vods anywhere?
Yes, its posted 3 times on the previous page, as well as op. If you spend atleast 3 seconds looking around, you'll find it easily.
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On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then.
I have to disagree with your guess... Maybe the practice partners and semi-pro's living in the houses were practicing Sc2. But I don't see any A team BW pro's taking time out of their BW practice schedule until it was 100% sure and announced that Sc2 was going to be in proleague.
But of course this is speculation. I'm obviously not claiming to know anything about how/what they practice.
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On July 10 2012 04:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. I have to disagree with your guess... Maybe the practice partners and semi-pro's living in the houses were practicing Sc2. But I don't see any A team BW pro's taking time out of their BW practice schedule until it was 100% sure and announced that Sc2 was going to be in proleague. But of course this is speculation. I'm obviously not claiming to know anything about how/what they practice.
You and I seems to have the same source.
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On July 10 2012 04:34 anrimayu wrote:Yes, its posted 3 times on the previous page, as well as op. If you spend atleast 3 seconds looking around, you'll find it easily.
Thanks babe 
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On July 10 2012 04:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. I have to disagree with your guess... Maybe the practice partners and semi-pro's living in the houses were practicing Sc2. But I don't see any A team BW pro's taking time out of their BW practice schedule until it was 100% sure and announced that Sc2 was going to be in proleague. But of course this is speculation. I'm obviously not claiming to know anything about how/what they practice.
Does 1 month here or there measn anything ? Most of them dont even know proper play yet, they didnt play it like some of you say for "many months". Who cares if 1 or 2 people did, most of them and a specially most notable players said they didnt play sc2 almost at all. You can even check their BW interviews BEFORE switch. They admitted they played SOME like 1-1.5 year ago and felt like there is no difference and they can easily pwn but Kespa didnt switch and everyone played BW and forgot about sc2 and things changed, metagame got thicker etc - Bisu interview on TL
So yea this 1 or 2 month they did when SC2 was still young does not really count.
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On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you!
So I guess every pro who has said they've only been practicing since the announcement of the hybrid league is lying.
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On July 10 2012 04:40 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. I have to disagree with your guess... Maybe the practice partners and semi-pro's living in the houses were practicing Sc2. But I don't see any A team BW pro's taking time out of their BW practice schedule until it was 100% sure and announced that Sc2 was going to be in proleague. But of course this is speculation. I'm obviously not claiming to know anything about how/what they practice. Does 1 month here or there measn anything ? Most of them dont even know proper play yet, they didnt play it like some of you say for "many months". Who cares if 1 or 2 people did, most of them and a specially most notable players said they didnt play sc2 almost at all. You can even check their BW interviews BEFORE switch. They admitted they played SOME like 1-1.5 year ago and felt like there is no difference and they can easily pwn but Kespa didnt switch and everyone played BW and forgot about sc2 and things changed, metagame got thicker etc - Bisu interview on TL So yea this 1 or 2 month they did when SC2 was still young does not really count.
O.o you know I was arguing for the same thing as you right? So I'm just going to assume your arguments and points are just directed at the guy I was quoting...
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So why is everyone assuming it's Ace and drawing conclusions from there? We don't know which Startale player it was. Wait until we have actual matches between them when money is on the line. Making any argument over this (especially when it isn't even clear who played, besides Shy of course) is beyond stupid.
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On July 10 2012 04:43 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:40 bgx wrote:On July 10 2012 04:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. I have to disagree with your guess... Maybe the practice partners and semi-pro's living in the houses were practicing Sc2. But I don't see any A team BW pro's taking time out of their BW practice schedule until it was 100% sure and announced that Sc2 was going to be in proleague. But of course this is speculation. I'm obviously not claiming to know anything about how/what they practice. Does 1 month here or there measn anything ? Most of them dont even know proper play yet, they didnt play it like some of you say for "many months". Who cares if 1 or 2 people did, most of them and a specially most notable players said they didnt play sc2 almost at all. You can even check their BW interviews BEFORE switch. They admitted they played SOME like 1-1.5 year ago and felt like there is no difference and they can easily pwn but Kespa didnt switch and everyone played BW and forgot about sc2 and things changed, metagame got thicker etc - Bisu interview on TL So yea this 1 or 2 month they did when SC2 was still young does not really count. O.o you know I was arguing for the same thing as you right? So I'm just going to assume your arguments and points are just directed at the guy I was quoting...
