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KeSPA vs GSL players cross-match - Page 71

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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
July 09 2012 14:35 GMT
#1401
On July 09 2012 23:34 Michaels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:33 ROOTT1 wrote:
did this happen yet? if so wat were the scores?


kespa won, link to VoDs is on this page


yea watching them atm, dissapointing result tbh =/
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Kryt0s
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany209 Posts
July 09 2012 14:37 GMT
#1402
On July 09 2012 23:35 InMotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:14 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 09 2012 23:09 phil.ipp wrote:
such a useless event,

random code A protoss against a kespa protoss ... wow really interesting.

but pssst no one is allowed to know their names ..


Oh shush..If you've nothing nice to say it's better to just keep quiet >_>


That's such a useless thing to say. Criticism isn't always "nice" but it's needed. It was a stupid event lol.

"It was a stupid event" is not constructive criticism. It is just your opinion, which does not mean a lot to others, so keep it to yourself.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden889 Posts
July 09 2012 14:42 GMT
#1403
Pretty cool event, kespa players are improving a lot for sure, that protoss played pretty good, and the zerg had good mechanics but the strategy was dodgy and the no transition typical for a player with less experience with the game.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 09 2012 14:50 GMT
#1404
Disappointing.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 09 2012 14:51 GMT
#1405
oh man flash will destroy if this outcome is the future of gsl vs kespa
banelings
Kryt0s
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany209 Posts
July 09 2012 14:51 GMT
#1406
On July 09 2012 23:51 leo23 wrote:
oh man flash will destroy if this outcome is the future of gsl vs kespa

^This
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 09 2012 14:54 GMT
#1407
Who played in the match?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 14:57:05
July 09 2012 14:55 GMT
#1408
lmao shy isnt even the best kespa player. gj kespa. they should reveal everybody id after the tournament. makes it more interesting. nothing is interesting when you dont know anything about the players
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 09 2012 14:56 GMT
#1409
Well, a couple games do not show much. Remember MVP lost to Naama and monchi this weekend. can we claim mid tier EU is better than code S GSL? I think once OSL has the two sides meet, we will get a better idea as to where players stand.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
July 09 2012 14:56 GMT
#1410
On July 09 2012 23:54 MCDayC wrote:
Who played in the match?


woongjin stars Shy beat an unknown gsl terran, 2-1
someone strongly suspected to be startale Ace beat a kespa zerg (some people guess effort but noone knows) 2-0
Then Shy beat the protoss strongly suspected to be ace 2-1
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 15:00:44
July 09 2012 14:59 GMT
#1411
On July 09 2012 23:55 Diizzy wrote:
lmao shy isnt even the best kespa player. gj kespa. they should reveal everybody id after the tournament. makes it more interesting. nothing is interesting when you dont know anything about the players


I can sort of understand them not revealing losers id if there isn't a prize pool. Otherwise there would have been no incentive for the gsl players to compete. If they win people go "oh look kespa players suck" and they gain nothing, if they lose then people think that the GSL player sucks, they lose again.

I think it was just a way of lowering the stakes for the players involved so if someone lost it wouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Although now that the Kespa players have shown that at least some of them can play on a decent level it might be different.

Meant to edit not quote >.<
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 09 2012 15:01 GMT
#1412
On July 09 2012 23:56 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:54 MCDayC wrote:
Who played in the match?


woongjin stars Shy beat an unknown gsl terran, 2-1
someone strongly suspected to be startale Ace beat a kespa zerg (some people guess effort but noone knows) 2-0
Then Shy beat the protoss strongly suspected to be ace 2-1

Thanks. I'm so confused, how did people not know Ace's name?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 15:07:53
July 09 2012 15:05 GMT
#1413
On July 09 2012 23:51 leo23 wrote:
oh man flash will destroy if this outcome is the future of gsl vs kespa


I would agree with you. If it was the future of GSL vs KeSPA. But I wouldn't think so. Though I don't doubt at all that Flash will do very well in SC2, i would not base my opinions on this showmatch.

As I've already said, i think we can barely learn anything from this event, where a good BW pro (but not great, based on TLPD BW) beat 2 - 1 a E-sports federation protoss from Startale. It is assumed to be AcE, which is a very bad PvPer, but it could very well be Trickster, which has made nothing since getting knocked out of Code A in the first round back in GSL October. (I doubt it's him, but since there's no official statement, i wouldn't be 100% sure)

So I wouldn't be so affirmative, and rather wait wisely for this "future" to happen, because I feel it seems very unpredictable at the moment.

