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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:50 Black[CAT] wrote: So.....the Gom player never been in the GSL proper? If it's AcE (which is looking very probable with all the cutesy warp prism shenanigans into losing the game), then he was in Code S this season, got knocked out Ro32. | ||
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
 Only caught the last 5 mins of the final match. SHy seems pretty good at PvP though. I kept thinking about how most current SC2 pros would have charged into their opponents base during that final battle after getting ahead and trying to go for the kill. But he just sat back in the natural like "nah man I'm fine with killing all your buildings and workers, you come fight me when you're ready."I've noticed in general that a lot of the Kespa players are very patient about how they move armies in SC2, putting their opponent in a position where they're gonna take damage or get into a worse position over time. I hope we see more of that! | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:52 Bommes wrote: Why would you say that? He plays regularly in GSTL and has constantly good results. He has pretty mediocre PvP, but everyone in the GSL has good matchups against everything because they had to go through all the qualifiers and stuff. Shy just played really well  Not commenting on whether he was B team or A team but Ace played REALLY bad in those games... he doesnt seem to understand the matchup all that well. I wouldn't judge Shy by those games but that obviously means he isn't too bad. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:52 seansye wrote: This is interesting. Woongjin always chooses Soulkey as their Ace player so does that mean Soulkey > Shy which also might imply that if Soulkey is better than Shy then theres a lot of Kespa players that can seriously compete with GSL players. Just an implication though based on Shy winning and Soulkey always being choosed as Ace. SoulKey is regarded as one of the best SC2 players. In one of his PL interviews he mentioned how he was disappointed that he played poorly at MLG. He actually never practiced ultra+ling+infestor style, but after seeing Stephano play right before his match he was inspired and excited to try it out. He said it was harder than he thought it'd be. Also, Flash looked good during that tournament so no real shame there. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:50 Black[CAT] wrote: So.....the Gom player never been in the GSL proper? He has, but he hasn't been good for ~2 years. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:52 jellyjello wrote: Korean casters doesn't know who the players were. Gisado was speculating that the play style resembles reminds him of Ace. I'm almost sure that it was two from ST and two from Woongjin though. So, the Terran is most likely Bomber. LOL no way in hell was that Bomber. Bomber is much better than that. Not to mention he explicitly said in his twitter that he wasn't playing. Also, he was streaming when this was going on. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:49 PuPu wrote: Well there wasn't any really good GSL players playing, so it's pretty odd to say such thing... Well if it was ACE he is at least decent and i might as well say that sHy isn't the best of the best from the Kespa players as well , although he is pretty good . | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
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Hyperiok
England20 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:50 Holgerius wrote: Sup Kespa haters? :D The elephant is coming for ya! Please. If this was, in fact, AcE, then the last big finish he had was in March 2011 at an IEM...He's a decent Code A player but I wouldn't even put him on ST's A-Team. Also, his PvP winrate is 31%. So, yeah. | ||
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:51 Gosi wrote: Why are people whining on OGN/KeSPA when it's GOM who put all this together and they are the one streaming this. :s Because they dumb. As far as Kespa vs Gom, unfortunately the Gom players were far from their best. I think I said way back when this was announced, but this hasn't decided anything except that Kespa players can compete with the lower end of Gom players. Since Gom didn't put their best out (and since I only watch the "famous" BW players playing SC2 in proleague I dunno if they were best) all this does is add more fuel to the "BW PLAYERS GONNA GET YOU" vs "WAIT UNTIL THEY PLAY VS NESTEA/MVP/PARTING" | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:53 Black[CAT] wrote: Well, Shy isnt exactly the top player in BW...... BW doesnt really matter at this point  If you actually thought that guy would compete with an MC type player then you are kind of crazy. Not saying it is bad that they couldnt but they have not had enough time yet. | ||
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:53 mrtomjones wrote: Not commenting on whether he was B team or A team but Ace played REALLY bad in those games... he doesnt seem to understand the matchup all that well. I wouldn't judge Shy by those games but that obviously means he isn't too bad. You always look bad if you lose. Doesn't mean you are a bad player. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:52 bokchoi wrote: Well seeing as this was put on by GOM he's still looking to the pay the wrong people Heh yeah. Which reminds me - who were these casters?? And also, I never thought about that, but how good are the OGN casters in SC2 for the Proleague? Because the BW casters also have 2 years to catch up with, compared to experienced SC2 casters. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:54 IMABUNNEH wrote: Because they dumb. As far as Kespa vs Gom, unfortunately the Gom players were far from their best. I think I said way back when this was announced, but this hasn't decided anything except that Kespa players can compete with the lower end of Gom players. Since Gom didn't put their best out (and since I only watch the "famous" BW players playing SC2 in proleague I dunno if they were best) all this does is add more fuel to the "BW PLAYERS GONNA GET YOU" vs "WAIT UNTIL THEY PLAY VS NESTEA/MVP/PARTING" Problem is GSL players have been pretty cocky and bigheaded about it as well. They've always said that KeSPA players won't be anywhere near their level for at least a year. Hope its a wake-up call for them and they practice harder as well. | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:53 Black[CAT] wrote: Well, Shy isnt exactly the top player in BW...... He is one of top bw players , playing sc2 | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38198 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote: meh i expect woongjin to send a better player. You don't rate Shy? He's been very solid in his SPL games this season imo? | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On July 09 2012 20:55 Bommes wrote: You always look bad if you lose. Doesn't mean you are a bad player. A 31% win rate means he is bad at PvP. And it is very possible to look good and still lose | ||
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