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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:54 Sandermatt wrote: What does "he is good enough to be in Code A or better" mean? Probably "I would not be surprised if he is in Code A or, if he is not in Code A, qualifies in Code A in near future". | ||
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moochu
Australia374 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:11 Juliette wrote: 2-1 shy vs gsl terran, 2-0 ace vs kespa zerg, 2-1 shy vs ace sorry i didnt have the stream open till the end of match 1 set 3 edit: they didn't confirm ace tho Yep, i'd like an official statement to confirm that it was AcE... | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:10 Ragnarork wrote: I feel the same. But it might be too hard for BW elitism to be tolerant, and for SC2 arrogance to respect its elder. It is a bit hard when there are posts like the elephant one where people said they'd win Code S in their first month(Such as those who though Forgg would win it easy after 3-6 months of practice). I want the Kespa players to get good as fast as possible but anyone who looks at it objectively would have to admit that at best there are 1-2 Kespa players who could be in code S and stay there(I feel I'm being generous with that too) | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:13 JustPassingBy wrote: Probably "I would not be surprised if he is in Code A or, if he is not in Code A, qualifies in Code A in near future". Khaldor said the GSL players are definitely at least Code A and "or better" implies recent Code S experience. Add in the playstyle and we have a strong case for AcE. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:17 mrtomjones wrote: It is a bit hard when there are posts like the elephant one where people said they'd win Code S in their first month(Such as those who though Forgg would win it easy after 3-6 months of practice). I want the Kespa players to get good as fast as possible but anyone who looks at it objectively would have to admit that at best there are 1-2 Kespa players who could be in code S and stay there(I feel I'm being generous with that too) I'm tired of this misundersdtanding. At the time when the Elephant in the Room was written, it was perfectly reasonnable. Obiously, one year later it's a bit harder. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:17 mrtomjones wrote: It is a bit hard when there are posts like the elephant one where people said they'd win Code S in their first month(Such as those who though Forgg would win it easy after 3-6 months of practice). I want the Kespa players to get good as fast as possible but anyone who looks at it objectively would have to admit that at best there are 1-2 Kespa players who could be in code S and stay there(I feel I'm being generous with that too) I wouldn't say Code S, but Code A could be possible. Still, this showmatch is one BW pros (and though I know quite little about BW aside from the big names, sHy isn't the best one...) against a quite good SC2 pro, but terrible in this match-up. There's not much to get out of this, just that the skill gap may not be as wide as we may think, but still exists... And this was a showmatch. It wasn't like a tournament where you get to know your opponent at least one week prior to the match... | ||
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parisisokay
46 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:06 Yello wrote: Exactly my thoughts. Sadly the voice of the reasonable is not as loud as the voice of the blind fanboys not true at all. broodwar will be dead in 2 weeks. loving broodwar just for its history is the sc2 arrogance you are talking about. imagine they ban your game in a few days from professional esports to nothing. sc2 may be a good game (maybe even the best game ever, i dont know) but it has nothing to deal with the fact that we broodwar fans feel sad and cheated that "our players" are forced to play it instead of our game. you may say this is an old discussion but it never become less true. | ||
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Goetzinho ftw
Germany115 Posts
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:31 Goetzinho ftw wrote: streamlink?!... It finished quite a while ago. It was on GOMTV's Twitch account though. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
The account http://twitch.com/GOMTV seems to have listing of stream recordings disabled.  | ||
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moochu
Australia374 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:26 Ragnarork wrote: I wouldn't say Code S, but Code A could be possible. Still, this showmatch is one BW pros (and though I know quite little about BW aside from the big names, sHy isn't the best one...) against a quite good SC2 pro, but terrible in this match-up. There's not much to get out of this, just that the skill gap may not be as wide as we may think, but still exists... And this was a showmatch. It wasn't like a tournament where you get to know your opponent at least one week prior to the match... Whilst his record isn't outstanding sHy has shown he can play all styles, standard games, creative plays and strong micro/decent macro play. Had he been placed on a stronger team (no hate against oz, fav team) I think he'd be a lot further along today, but he's still young and has a bright future. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:30 parisisokay wrote: No it isn't.not true at all. broodwar will be dead in 2 weeks. loving broodwar just for its history is the sc2 arrogance you are talking about. imagine they ban your game in a few days from professional esports to nothing. sc2 may be a good game (maybe even the best game ever, i dont know) but it has nothing to deal with the fact that we broodwar fans feel sad and cheated that "our players" are forced to play it instead of our game. you may say this is an old discussion but it never become less true. Someone new to the scene can love bw only for it's history, for he never experienced it. (not making myself better or quoted person new..) I can understand how you feel, but let's not see things as black and white atm. There is a change going on, but don't act like a person on one/both side(s) is responsible for it or constantly rub in your own grief. Not everyone is emotionally bound to bw as you are. (no disrespect intended) | ||
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ABear
United States161 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:38 Proseat wrote: Where can I watch this if I missed it because of work? The account http://twitch.com/GOMTV seems to have listing of stream recordings disabled. I think you're SOL for watching the Khaldor re-cast since gom has video recordings disabled. But you should be able to find the korean commentary online somewhere. | ||
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parisisokay
46 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:46 Yorbon wrote: No it isn't. Someone new to the scene can love bw only for it's history, for he never experienced it. (not making myself better or quoted person new..) I can understand how you feel, but let's not see things as black and white atm. There is a change going on, but don't act like a person on one/both side(s) is responsible for it or constantly rub in your own grief. Not everyone is emotionally bound to bw as you are. (no disrespect intended) No i don't. i dont know whats going on in this forum but i realized that there is a "new respect" in between those two scenes. but im not interested in talking about those scenes or anything similar. and im not interested in pointing out differences between the games or people who like it. i dont make anyone here responsible for what is happening in korean esports. not at all. i just say my game dies, you don't know how i feel and please please please stop stop stop advising me what i have to do or not and please please please stop stop stop laying your hand on my shoulder and say life goes on. yes i know that. but it has nothing to deal with what i tried to say. it is NOT a bw/sc2 discussion. it is a bw is dying statement and i feel sad and betrayed and angry and i dont want to hear anything of bw fanatics are stupid because blabla. then you are thinking black and white (while i only think black (or white, what ever broodwar is)). | ||
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InMotion
Canada110 Posts
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Kryt0s
Germany209 Posts
On July 09 2012 21:59 InMotion wrote: Is there a results page or what? KeSPA won. | ||
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reisada
183 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On July 09 2012 22:07 reisada wrote: flash played? No, only a protoss and a zerg played for Kespa's team. | ||
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