Don't worry, Flash is still Flash, and given enough practice, he should live up to his name.

EDIT : Seen after posting, but also consider "this"


On July 09 2012 23:56 vthree wrote:
Well, a couple games do not show much. Remember MVP lost to Naama and monchi this weekend. can we claim mid tier EU is better than code S GSL? I think once OSL has the two sides meet, we will get a better idea as to where players stand.

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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 15:11:53
July 09 2012 15:09 GMT
#1414
Hey, I heard a rumor that the GSL Terran was Taeja since someone mentioned that it was a Liquid Terran. I didn't watch the matches live or read much of the LR (but I did skim through the vods). Can anyone confirm? Also, I heard that it's strongly suggested that the GSL Protoss was Ace.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 09 2012 15:10 GMT
#1415
On July 10 2012 00:01 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:56 killerdog wrote:
On July 09 2012 23:54 MCDayC wrote:
Who played in the match?


woongjin stars Shy beat an unknown gsl terran, 2-1
someone strongly suspected to be startale Ace beat a kespa zerg (some people guess effort but noone knows) 2-0
Then Shy beat the protoss strongly suspected to be ace 2-1

Thanks. I'm so confused, how did people not know Ace's name?
They used accounts named "PlayerA", ..., "PlayerD" and kept the real identities of the players hidden. That was a decision by the Korean organizers of this event, only the winner to be revealed. I'm guessing it was a mutual Kespa-GOM agreement, as both sides have some pride to lose while the Kespa players are still catching up with SC2.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 09 2012 15:12 GMT
#1416
On July 10 2012 00:01 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:56 killerdog wrote:
On July 09 2012 23:54 MCDayC wrote:
Who played in the match?


woongjin stars Shy beat an unknown gsl terran, 2-1
someone strongly suspected to be startale Ace beat a kespa zerg (some people guess effort but noone knows) 2-0
Then Shy beat the protoss strongly suspected to be ace 2-1

Thanks. I'm so confused, how did people not know Ace's name?


The accounts had names like PlayerA, PlayerB, etc.
They announced the winner's team after the first 2 games (so it's known the GSL player is a Startale player).
They announced Shy's name after he won.

So on one knows if the GSL Protoss is Ace. We dont even know if his mainrace is Protoss (though it can be assumed). Or what his achievements are (some people claim they said "on a GSTL team is enough" on stream others claim "at least Code A").
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
July 09 2012 15:16 GMT
#1417
On July 10 2012 00:12 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 00:01 MCDayC wrote:
On July 09 2012 23:56 killerdog wrote:
On July 09 2012 23:54 MCDayC wrote:
Who played in the match?


woongjin stars Shy beat an unknown gsl terran, 2-1
someone strongly suspected to be startale Ace beat a kespa zerg (some people guess effort but noone knows) 2-0
Then Shy beat the protoss strongly suspected to be ace 2-1

Thanks. I'm so confused, how did people not know Ace's name?


The accounts had names like PlayerA, PlayerB, etc.
They announced the winner's team after the first 2 games (so it's known the GSL player is a Startale player).
They announced Shy's name after he won.

So on one knows if the GSL Protoss is Ace. We dont even know if his mainrace is Protoss (though it can be assumed). Or what his achievements are (some people claim they said "on a GSTL team is enough" on stream others claim "at least Code A").


That's no claim: Khaldor clearly said that the Protoss player was "at least code A material". Now that doesn't mean he IS in code A at least, that mean his overall level is at least of a code A player. Anyone who watches GSL regularly will know that earning a spot through the code B qualifier is sometimes even more difficult than maintaining code A spot.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 09 2012 15:22 GMT
#1418
I called that it was Shy to my mate xD Glad i was proven right xD
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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 09 2012 15:24 GMT
#1419
On July 09 2012 23:35 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:34 Michaels wrote:
On July 09 2012 23:33 ROOTT1 wrote:
did this happen yet? if so wat were the scores?


kespa won, link to VoDs is on this page


yea watching them atm, dissapointing result tbh =/


why is it disappointing? If the results mean anything, they mean that we're gonna continue seeing an increase in the skill cap of this game as the superstars get more acquainted to sc2.
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phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
July 09 2012 15:28 GMT
#1420
why should a win from shy over ace mean that the skillcap will rise?

Ace is not even near the top players right now
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