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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1321
Thanks to Khaldor for restream + commentary!!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1322
On July 09 2012 20:54 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:52 seansye wrote:
This is interesting. Woongjin always chooses Soulkey as their Ace player so does that mean Soulkey > Shy which also might imply that if Soulkey is better than Shy then theres a lot of Kespa players that can seriously compete with GSL players. Just an implication though based on Shy winning and Soulkey always being choosed as Ace.


SoulKey is regarded as one of the best SC2 players. In one of his PL interviews he mentioned how he was disappointed that he played poorly at MLG. He actually never practiced ultra+ling+infestor style, but after seeing Stephano play right before his match he was inspired and excited to try it out. He said it was harder than he thought it'd be. Also, Flash looked good during that tournament so no real shame there.


That match up at MLG was actually incredible I was on the edge of my seat for virtually all of it.

Granted I was in the front row with 2 super stoked BW fans sitting next to me but still that series was by far the best of the tournament at least from what they showed us on the main stage. Flash v Stork and Flash v Bisu was very underwhelming by comparison.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1323
On July 09 2012 20:55 Clefairy wrote:
As soon as Ryu Won goes to Woongjin, MMA starts slumping and Shy beats GSL players!


Ryu Won is a miracle worker
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1324
On July 09 2012 20:55 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:52 bokchoi wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:50 figq wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:48 bokchoi wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:48 WigglingSquid wrote:
Oh, please, KeSPA/OGN/whatever. Give us proper English broadcasts in the future, not just voice dubbing of the same production. I'm giving you money for that. T_______T


You're actually not giving any money to KeSPA or OGN.

He means he would. He prefers to pay but get decent coverage.


Well seeing as this was put on by GOM he's still looking to the pay the wrong people

Heh yeah. Which reminds me - who were these casters?? And also, I never thought about that, but how good are the OGN casters in SC2 for the Proleague? Because the BW casters also have 2 years to catch up with, compared to experienced SC2 casters.


The SC2 casters are just the BW casters. However, they have received coaching and information from GOM-affiliated teams and players to help improve their casting and game knowledge. They are also said to be actively playing themselves.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1325
On July 09 2012 20:53 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:52 jellyjello wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:48 lichter wrote:
According to Khaldor the ST toss was "Code A or higher", according to the casters


Korean casters doesn't know who the players were. Gisado was speculating that the play style resembles reminds him of Ace.

I'm almost sure that it was two from ST and two from Woongjin though. So, the Terran is most likely Bomber.


It wasn't Bomber, he tweeted in rather annoyed fashion that it definitely wasn't him playing *(guess he wasn';t impressed? =p) and then turned on his stream to restream game 2 to prove it xD


LOL I hope it wasn't Bomber either. The micro looked terrible for someone like him. But there aren't that many Terrans who open up with two barracks. (MKP comes to mind, but micro is not him).

Korean chat is going nuts, btw. GSL'ers are looking pretty real bad now, especially from the eyes of BW fantatics.
Zerofinal
Profile Joined June 2012
Thailand136 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1326
i want result
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1327
Well, that's a start, for sure.

But still, a showmatch vs (P)AcE , which PvP isn't decent...

Hope they will show great games and skill when they'll apply for the GSL itself, and in the OSL.
LiquipediaWanderer
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1328
On July 09 2012 20:56 Klogon wrote:
i gotta admit, I came back to this thread to read it for the lulz.

Its all for eleFUNt.
Stork[gm]
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1329
Neither Gom or Kespa wants to send out good players at this point. For one thing, having one of their premium players going down would leave them pretty embarrassed. It would also steal the thunder from the upcoming OSL. I doubt we will see any player qualified for the OSL in these crossmatches.
Zerofinal
Profile Joined June 2012
Thailand136 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1330
can anyone tell me about that
Clafou
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium921 Posts
July 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#1331
On July 09 2012 20:57 Zerofinal wrote:
i want result



KeSPA won.
Hyperiok
Profile Joined August 2011
England20 Posts
July 09 2012 11:58 GMT
#1332
I think putting out Code A players was a good choice if this will be repeated weekly. If your Code A GSL players can smash the BW players then there's no point sending out top tier Code S players. But if, and we just saw this happen, some BW players can beat your Code A players then next week you can start to send out stronger players and still make sure the games are fairly even.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 09 2012 11:58 GMT
#1333
On July 09 2012 20:54 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:51 Gosi wrote:
Why are people whining on OGN/KeSPA when it's GOM who put all this together and they are the one streaming this. :s



Because they dumb.

As far as Kespa vs Gom, unfortunately the Gom players were far from their best. I think I said way back when this was announced, but this hasn't decided anything except that Kespa players can compete with the lower end of Gom players. Since Gom didn't put their best out (and since I only watch the "famous" BW players playing SC2 in proleague I dunno if they were best) all this does is add more fuel to the "BW PLAYERS GONNA GET YOU" vs "WAIT UNTIL THEY PLAY VS NESTEA/MVP/PARTING"


I don't even think it proves they can compare with lower end GOM players, I certainly won't be taking any notice until they play against them in a competitive setting, which this clearly isn't.

Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
July 09 2012 11:58 GMT
#1334
On July 09 2012 20:57 Zerofinal wrote:
can anyone tell me about that


sHy defeated a Startale Protoss player 2-1 who most of us seem to think was Startale Ace.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 09 2012 11:58 GMT
#1335
On July 09 2012 20:57 Clafou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:57 Zerofinal wrote:
i want result



KeSPA won.

Indeed:

Kespa 1 - GSL 0. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 09 2012 11:59 GMT
#1336
On July 09 2012 20:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:54 bokchoi wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:52 seansye wrote:
This is interesting. Woongjin always chooses Soulkey as their Ace player so does that mean Soulkey > Shy which also might imply that if Soulkey is better than Shy then theres a lot of Kespa players that can seriously compete with GSL players. Just an implication though based on Shy winning and Soulkey always being choosed as Ace.


SoulKey is regarded as one of the best SC2 players. In one of his PL interviews he mentioned how he was disappointed that he played poorly at MLG. He actually never practiced ultra+ling+infestor style, but after seeing Stephano play right before his match he was inspired and excited to try it out. He said it was harder than he thought it'd be. Also, Flash looked good during that tournament so no real shame there.


That match up at MLG was actually incredible I was on the edge of my seat for virtually all of it.

Granted I was in the front row with 2 super stoked BW fans sitting next to me but still that series was by far the best of the tournament at least from what they showed us on the main stage. Flash v Stork and Flash v Bisu was very underwhelming by comparison.


I agree, but at the same time it was underwhelming and disappointing because of all the hype SoulKey has received.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 09 2012 11:59 GMT
#1337
On July 09 2012 20:57 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:53 Asha` wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:52 jellyjello wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:48 lichter wrote:
According to Khaldor the ST toss was "Code A or higher", according to the casters


Korean casters doesn't know who the players were. Gisado was speculating that the play style resembles reminds him of Ace.

I'm almost sure that it was two from ST and two from Woongjin though. So, the Terran is most likely Bomber.


It wasn't Bomber, he tweeted in rather annoyed fashion that it definitely wasn't him playing *(guess he wasn';t impressed? =p) and then turned on his stream to restream game 2 to prove it xD


LOL I hope it wasn't Bomber either. The micro looked terrible for someone like him. But there aren't that many Terrans who open up with two barracks. (MKP comes to mind, but micro is not him).

Korean chat is going nuts, btw. GSL'ers are looking pretty real bad now, especially from the eyes of BW fantatics.


Bomber was playing with one hand and tweeting "gah it's not me" with his other
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 09 2012 11:59 GMT
#1338
On July 09 2012 20:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:54 bokchoi wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:52 seansye wrote:
This is interesting. Woongjin always chooses Soulkey as their Ace player so does that mean Soulkey > Shy which also might imply that if Soulkey is better than Shy then theres a lot of Kespa players that can seriously compete with GSL players. Just an implication though based on Shy winning and Soulkey always being choosed as Ace.


SoulKey is regarded as one of the best SC2 players. In one of his PL interviews he mentioned how he was disappointed that he played poorly at MLG. He actually never practiced ultra+ling+infestor style, but after seeing Stephano play right before his match he was inspired and excited to try it out. He said it was harder than he thought it'd be. Also, Flash looked good during that tournament so no real shame there.


That match up at MLG was actually incredible I was on the edge of my seat for virtually all of it.

Granted I was in the front row with 2 super stoked BW fans sitting next to me but still that series was by far the best of the tournament at least from what they showed us on the main stage. Flash v Stork and Flash v Bisu was very underwhelming by comparison.


At the time, I already knew that the "real" finals was between Soulkey vs Flash, but that was probably obvious to most people as well.
Anyways if Soulkey is their Ace player and if Shy can do what he just did now, then I think Kespa players have a serious chance in the next SC2 only OSL.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 09 2012 11:59 GMT
#1339
On July 09 2012 20:56 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 20:54 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On July 09 2012 20:51 Gosi wrote:
Why are people whining on OGN/KeSPA when it's GOM who put all this together and they are the one streaming this. :s



Because they dumb.

As far as Kespa vs Gom, unfortunately the Gom players were far from their best. I think I said way back when this was announced, but this hasn't decided anything except that Kespa players can compete with the lower end of Gom players. Since Gom didn't put their best out (and since I only watch the "famous" BW players playing SC2 in proleague I dunno if they were best) all this does is add more fuel to the "BW PLAYERS GONNA GET YOU" vs "WAIT UNTIL THEY PLAY VS NESTEA/MVP/PARTING"


Problem is GSL players have been pretty cocky and bigheaded about it as well. They've always said that KeSPA players won't be anywhere near their level for at least a year. Hope its a wake-up call for them and they practice harder as well.


I would be willing to bet the GSL players are right...
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 09 2012 12:00 GMT
#1340
On July 09 2012 20:58 Hyperiok wrote:
I think putting out Code A players was a good choice if this will be repeated weekly. If your Code A GSL players can smash the BW players then there's no point sending out top tier Code S players. But if, and we just saw this happen, some BW players can beat your Code A players then next week you can start to send out stronger players and still make sure the games are fairly even.


It depends, the gap might be sometimes wider than it seems. Players who stay in code A, and then get in Code S are most of the time smashed really hard back to code A. A few manage to stay, or at least to perform decently (like, in a group with huge names).

It would be interesting to do this to see to which extent they're good atm. And later, if they can compete in the GSL.
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