Ye sorry i was targeting batch and naysayers ;p
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On July 10 2012 04:47 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:43 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 04:40 bgx wrote:On July 10 2012 04:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. I have to disagree with your guess... Maybe the practice partners and semi-pro's living in the houses were practicing Sc2. But I don't see any A team BW pro's taking time out of their BW practice schedule until it was 100% sure and announced that Sc2 was going to be in proleague. But of course this is speculation. I'm obviously not claiming to know anything about how/what they practice. Does 1 month here or there measn anything ? Most of them dont even know proper play yet, they didnt play it like some of you say for "many months". Who cares if 1 or 2 people did, most of them and a specially most notable players said they didnt play sc2 almost at all. You can even check their BW interviews BEFORE switch. They admitted they played SOME like 1-1.5 year ago and felt like there is no difference and they can easily pwn but Kespa didnt switch and everyone played BW and forgot about sc2 and things changed, metagame got thicker etc - Bisu interview on TL So yea this 1 or 2 month they did when SC2 was still young does not really count. O.o you know I was arguing for the same thing as you right? So I'm just going to assume your arguments and points are just directed at the guy I was quoting... Ye sorry i was targeting batch and naysayers ;p
Haha no worries, I kind of thought so :D
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On July 10 2012 04:24 Emperor_Earth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:19 humanimal wrote:On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. IDK, maybe it has something to do with the fact that they weren't allowed to play sc2 during the official practice hours? Obviously you have people like Flash and Stork who practiced in their own free time, but compared to the hours they put into BW? That's like nothing. They might have dabbled in it earlier, but haven't committed to truly practicing until sc2 was introduced to proleague. And even then with the hybrid format, it's not pure sc2 practice. You should be more informed before you post. The only time FlaSh played sc2 before the switchover was announced was immediately after his surgery. He said it himself that he wasn't interested in anything but BW and he was not allowed to practice BW or even use his injured hand/wrist.
You realize that my point was basically that they really haven't practiced that long and not that they have been playing it for longer right? Don't see why you felt the need to argue with me when we have the same point.... maybe you should learn to read more accurately.
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On July 10 2012 04:41 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So I guess every pro who has said they've only been practicing since the announcement of the hybrid league is lying.
Yeah I think there's a huge difference between playing SC2 and practicing it. You can play games casually but can't really practice casually.
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On July 10 2012 05:05 Dakure wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 04:41 setzer wrote:On July 10 2012 03:44 Batch wrote:On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote:
Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! So I guess every pro who has said they've only been practicing since the announcement of the hybrid league is lying. Yeah I think there's a huge difference between playing SC2 and practicing it. You can play games casually but can't really practice casually.
Except they didn't just deny practising it... they completely denied playing it(Except a couple who said they tried it a bit when it first came out and Flash during his recovery. Both of which count for jack shit) So by claiming they played it casually you're still calling them liars, and claiming to know how they spend their spare time....
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Lol this is so funny how big of a deal everyone is making over this, just read the last 4 pages of comments and I have a huge headache.
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3-4 months is all you really need to master the protoss deathball mechanics. im suprised it would take kespsa players that long to get to gm with protoss, i would have thought it would take them maybe 3 days.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On July 10 2012 05:14 artosismermaid wrote:
3-4 months is all you really need to master the protoss deathball mechanics. im suprised it would take kespsa players that long to get to gm with protoss, i would have thought it would take them maybe 3 days.
Your post is bad... and you should feel bad...
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Worked up over this is so dumb... a Code A level player's probability of lose against a High Master / GM player (which most KeSPA players are at the moment) in a BO3 is about 30% - 40%.
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when OSL starts then you can see what is up. im going with gsl players since they have much much more experience.
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On July 10 2012 05:40 aintz wrote:
when OSL starts then you can see what is up. im going with gsl players since they have much much more experience.
Yeah, I dunno, I expected the Kespa players to get to code a level pretty quickly. Im not really going to get too worked up about sHy beating a code A terran (who really, really made some bad decisions in his games) and Ace (i think it was ace right?)
It's going to be interesting to see how kespa players match up with the GSL titans (mkp, mvp, nestea, drg, mc) etc
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