EPTKeSPA vs GSL players cross-match - Page 73
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
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raser
Norway301 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote: Squirtle got owned by a Kespa player who just started playing for a few weeks. This is embarrassing. any source to this beeing squirtle? | ||
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Batch
Sweden692 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:59 NoGasfOu wrote: Ace barely lost to a Kespa player who has played SC2 for a long time. This is not embarrassing. I fixed it for you! | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Obviously there is not a 100% direct correlation between sc1 and sc2 skill but for the most part there is a decent one. Mvp being the most recently accomplished sc1 player to switch over and being the best sc2 player to date. To expect the more talented players from sc1 to not be able to perform just as well, if not better than the current sc2 players in due time is silly. What made mvp such a monster at this game? His skill from his previous game. | ||
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
low tier GSL players vs probably the best of the best of Kespa players fightiiinnngg! | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:36 NoGasfOu wrote: "GSL players are gonna OWN, RAPE, MURDER and EMBARRASS Kespa players..." Oh, never mind...It's the other way around, apparently. We don't know the name of the players... You know, E-sports federation contains GSL players but is not them. Oh, and "embarrass" ? Wasn't the point. It was more like "favoring GSL players" when people thought it would be surely this kind, but since it includes E-sports federation players, you can't be sure. I think you're overly fanatic. I enjoy discussing with BW fans, but not with blind fanatics. (And i do not even include those who say "BW > SC2" in the fanatics wagon, it's their right to do so). Please, be a little more tempered... , you're taking credit off BW fans that don't deserve this... | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
and it is to be expected. they barely have any experience. Just take a look at proleague games, its quite obvious they are just behind. The more drawn out the game, the worse it will be for them | ||
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Batch
Sweden692 Posts
On July 10 2012 03:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote: So 3-4 months of practising(While still having to practice another game) is considered a long time now? Hmm, good to know! I agree its not that embarrassing Kespa players are obviously great RTS players, and if rumours are true most are in GM. So losing a PvP to a GM level Korean isn't that bad... Still kind of surprised to see Kespa players win though... Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
2) We've already seen players like Hyun and ForGG in the GSL for months now. It's hilarious though how people take whatever tiny tiny scrap of evidence they can get to support what they want to believe (ffs we don't even know who played) | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
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PatouPower
Canada1119 Posts
On July 10 2012 03:56 iky43210 wrote: whats the point of these arguments, we all know kespa players are going to be dominated comes OSL. This thread is reminding me a ton of pre-MLG korean vs foreigner talk and hype. People kept on talking about foreigners can compete and is on par (with often referrals to TSL 3(?)) and proceed to get stomp on the first MLG. and it is to be expected. they barely have any experience. Just take a look at proleague games, its quite obvious they are just behind. The more drawn out the game, the worse it will be for them I love how everyone is a fortune teller and obviously know what's going to happen in the future. People said that KeSPA players were going to get owned in the cross match and that only top players would be able to compete. Well, shy isn't the best BW player at the moment and he still deserved his wins today (yesterday). It doesn't matter if his opponent was code A or code S, the difference between the two isn't that even that noticeable (you often see players falling to code a, then code b, then coming back to code s; both are really hard leagues to play in). Plus, kespa players have a better practice regiment, particularly if they can practice in advance for specific matches. The kespa players we saw yesterday were not the best, and they were kespa players that practice both BW and SC2 full time. I agree that comparing both type of players at the moment is a bit silly, but I also hate when people underestimate the players and say that one side or the other are obviously going to get owned because most of the time they are wrong. The only statistics we have at the moment is an estimate about how much time they have played SC2 semi-seriously, but we don't know their practice regiment, the time split (is it 50% BW 50% SC2?) or anything behind the scenes. Of course GSL players have a better chance to win since they have been playing the game for far longer, but I don't think it's that much higher. KeSPA players have a reputation to honor and are used to really hard work. There are expectations for them to own faces and they will try their harder to do so. | ||
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humanimal
United States151 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote: Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. IDK, maybe it has something to do with the fact that they weren't allowed to play sc2 during the official practice hours? Obviously you have people like Flash and Stork who practiced in their own free time, but compared to the hours they put into BW? That's like nothing. They might have dabbled in it earlier, but haven't committed to truly practicing until sc2 was introduced to proleague. And even then with the hybrid format, it's not pure sc2 practice. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:06 Batch wrote: Why do you think sHy only has been practicing for 3-4 months? My guess is that a lot of the BW pros have been preparing for this for much longer time. They knew the switch eventually would come and not preparing would be kind of stupid. I was also suprised a Kespa player won, but the avarage NA pro also takes down GSL stars every now and then. Unlikely, practicing BW for 10+ hours a day doesn't leave much time to play (and probably energy) SC2. Also, in the case of some teams the computers were only recently upgraded to be better able to handle SC2. With BW pros having BW to focus on it's a safe bet that few, if any, were practicing SC2 any more than perhaps an hour here or there every once in a while. Being a KeSPA BW pro was a full time job, and then some. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:19 humanimal wrote: IDK, maybe it has something to do with the fact that they weren't allowed to play sc2 during the official practice hours? Obviously you have people like Flash and Stork who practiced in their own free time, but compared to the hours they put into BW? That's like nothing. They might have dabbled in it earlier, but haven't committed to truly practicing until sc2 was introduced to proleague. And even then with the hybrid format, it's not pure sc2 practice. They have only tried it after being eliminated from the last ProLeague while still practicing BW for the new season seriously. But after they gotten the news that SC2 will be added, they practiced it more. So I would say 6 Month at the MOST. | ||
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:19 humanimal wrote: IDK, maybe it has something to do with the fact that they weren't allowed to play sc2 during the official practice hours? Obviously you have people like Flash and Stork who practiced in their own free time, but compared to the hours they put into BW? That's like nothing. They might have dabbled in it earlier, but haven't committed to truly practicing until sc2 was introduced to proleague. And even then with the hybrid format, it's not pure sc2 practice. You should be more informed before you post. The only time FlaSh played sc2 before the switchover was announced was immediately after his surgery. He said it himself that he wasn't interested in anything but BW and he was not allowed to practice BW or even use his injured hand/wrist. | ||
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
sHy 2-1 in Match 3. idk who the Terran was though. On July 10 2012 04:19 humanimal wrote: IDK, maybe it has something to do with the fact that they weren't allowed to play sc2 during the official practice hours? Obviously you have people like Flash and Stork who practiced in their own free time, but compared to the hours they put into BW? That's like nothing. They might have dabbled in it earlier, but haven't committed to truly practicing until sc2 was introduced to proleague. And even then with the hybrid format, it's not pure sc2 practice. The only time FlaSh played sc2 before the switchover was announced was immediately after his surgery. He said it himself that he wasn't interested in anything but BW and he was not allowed to practice BW or even use his injured hand/wrist. | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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